Hundreds join Black Lives Matter march through London

a reply to: paraphi

To be honest, there are bigger issues that concern black people's lives, than out-of-control police and out-of-control gun crime, in an advanced country that needs to get a grip.

Such as?

Now there's a sentence that wants to have it's cake and eat it too

a reply to: EvillerBob

Oddly enough, most comments I've seen agree that there is an issue to be addressed, they just wonder why those issues are being ignored in favour of a group who's goals seem centered around destroying any positive relationships with wider communities.

They're destroying an otherwise positive relationship with the wider communities? Things would be OK if only they would stop?

:-)

a reply to: Jonjonj

I mean comparing BLM to Brexit? WTF dude?

Did I compare them?

originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
Such as?

Lost with what you mean. Perhaps out can contribute rather than picking on what other posters say.

As per the OP. Do you think that the American movement BLM, which is focussed on the propensity of black Americans to be shot by US police, has any relevance to the UK. In the UK it is very rare that the police shoot anyone, race relations are a bit less polarised, police are not routinely murdered and gun violence is rare.

BLM is a US thing and has no relevance to the UK.

a reply to: paraphi

Perhaps out can contribute rather than picking on what other posters say.

Wasn't picking on you - you were making my point for me :-)

But forget about that - how about the such as? What are those bigger issues?

I don't actually care that you don't care about this - what I don't understand is why you care about what your fellow countrymen care about?

This is what I mean about Nationalism. I get it - human nature and all that. Just, sometimes - it's completely irrational and controlling. If you believe in freedom (same as our OP) - what difference does it make to you if people care about things that aren't English - and that you don't care about?

Was this planned before the Dallas shooting tragedy?

If it was in response to it then that's called a celebration.

a reply to: Spiramirabilis

Same as we will all feel Brexit

Yep, you did.

Not the same at all.

originally posted by: Now2016


English Cop at an Armed Robbery: "Ello Ello Ello, what ave we got ear then?"

I believe you may be mistaking English Cops for Dick Van Dyke in Mary Poppins.

What the hell?

The police who carry guns in this country are usually specialist firearms units, some guards for government buildings in London and maybe CID (plainclothes detectives) if they think they need them.

Civilian firearm ownership isn't that common. You can own guns of course, but usually only farmers do. The paperwork and rings you have to jump through are prohibitively restrictive.

My uncle own a Lee Enfield Rifle. It has to be kept locked at an army base, he is only allowed to purchase about 50 rounds of ammo a year for it, and has to notify the home office 2 weeks in advance if he intends to "visit" his rifle and fire it.

Just not worth the effort really. Shame I think.

Of course the criminals always seem to end up with guns.

I really don't see why this march is happening, or even why the organisation is even in the country to begin with. Absolutely ridiculous

originally posted by: Ohanka

My uncle own a Lee Enfield Rifle. It has to be kept locked at an army base, he is only allowed to purchase about 50 rounds of ammo a year for it, and has to notify the home office 2 weeks in advance if he intends to "visit" his rifle and fire it.

I don't know what country you're talking about but it's not the UK. Or your uncle is pulling your leg. Or there's something else really weird going on with that particular rifle.

I own a Lee Enfield rifle. I also own AR15s, lever action rifles, a long-barrelled .44 revolver, and a lil' Mossy 500 that needs some TLC because it's stopped ejecting properly.

All of them (legally) live in the gun cabinet under my stairs, and I can buy thousands of rounds of ammunition a month if I wanted to. I - and every other club member, in fact - even have keys to the range so we can rock up at any time (between 0900 and about 2000, to keep the locals happy) without notice.

Oh, and out of the hundreds of people in my club, there's only probably a handful of farmers. Most of us are just plain old middle class townfolk.

a reply to: crazyewok

Erm.....why?

Because people believe everything they read on the 'internets', and see's on their tele's.

Hey don't feel bad.

Canada has BLM chapter too.

IDIOCRASY highly contagious, and no known cure.

Slavery was a transatlantic issue.,whose ramifications last on today


But hey who cares as long aim alright ey?
People itch bad memories are destined to repeat it

Just to show how easy it is to manipulate people and spread ignorance through the hive mind

a reply to: woodwardjnr

Bascially because Lincoln was shot before he could do this.

For much of his career, Lincoln believed that colonization—or the idea that a majority of the African-American population should leave the United States and settle in Africa or Central America—was the best way to confront the problem of slavery. His two great political heroes, Henry Clay and Thomas Jefferson, had both favored colonization; both were slave owners who took issue with aspects of slavery but saw no way that blacks and whites could live together peaceably. Lincoln first publicly advocated for colonization in 1852, and in 1854 said that his first instinct would be “to free all the slaves, and send them to Liberia” (the African state founded by the American Colonization Society in 1821).

www.history.com...

The short answer is that Lincoln had long favored the "colonization" option, though as a voluntary option rather than a mandated removal. Moreover, his issuance of the Emancipation Proclamation on Jan. 1, 1863, rendered even that voluntary option effectively dead -- and since that was more than two years before the end of the war on April 9, 1865, his assassination didn’t stop it from happening. Lincoln never spoke publicly of colonization after issuing the proclamation, and apparently did little behind the scenes to advance the idea after that date, focusing instead on creating a post-war society that included both blacks and whites.

Did Abraham Lincoln plan to send ex-slaves to Central America after the Civil War? - FALSE -Politifact

One of the key elements of the proclamation was that it opened the door to military service for freed slaves. Cornelius noted that Mark Neely, in the Abraham Lincoln Encyclopedia, published in 1982, wrote that "when Lincoln accepted freedmen as soldiers on Jan. 1, 1863, he guaranteed a biracial future for the country, because no president could ask a man to fight for his country and then tell him it was no longer his country."

a reply to: Gryphon66

I will take HISTORY.com over POLITICAL 'fact' any day of the week, and twice on sundays.

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Gryphon66

I will take HISTORY.com over POLITICAL 'fact' any day of the week, and twice on sundays.

Yes, history.com, the same group that publishes information on Ancient Aliens.

Read the facts, Neo, if you wish to Deny Ignorance.

a reply to: Gryphon66

Well ATS talks about Ancient Aliens all the time, and came up with that slogan.

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Gryphon66

Well ATS talks about Ancient Aliens all the time, and came up with that slogan.

Wrong forum.

a reply to: crazyewok

well I cant say why they are there... but in the states Several folks that are considered hacks and frauds have been beating that social programming drum for some time.

I used to laugh at it... but... we have all these 24 hour news channels blasting all cops are racist and killing black people by the truck load... add in a poor education (in some cases) and its easy to get caught in the hype.

I hate to say it but its the only thing I can grasp to understand this... the numbers just dont jive with the narrative being pushed.

Anyways... sorry you guys have this starting there...