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posted on Jul, 8 2016 @ 04:53 PM
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originally posted by: projectvxn

originally posted by: iTruthSeeker

originally posted by: sg1642
Some questions.

Any details on the weapon and caliber used? What sighting system did he use?

What ammunition was he using to make that much sparking?

Any details about this guys military service and what his role was? What were his marksmanship skills like?

How long did the initial engagement last?

What kind of distances was he firing at?

Why were witnesses reporting several shooters?

For one man to take down 10 plus trained men single handed and not take out half the peaceful protesters in the crossfire and behind his targets. Well that is an achievement. Or bull#. You decide.



The sparks were probably from using incendiary ammo.


iTruthSeeker


Copper and lead hitting concrete at several hundred feet per second will spark. No incendiaries needed.


I have never seen regular fmj (copper lead) spark on hard objects. Lots of steel plate shooting on youtube and they do not spark, at least no showers of sparks.


iTruthSeeker




posted on Jul, 8 2016 @ 04:57 PM
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originally posted by: iTruthSeeker

originally posted by: projectvxn

originally posted by: iTruthSeeker

originally posted by: sg1642
Some questions.

Any details on the weapon and caliber used? What sighting system did he use?

What ammunition was he using to make that much sparking?

Any details about this guys military service and what his role was? What were his marksmanship skills like?

How long did the initial engagement last?

What kind of distances was he firing at?

Why were witnesses reporting several shooters?

For one man to take down 10 plus trained men single handed and not take out half the peaceful protesters in the crossfire and behind his targets. Well that is an achievement. Or bull#. You decide.



The sparks were probably from using incendiary ammo.


iTruthSeeker


Copper and lead hitting concrete at several hundred feet per second will spark. No incendiaries needed.


I have never seen regular fmj (copper lead) spark on hard objects. Lots of steel plate shooting on youtube and they do not spark, at least no showers of sparks.


iTruthSeeker
that looks more like some kind of incendiary buck shot it's strange.



posted on Jul, 8 2016 @ 04:58 PM
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originally posted by: sg1642

originally posted by: iTruthSeeker

originally posted by: projectvxn

originally posted by: iTruthSeeker

originally posted by: sg1642
Some questions.

Any details on the weapon and caliber used? What sighting system did he use?

What ammunition was he using to make that much sparking?

Any details about this guys military service and what his role was? What were his marksmanship skills like?

How long did the initial engagement last?

What kind of distances was he firing at?

Why were witnesses reporting several shooters?

For one man to take down 10 plus trained men single handed and not take out half the peaceful protesters in the crossfire and behind his targets. Well that is an achievement. Or bull#. You decide.



The sparks were probably from using incendiary ammo.


iTruthSeeker


Copper and lead hitting concrete at several hundred feet per second will spark. No incendiaries needed.


I have never seen regular fmj (copper lead) spark on hard objects. Lots of steel plate shooting on youtube and they do not spark, at least no showers of sparks.


iTruthSeeker
that looks more like some kind of incendiary buck shot it's strange.


Yea or some steel core but either way it is strange.


iTruthSeeker



posted on Jul, 8 2016 @ 05:02 PM
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originally posted by: texasgirl

originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: texasgirl
So now my local news is reporting they found some journals in Micah Johnson ' s house and are going through them. Some member here predicted this!


For effs sake...Why do these whacko's always keep journals?????? Anyone?


Yeah, I find it a little weird. I don't keep a journal and neither do my friends. Or their husbands, for that matter.


You're probably not mentally bent enough to assault a bunch of cops either, are you?

Comparing your mindset to somebody willing to do that is apples and oranges.



posted on Jul, 8 2016 @ 05:06 PM
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a reply to: iTruthSeeker

Rounds kick up what look like sparks from both concrete and dirt when they impact sometimes, it is the contents of the round and what it is hitting reacting to the sudden impact by vaporizing and such.

The low light situation accentuates the phenomenon that happens occasionally, like when you hit a rock or concrete with a hammer and you get the occasional spark.

Heck, I've even seen sparks fly from throwing a rock at night hitting something hard when it is low light or dark.

Bullets travel pretty fast and release a lot of force against objects and create what look like sparks when they stop suddenly.



posted on Jul, 8 2016 @ 05:09 PM
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I have kept journals all my life, but would never harm anyone or myself. So let's not start equating journaling with madness, shall we? Though I will concede, there is a high (anecdotal at least) correlation seemingly between these sorts of actors and the action of keeping journals. I expect there are many more perfectly sane people who journal than otherwise, though.

All I can say about this is... it is heartbreaking to see this happening. To those law enforcement officers - and I know there are some on ATS - who risk their lives to protect and serve, thank-you. And this is an unmitigated tragedy.

By the same token, those who do profile and respond with overwhelming force under unwarranted circumstances or engage in brutality... while I am of the belief they are the minority... their victims are also an unmitigated tragedy, and saying that about both events is not mutually exclusive.

We must remember that both events are horrific (unless it is found that this was simply not the case in the latter... this time... but the point is it happens) and not be further divided and moved to enmity between groups and peoples even more than is already the case in this country. This is a time for unity, and blanket rejection of ALL such acts of violence driven by fear, racism, hatred, or as the case may be in this case, all of the above coupled with outright madness.

What else can I say? I love everyone, I wish peace on everyone here and who might see this. That's all I've got.

Peace.



posted on Jul, 8 2016 @ 05:11 PM
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posted on Jul, 8 2016 @ 05:11 PM
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Seriously now, a journal is strange or a red flag? I don't understand how this has much meaning. Plenty of people have journals, that's almost what a blog is to most people and there are tens of millions online. I bet you DO know people who keep journals, but perhaps they find no reason to let you know. That would make more sense. Perhaps a sign of introversion, but nothing more.



posted on Jul, 8 2016 @ 05:17 PM
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originally posted by: Shamrock6

originally posted by: texasgirl

originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: texasgirl
So now my local news is reporting they found some journals in Micah Johnson ' s house and are going through them. Some member here predicted this!


For effs sake...Why do these whacko's always keep journals?????? Anyone?


Yeah, I find it a little weird. I don't keep a journal and neither do my friends. Or their husbands, for that matter.


You're probably not mentally bent enough to assault a bunch of cops either, are you?

Comparing your mindset to somebody willing to do that is apples and oranges.


Yes, that's a good point.



posted on Jul, 8 2016 @ 05:21 PM
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a reply to: iTruthSeeker

Really never?


There's a reason NV fire department issued warnings to shooters about the dry conditions. Even bullets skipping off rocks can cause sparks. Regular bullets.



posted on Jul, 8 2016 @ 05:25 PM
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I guess they will better know if there really was more than one shooter or not based on the weapons recovered compared to the bullets recovered? And bullet holes.



posted on Jul, 8 2016 @ 05:27 PM
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originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: GoShredAK




like why is it always multiple shooters at first, but lone gunman by the next day?


First time I took fire it was confusing and very frightening. It wasn't even sniper fire either.

You learn to get use to it and get a handle on the situation, but the first moments and sometimes the first hours of a situation like this can bring about all kinds of different information that proves to be false later on.


That makes sense but it still seems strange to me that the media would report multiple shooters if they weren't totally sure.



posted on Jul, 8 2016 @ 05:27 PM
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duplicate


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posted on Jul, 8 2016 @ 05:27 PM
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posted on Jul, 8 2016 @ 05:27 PM
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sorry computer froze up and caused a multi post.......

disregard..

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posted on Jul, 8 2016 @ 05:28 PM
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originally posted by: kosmicjack
I guess they will better know if there really was more than one shooter or not based on the weapons recovered compared to the bullets recovered? And bullet holes.


I guess I still wont believe the official story until Dallas Chief Brown says it was one shooter. But he was missing from the latest press conference.



posted on Jul, 8 2016 @ 05:28 PM
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a reply to: MyHappyDogShiner

Yes, any metal fragment will burn up if the force of impact is high enough, especially if impacting on something like concrete that will have stuf like flint in it. flint as in lighter flintstone flint. I have even had sparks from so-called EX tools like bronze etc. I don't remember seeing a shower of sparks though, i will talk this over with a freind who is a weapons expert, LOL that will be in a few weeks so don't hold your breath....



posted on Jul, 8 2016 @ 05:31 PM
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originally posted by: MyHappyDogShiner
a reply to: iTruthSeeker

Rounds kick up what look like sparks from both concrete and dirt when they impact sometimes, it is the contents of the round and what it is hitting reacting to the sudden impact by vaporizing and such.

The low light situation accentuates the phenomenon that happens occasionally, like when you hit a rock or concrete with a hammer and you get the occasional spark.

Heck, I've even seen sparks fly from throwing a rock at night hitting something hard when it is low light or dark.

Bullets travel pretty fast and release a lot of force against objects and create what look like sparks when they stop suddenly.


The sparks I saw were something more than that though. dang roman candle sparks or something.


iTruthSeeker



posted on Jul, 8 2016 @ 05:35 PM
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Can anyone actually confirm it was only one person shooting? I thought people were seeing several shooters.



posted on Jul, 8 2016 @ 05:36 PM
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Just Confirmed:

Major of Dallas live on Fox News:

Narrowed down to LONE GUNMAN involved but mentioned the ruling out of co-conspirators? Also mentioned 20 individuals with weapons and vests in the beginning then scattered everywhere? Did anyone else hear that right?



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