Second, FEMA funds a lot of those local hurricane forecasting centers, without them you would not know that the hurricane existed. Posted by
Incorrect. The National Hurricane Center, located in Miami Florida, is funded and administered by the National Oceanographic and Atmospheric
Administration (NOAA). NOAA is a completely different and unconnected federal agency totally independent of FEMA. If you disagree, throw down some
First, FEMA acted after that hurricane to prevent future flooding. Posted by Jarrod
As someone who works in the environmental geology area, and also is part of our local EOC, I know a bit about what FEMA does in emergencies... for the
most part, this "acting to prevent future flooding" was simply to pay off those who lost property, buy out thier property, and declare it within a
flood zone, thereby rendering it useless for future construction. Essentially, FEMA acted like a giant insurance agency (and not a very well run one
Hurricane Andrew was one of the most expensive hurricanes amounting in $24 billion. Posted by Jarrod
I refer you to my comment about the FEMA insurance agency above.
The forecasters are not always right and this came very unexpectedly to the people of South Florida. Posted by Jarrod
I never claimed that FEMA was a weather forcasting agency. Indeed, I pointed out the fact that NOAA was the forecasting agency in this case (which you
were incorrect about).
It was a big enough Natural disaster to declare martial law, so according to conspirator websites including this one(not meant to offend you
readers), it should have taken over. Posted by Jarrod
My point exactly. Hello, Andrew was a DISASTER, just what FEMA is SUPPOSED
to be able to handle. It failed this mission miserably! It took over
a week (!) to respond in ANY way! When it did respond, it was wholly ineffectual! But, they have such a huge budget, where is that money going, if
they dont have proper resources in place to respond to a hurricane? (The $64 question!)
Part of the Organization is to stop the disaster before they take place. Posted by Jarrod
Part of the organization exists to prepare disasters so as to give itself a reason to continue to exist... but then, thats just us paranoids
Let me share a bit of information with you... I am an environmental geologist, and I work for a municipal government. I am also part of the local EOC
(emergency operations command), and a standin backup for our HAZMAT department. As part of the EOC, I do work on occassion directly with FEMA.
I can say with complete honesty, due to my direct experience with them, that FEMA, as relates to direct support and response to a true disaster
situation, is wholly ineffective. The best that I can say is that FEMA has deep pockets, and on occassion will unload a good deal of cash on us for
our LOCAL agencies to deal with emergencies (have yet to see any actual direct support however).
Case in point: Our area has suffered 3 very significant flood events in the past couple of decades. I was part of the EOC during the last event. Our
EOC and emergency services bore 100% of the brunt of emergency responses. Because the flooding was so wide spread, we had no way to call on resources
from surrounding areas, as most of the smaller surrounding municipalities were looking to us for help.
Where was FEMA? Well, they did
show up, after the show was over. In the guise of flood insurance agents.
Advising on building codes and flood plain management
I am VERY familiar with the FEMA flood mapping program and the National Flood Insurance Program (NFIP). For the NFIP, well, its a good buy in
insurance, I'll admit that... but it's freaking insurance!!!!!
I dont call that a comprehensive disaster response plan.
As for the FEMA flood mapping program (I have a complete FEMA flood map set for our county in my office), well.... I can take any flood map panel at
random, pull out the correct USGS topo quad and point out a dozen errors in the flood plains in about 30 seconds... I am NOT impressed with the
accuracy of the FEMA flood panels.
teaching people how to get through a disaster...
Have yet to see that in my town...
helping equip local and state emergency preparedness...
Our EOC and emergency services are very well equipped, at our own expense, and have NEVER had assistance from FEMA.
coordinating the federal response to a disaster...
Again, have yet to see this happen in our town...
making disaster assistance available to states, communities, businesses and individuals...
OK, I will say this is something I HAVE seen FEMA do... but hey, isnt that basically pulling up an armored car at a disaster site and handing out
money (essentially)? We are back to the great federal insurance agency again...
training emergency managers...
Actually, most of our EOC is retired military, and have come up with our emergency procedures (pretty damn good ones I might add) from scratch. Again,
no such support ever seen in our town from FEMA.
supporting the nation's fire service...
Our Fire Chief and HAZMAT Captain would laugh at this!
the national flood and crime insurance programs...
National insurance agency again...
Also you here that FEMA is building underground bunkers. They do this for their own protection. Posted by Jarrod
Ah, you got something right! You fail to mention about the other 300 million civilians who are going to die screaming on the surface. Oh thats right,
there NEVER WERE any provisions for them...
PLEASE dont tell me that these previously unknown bunkers are there for the people! At BEST, they may hold a couple hundred thousand.... so the
privaledged and wealthy few will get to survive... the rest of us? Well, Im sure the privaledged and wealthy have color TVs and padded leather sofas
in thier underground bunkers from which they can enjoy our torment and death.
like an asteroid is coming to hit earth
You never read the comet thread, did you?
public or to test new weapons or machines
Strange you should mention that. It is a known fact, thanks to sleuths who love to slither around the perimeter of Area 51 (with radio scanners this
time) that the radio frequencies used by the "camo dudes" there are in fact in a frequency block assigned to, guess who, FEMA! So, why would there
be a direct link between FEMA and Area 51, the most secret facility on the planet? I SERIOUS doubt that Area 51 is really a giant bunker to save the
I will be very surprise if they are prison camps as some conspirators say.
In April 1984, President Reagan signed Presidential Director Number 54 that allowed FEMA to engage in a secret national "readiness exercise" under
the code name of REX 84. The exercise was to test FEMA's readiness to assume military authority in the event of a "State of Domestic National
Emergency" concurrent with the launching of a direct United States military operation in Central America. The plan called for the deputation of U.S.
military and National Guard units so that they could legally be used for domestic law enforcement. These units would be assigned to conduct sweeps and
take into custody an estimated 400,000 undocumented Central American immigrants in the United States. The immigrants would be interned at 10 detention
centers to be set up at military bases throughout the country.
Well, if FEMA did gain control, the president could issue and executive order limiting the power of FEMA and reinstate the government.
Could he? Maybe. At that point, with no congressional oversight, there is NO guarantee that FEMA would obey any order given by the president. Of
course, if you honestly believe that FEMA would willingly relinquish control after completely violating every civil liberty of the entire American
population, you are beyond hope! FEMA is fully aware that after such an action they would be looking at a nationwide popular rebellion!