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originally posted by: AdmireTheDistance
originally posted by: BO XIAN
Nice dodge about JPL's horrific dark occult beginnings and leadership.
What "horrific dark occult beginnings" would those be?
originally posted by: TheKnightofDoom
a reply to: BO XIAN
35 years+ of writing on the internet can you explain this?.
originally posted by: pl3bscheese
a reply to: In4ormant
I prefer both. He deserves it by now. If he needs to learn his lessons the hard way, so be it. I'll apply the pressure.
originally posted by: pl3bscheese
a reply to: In4ormant
To be called out for pushing nonsense on the forums, then whining like a little bitch when people present their counter arguments.
It's pathetic.
originally posted by: BO XIAN
a reply to: dragonridr
THAT assumption
PRESUMES
that you KNOW for CERTAIN
EVERYTHING there is to know
about opening doorways into other dimensions.
Color me more than slightly skeptical.
. . . which . . . on reflection . . . is the typical stance of the Religion of Scientism . . . particularly when confronted with even a wild haired idea that jangles their lofty omniscience and/or sensibilities.
originally posted by: BO XIAN
a reply to: UnBreakable
Perhaps your detector is broken.
originally posted by: UnBreakable
originally posted by: BO XIAN
a reply to: UnBreakable
Perhaps your detector is broken.
Nope, my detector works fine. It's a bs detector and has never failed me. As for going through a green stoplight, I don't have faith that the other guy will stop at red. I have the accident reports to prove it.
originally posted by: UnBreakable
originally posted by: BO XIAN
a reply to: UnBreakable
Perhaps your detector is broken.
Nope, my detector works fine. It's a bs detector and has never failed me. As for going through a green stoplight, I don't have faith that the other guy will stop at red. I have the accident reports to prove it.
originally posted by: TzarChasm
originally posted by: UnBreakable
originally posted by: BO XIAN
a reply to: UnBreakable
Perhaps your detector is broken.
Nope, my detector works fine. It's a bs detector and has never failed me. As for going through a green stoplight, I don't have faith that the other guy will stop at red. I have the accident reports to prove it.
you dont happen to have a spare, do you? maybe you could loan one to bo xian for a while. seems his might be on the fritz.
I'm a Physicist at CERN
6. The video AS PRESENTED is plausible in at least some respects. My own tendency is to take things at face value until PROVEN otherwise--while avoiding being so open minded that my brains fall out.
7. OF COURSE, it could be a hoax; a delusion of grandeur; a game by a bright young adult etc. etc. etc.
8. AND, it MAY WELL BE EXACTLY AS STATED.
originally posted by: AdmireTheDistance
originally posted by: BO XIAN
Nice dodge about JPL's horrific dark occult beginnings and leadership.
What "horrific dark occult beginnings" would those be?
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But very few people are aware of Marvel Whiteside Parsons (a.k.a Jack Parsons), co-founder of Jet Propulsion Laboratories. Parsons made major contributions to rocket development, particularly in the area of solid fuel propellant. The solid motors on the Space Shuttle and the motors in the Minuteman missile were based on the solid propellant technology that he invented. He was a founding member of Aerojet Corporation, and he even has a crater on the dark side of the moon named after him. So why isn’t he as celebrated as the other founding fathers of spaceflight? And what was that about the occult?
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Space Safety » Engineering » Rocket Design » Jack Parsons and the Occult Roots of JPL
Almost everyone in the fields of space and aeronautical engineering are aware of the names of Konstantin Tsiolkovsky, Robert Goddard, and Werner Von Braun. These men undoubtedly laid the groundwork in rocket development which allowed mankind to leave the cradle of Earth, and take our first small steps into the cosmos.
Jack Parsons (Credits: JPL).
Jack Parsons (Credits: JPL).
But very few people are aware of Marvel Whiteside Parsons (a.k.a Jack Parsons), co-founder of Jet Propulsion Laboratories. Parsons made major contributions to rocket development, particularly in the area of solid fuel propellant. The solid motors on the Space Shuttle and the motors in the Minuteman missile were based on the solid propellant technology that he invented. He was a founding member of Aerojet Corporation, and he even has a crater on the dark side of the moon named after him. So why isn’t he as celebrated as the other founding fathers of spaceflight? And what was that about the occult?
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Early Years
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Parsons was born in Pasadena, in 1914, to a wealthy but troubled family. His father, Marvel Senior, walked out when his son was young, after having an affair with another woman, leaving young Marvel Junior in the charge of his doting mother, Ruth. His mother promptly filed for divorce, and began referring to her son, as “John,” which is the name he is referred to by the scientific community who worked with him later in life. As he grew older, other family members and close friends would refer to him as “Jack,” as would his occult buddies in his later years.
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The Influence Of
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In 1939 Parsons became acquainted with the works of English occultist Aleister Crowley who referred to himself as “The Great Beast 666,” and was referred to by the English media as the “wickedest man in the world.”
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Crowley was the founder of the Thelemic religion whose practitioners lived by the motto “do what thou wilt.” He had previously enjoyed some success as a mountaineer, having scaled K2 and Kanchenjunga, the 2nd and 3rd highest mountains in the world, respectively. During the Kanchenjunga expedition in 1905, Crowley’s fellow mountaineers fell victim to an avalanche. They called to Crowley for help, and rather than assist his dying comrades he did what any good Englishman would do…he put his feet up, made a cup of tea. He then sat and watched them die on the mountain, later claiming that he had “no sympathy” for his chums.
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Parsons pursued his occult interests and scientific interests with equal intensity. He purchased a large house on South Orange Grove Avenue, Pasadena, and created a commune, inviting actors, actresses, poets, and writers (including sci-fi master Robert Heinlein and ultimately, sci-fi minor L. Ron Hubbard) to participate in his wild parties. He nicknamed the house “The Parsonage.” The police were frequent visitors to The Parsonage, receiving reports of naked pregnant women dancing through fire in the garden, loud music, and consumption of illegal substances. Parsons always greeted them at the door and assured the officers that he was a respectable Cal Tech scientist, and therefore they had no cause for alarm, so they duly left him and his entourage in peace.
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During the course of the war, the powers that be became worried about Jack’s reputation as a hedonist, and convinced him to sell his shares of Aerojet. Parsons took the pay-off, and used the money to devote his time to the fulfillment of his spiritual life, which largely involved more parties, sex, and other debauchery. Also before the war was over, Parsons had begun an affair with Sara “Betty” Northrup, the half-sister of wife, Helen. Helen decided to repay the favor by running off with O.T.O. head Wilfred Smith.
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The U.S. Air Force advised the FBI that the USAF had been monitoring Parsons and his relationship with Crowley, and had observed that: “A religious cult, believed to advocate sexual perversion, was organized at subject’s home at 1003 South Orange Grove Avenue, Pasadena, California, which has been reported subversive…” Parsons lost all privileges with regards to security clearance.
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In any case, the works of Parsons were systematically expunged from the academic papers stored at Cal Tech. At first, he became a footnote in the technical papers, and as time progressed, the footnotes disappeared also.
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He was also a Satanic occultist who worked with Aleister Crowley (“The Beast”) and Ron L. Hubbard (Scientology) in Satanic rituals. Jack Parson’s made it a ritual before every test flight of his rocket’s to say a prayer to his “god” Pan (in reality Satan)…
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“Jack Parsons, along with Ron L. Hubbard, carried out a highly satanic ritual in 1946 “…known as the “Babalon [sic] Working, a ceremony in which the “whore of Babylon” was invoked to attract an “elemental” with whom Parsons could conceive a “moonchild” to usher in a new age. the ceremony involved annointing objects with menstrual blood, invoking spells and incantations, and Parsons’ act of masturbating (using his “magic wand”).
originally posted by: BO XIAN
a reply to: elysiumfire
I gather you have a very difficult time distinguishing between notes quoting the speaker on the youtube vs the OP poster.
Your assertions might be less embarrassing if you could learn to distinguish between those two sorts of things.