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Published on Oct 14, 2013 The name Vatican dates back to long time before Christianity occurred, back to the Etruscan people who lived there from the 8th to the 5th century B.C. (c. 450 B.C.). Vaticanus was one of the many deities the Etruscans worshiped, and his temple was built on Vaticanum, today more common known as Vatican Hill and headquarter of the Roman Catholic Church Majority of the Vatican Hill was once a large ancient pagan necropolis (large cemetery). The word necropolis is derived from Greek nekropolis, literally meaning "city of the dead". The Vatican is as the most complete melting pot of paganism hence the most hypocritical and blaspheme place on Earth. The Jesuit Order, in short called Jesuits, is the militant and govern section and makes Vatican also the most powerful institution and top controller of secret societies, international banking system, imperialistic and propaganda justified
Vatican Secret Access Documentary shows the power of the Vatican church and its rise to world domination. This is a secular documentary and it clearly demonstrates that this power is fulfilling bible prophecy. Soon to control the NWO
originally posted by: DISRAELI
a reply to: Belcastro
Martin Luther missed one crucial point here; the Harlot rests on the support of the Beast, the same Beast which later attacks her.
Therefore no entity can be both at the same time. He should have stuck to one theory or the other.
no o the vatican is the harlot and the POPE is the antichrist
originally posted by: DISRAELI
a reply to: Belcastro
My point being that the "Beast" is the same ch13 figure who is usually identified as "antichrist" (someone will come in and point out that Revelation doesn't use the word).
So the Vatican cannot be both the Harlot and the antichrist, because these are two different things. One or the other (or neither), not both.
originally posted by: Belcastro
no o the vatican is the harlot and the POPE is the antichrist
originally posted by: DISRAELI
originally posted by: Belcastro
no o the vatican is the harlot and the POPE is the antichrist
Remember. still, that the antichrist is also the Beast (see ch13).
So you are positing that
a) At the beginning of ch17 the Vatican rests on the support of the Pope.
b) At rhe end of ch17 the Pope and the ten kings, between them, turn against and destroy the Vatican.
I still think that the whole picture makes more sense if the antichrist/Beast is identified as a political entity.
The religious entity rests on the support of that, and is later destroyed by it.
i only bring it up because i had never made the connection of the beast with the anti christ, to me those are two separate things. the beast is the military power of the united nations in my eyes.
originally posted by: DISRAELI
a reply to: Belcastro
I concede that as one possibility.
I just don't see the necessity of bringing in "antichrist" at the same time.
I think Martin Luther's enthusiasm in hostility succeeded in muddying up the picture. He should have stuck with "Harlot".
originally posted by: DISRAELI
a reply to: Belcastro
If you look over ch13, it describes two Beasts, one from the sea and one from the land. Most people regard one or the other as the antichrist. The second one is the spokesman for the first, and when they are thrown into the fire later they are called "the Beast and the false prophet". To me the picture makes most sense on the assumption that the first is a political state (modelled on the beasts from the sea in Daniel), and the second is the leader and mouthpiece of the same state. The Nazi state and Adolf Hitler would make a good analogy.
The Harlot, I believe, rests on the support of this political structure until it turns against her.
VICARIUS is used as "deputy". That is why many Church of England ministers are called Vicars.