Wheres your God now, he doesn't exist

How come the bible is so full of miracles and wonders but God hasn't showed his hand for so long. Either its a conspiracy or he doesn't exist.
Where are the miracles of yesteryear? The walking on water and creating many fish from five. It seems than any miracle produced lately is debunked as a fantasy pretty quickly so one can only conclude god doesn't exist.

Nobody is healed, theres no heave, imagine taking responsibility for yourself instead of invoking some punishment that happens after death if you don't except the god of the bible. Sounds less like the loving god and more like someextortionist mafia protection racket.

CAn anybody show us examples of god? Why cant god heal people to make their limbs grow back or resurrect the dead form the wars invoked by those who wage it in his name.

If this was a court of law your god would be sentecened on charges of fraud.

originally posted by: lortl
How come the bible is so full of miracles and wonders but God hasn't showed his hand for so long. Either its a conspiracy or he doesn't exist.
Where are the miracles of yesteryear? The walking on water and creating many fish from five. It seems than any miracle produced lately is debunked as a fantasy pretty quickly so one can only conclude god doesn't exist.

Nobody is healed, theres no heave, imagine taking responsibility for yourself instead of invoking some punishment that happens after death if you don't except the god of the bible. Sounds less like the loving god and more like someextortionist mafia protection racket.

CAn anybody show us examples of god? Why cant god heal people to make their limbs grow back or resurrect the dead form the wars invoked by those who wage it in his name.

If this was a court of law your god would be sentecened on charges of fraud.

technolgy is no God, but could very well perform any miracle. You might perceive it as a long time, just imagine in the eyes of the immortal and omniscient how short and irrelevant your life span is. A thousand years could very well be 2 seconds. God I'm sure has an infinite number of children pretty sure each is equal in his eyes and he just does not get in involved in internal affairs, stop being small minded

a reply to: ssenerawa

but but he only appears in the middle East for such a very short amount of time, i'm not being small minded I'd just like to see proof of your imaginary friend

a reply to: lortl

Maybe HE's had enough of the stupidity in this world...

And left us on our own, to "figure it out"

so to speak

There is no "god" as the bible describes him. So many theories but life is to short to explore all of them. I'm a big fan on the simulation hypothesis and "God" is just an AI program and mericals are glitches. Glitches that don't happen any more because they were patched.

Or something, Honestly it's so exhausting trying to figure it out.

originally posted by: lortl
a reply to: ssenerawa

but but he only appears in the middle East for such a very short amount of time, i'm not being small minded I'd just like to see proof of your imaginary friend

I never said I believed in a god.. And that was not God to who'm you're referring to. that was Jesus I think

God's mom called him to dinner, afterwards he has to brush his teeth and go to bed.

Might be a while until we see him again.

a reply to: lortl

Has it only just dawned on you that the patriarchal god was nothing but a threat to all men to obey the priests and top men who control society?

Miracles have only ever happened in remote places and in very remote times - people just need to start to think for themselves instead of swallowing religion and muttering religious twoddle every time something ghastly happens to them. No its not some God's will, its life.

If you look at the stars in the universe and accept the teaching that some God created all of that - man must appear like some minute speck seen through some God's microscope when that God decides to look at the outer edge of our galaxy.
People should open their eyes and not their egos which they give far too much credit to when concerning the whole concept of Gods and their interests.

originally posted by: Shiloh7
a reply to: lortl

Has it only just dawned on you that the patriarchal god was nothing but a threat to all men to obey the priests and top men who control society?

Miracles have only ever happened in remote places and in very remote times - people just need to start to think for themselves instead of swallowing religion and muttering religious twoddle every time something ghastly happens to them. No its not some God's will, its life.

If you look at the stars in the universe and accept the teaching that some God created all of that - man must appear like some minute speck seen through some God's microscope when that God decides to look at the outer edge of our galaxy.
People should open their eyes and not their egos which they give far too much credit to when concerning the whole concept of Gods and their interests.

Why couldn't 'god' be aware of every solar system at once? That's only trivially more intelligent than we are.. just bigger computation power which we know is possible.

a reply to: lortl

The gods of old were almost tangible to our ancestors. Faces, personalities, origin stories, mythos the whole shebang. Then along comes the hebrew theology, many aspects of one god. And of course the old testament god is almost a 180 from the new testament.

Perhaps god is taking a break...its been a long creation.

Perhaps god has been kicked out of the group.

Perhaps god has other things to do than continually impress us.

Perhaps god lives among us

Perhaps we are all dreaming

Or going to my favourite quote...

Tyler Durden: # damnation, man! # redemption! We are God's unwanted children? So be it!

a reply to: lortl

People are always being healed (including having limbs growing back, the blind seeing, the lame walking and people being raised from the dead, occasionally). It hasn't stopped.

The Catholic Church has hundreds of saints and each one of them has to have done verified miracles. The Church investigates them very heavily before declaring them saints.

Also, which wars, exactly, are being waged in his name?

originally posted by: lortl
How come the bible is so full of miracles and wonders but God hasn't showed his hand for so long. Either its a conspiracy or he doesn't exist.
Where are the miracles of yesteryear? The walking on water and creating many fish from five. It seems than any miracle produced lately is debunked as a fantasy pretty quickly so one can only conclude god doesn't exist.

Nobody is healed, theres no heave, imagine taking responsibility for yourself instead of invoking some punishment that happens after death if you don't except the god of the bible. Sounds less like the loving god and more like someextortionist mafia protection racket.

CAn anybody show us examples of god? Why cant god heal people to make their limbs grow back or resurrect the dead form the wars invoked by those who wage it in his name.

If this was a court of law your god would be sentecened on charges of fraud.

If you read revelation. You will find out that it is going to get a lot worse. And Guess who is going to be blamed. Yeah God.

We are going to blame God and religion for all the crap we do. Just like we blame the elit for all the crap we do for them.

We blame Our masters for making us do Things that turn out to be shiiit. Ask Your self, why do you fallow man made laws and blame God and religion?

God said: You can only fallow one master. Which one do you fallow?

a reply to: lortl

Miracles are happening everywhere, they aren't worthy of the nightly news.

Look into Todd White and Heidi Baker to name a couple.

a reply to: RedDragon

Perhaps instead of thinking about the universe its better to think about all the separate living things existing on this planet today? That will give you the idea that unless you are talking about something totally non human, purely an energy force that absorbs information and makes non moral decisions to allow evolution to carry on and keep life alive, you are not thinking about a father god who busies his time looking into each and every human head - as the religious would have you believe.

Religion is the velvet glove as opposed to war to control people -brainwash them as kinds into believing certain rules and then tell them they are being spied on in their own heads - clever but it falls down when we are told we were made in his image and our understanding of what image means. Even God is pictured as an old man with a beard and wrinkly skin.

Listen to it! listen to it! may ears bleed and babes cry!.

Blooming God...If we had no God no song.....why! why God why?.

a reply to: lortl

Perhaps the God referenced in the bible is not the true Divine Source Of Creation, but an imposter who has, along with the founders of religion and those in power, thoroughly deceived us?

Why don't you talk to God for a while first. You might find the answers you are looking for.

a reply to: lortl
God bowed out of interfering in our existance long ago because we are not very nice to each other. Needless to say this occurred long ago and the only "proof" is a story in a religious book.

Classic conspiracy stuff.

In addition when very bad things happen to good people there is the excuse "no one knows Gods purpose". Yet another cop out. Needless to say I do not believe in God but should he magically appear one day I would have nothing but utter contemt for him/her for this reason : Many years ago a child was playing in the sand dunes. The sand dune collapsed and the child died of suffocation. Now that is a horrible way to suffocate as your lungs fill up with sand. The location was unobserved by anybody so God could have intervened and saved the child and nobody would know. Any being with such power that God supposedly has who allows a child in those circumstances to die the way they did as part of some "grand plan" deserves nothing but utter contempt. SO even if God appeared it would two fingers to him/her.

originally posted by: yorkshirelad
a reply to: lortl
God bowed out of interfering in our existance long ago because we are not very nice to each other. Needless to say this occurred long ago and the only "proof" is a story in a religious book.

Classic conspiracy stuff.

In addition when very bad things happen to good people there is the excuse "no one knows Gods purpose". Yet another cop out. Needless to say I do not believe in God but should he magically appear one day I would have nothing but utter contemt for him/her for this reason : Many years ago a child was playing in the sand dunes. The sand dune collapsed and the child died of suffocation. Now that is a horrible way to suffocate as your lungs fill up with sand. The location was unobserved by anybody so God could have intervened and saved the child and nobody would know. Any being with such power that God supposedly has who allows a child in those circumstances to die the way they did as part of some "grand plan" deserves nothing but utter contempt. SO even if God appeared it would two fingers to him/her.

So, you don't like that humans die and therefore God is evil.

a reply to: lortl
What if the perceived GODS of mankind's (souls) is AN IS-BE? that can Create other IS-BE? That then generate this perceived reality for ETERNAL IS-BE to be manifested and or captured within contained inside humanoid biological Temporary form. And so YOU ARE NOT REALLY WHERE OR WHAT YOU PERCEIVE YOU ARE AS AN IS-BE w/ potential mind wipe, so you forget your past and seemingly don't Learn from past mistakes made. Making you your higher IS-BE self convinced your human only. Perceiving ONLY the material visible world, forgetting your ETERNAL CONNECTIONS. Making you potentially easier to handle and or be managed by OTHER IS-BE in different form, as you only think in human terms. Not realizing the GOD figure you speak of may be closer to you THEN YOU REMEMBER...
NAMASTE*******