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Give in to Globalism?

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posted on Jul, 4 2016 @ 11:41 PM
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Okay, I don't know why I chose this thread specifically to ask this question. I could've chosen a million others, I suppose. Perhaps it has something to do with the idea of free speech I read over HERE.

Free speech does not exist. It is allowed by the superior. You always have a superior. Except that ONE guy, I gather.

I know that's tough to hear, but it hasnt, won't and can never be a false statement.

Sure, someone might not be around to stop you while you bellow to the valley a great thought. I get it, there are times when it is not applicable. That doesn't make my statement false.

Someone else can take that free speech away at anytime, provided they do it by right of conquest.

ex. Someone could tie someone up and put them on display in a town centre, but the next chain happens when the police come. And thus power is transferred. You yourself can never defend your free speech fully. YOU ARE DEPENDENT ON OTHERS TO PROVIDE IT.

Today, the State is the ultimate authority on free speech. Don't believe me? Who has the authority to put you in prison? Not your neighbor. Not you.

So, clearly it's a magickal thing we CHOOSE as a society to live this way. It's really man's crowning achievement, society. I know, other animals have societies. Sure they do. But nothing as complex as ours. Nothing so capable of world domination in such a short time span can match man.

Anyways, I haven't even gotten to the question yet. I applaud you for sticking with me, but that's my context for the question.

With the HOLY GRAIL of rights born unto God, Free Speech, easily proven that in totality it cannot truly exist (bigger gun), why not just give in to Globalism and let's run this whole planet like an Ant Farm? I'm talking about hive think and absolutely maximum efficiency. You think we dominate this planet right now? Imagine if we worked as singularly as ants or bees? We'd be talking a solar system worth of domination.

So, one last time for the tl;dr kids:

Whith free speech unable to be 100% defended by the self, defeating the greatest of all rights, proving a losing battle, why not just accept globalism on a maximized scale and take benefit of enormous potential inherent in the efficiency?





posted on Jul, 4 2016 @ 11:49 PM
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a reply to: Tempter

Because I got a pair of nuts that force me to get violent (even if it ends in my demise) when others try to step on me. As long as I bring some of them to hell with me, then they have also paid the price of giving in to globalism.



posted on Jul, 4 2016 @ 11:51 PM
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a reply to: Tempter

Because I am a free man and beholden to no Government except that which I choose. You can always choose death over fealty and I know not what others would choose, but as for me give me liberty or give me death.


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posted on Jul, 5 2016 @ 12:00 AM
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a reply to: Tempter

No.

There are enough guns and ticked off combat veterans in the U.S. to stop the socialists in the gov from total takeover.

It scares the socialist arm of the U.S. gov. and that is why they are trying to disarm law abiding Americans when criminals are committing the gun violence.

Their fear is also why you are seeing all of these "No you really don't have the right to this or that" commentaries by leftists.



posted on Jul, 5 2016 @ 12:25 AM
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originally posted by: Picklesneeze
a reply to: Tempter

No.

There are enough guns and ticked off combat veterans in the U.S. to stop the socialists in the gov from total takeover.

It scares the socialist arm of the U.S. gov. and that is why they are trying to disarm law abiding Americans when criminals are committing the gun violence.

Their fear is also why you are seeing all of these "No you really don't have the right to this or that" commentaries by leftists.





Were fighting the rich man's wars for them already.



posted on Jul, 5 2016 @ 12:46 AM
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a reply to: Tempter

It is not very easy to take away something people hold dear. If you try, there will be trouble.

Human beings aren’t ants. We can’t be made to live like ants.



posted on Jul, 5 2016 @ 12:57 AM
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a reply to: Tempter

This is the citizens' war.



posted on Jul, 5 2016 @ 01:11 AM
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originally posted by: Astyanax
a reply to: Tempter
We can’t be made to live like ants.


I'm glad that's cleared up.




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posted on Jul, 5 2016 @ 01:11 AM
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originally posted by: Picklesneeze
a reply to: Tempter

This is the citizens' war.


Whatever are you talking about? Expand, please.



posted on Jul, 5 2016 @ 01:23 AM
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a reply to: Tempter

Instead of joining the gov's military and going off to other lands to kill foreigners-American citizens will be cleaning up the traitors in the gov.

In the event of an overthrow,I mean.

Read the book "Out of the Ashes" by William W. Johnstone if you get a chance.It should be required reading in schools,IMO.



posted on Jul, 5 2016 @ 01:44 AM
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originally posted by: Tempter
With the HOLY GRAIL of rights born unto God, Free Speech, easily proven that in totality it cannot truly exist (bigger gun), why not just give in to Globalism and let's run this whole planet like an Ant Farm? I'm talking about hive think and absolutely maximum efficiency. You think we dominate this planet right now? Imagine if we worked as singularly as ants or bees? We'd be talking a solar system worth of domination.


I think you're giving Hive Mind Mentality and Conformity way too much credit. In obtaining Maximum Efficiency you'd be losing the benefit of creativity and complexity. Meaning you're really just efficient in a very limited spectrum of possibilities. You might dominate for a while but sooner or later you'll lose out to a lack of adaptability. Why in the world would you aspire to live in an Ant Farm??? That's like aspiring to live up to a fraction of your potential with a goal of becoming a slave without any individuality at all.

Thanks but no thanks. I'll accept the lack of complete domination for a little random novelty in life myself.



posted on Jul, 5 2016 @ 01:45 AM
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If all 7 billion of us collectively decided to stop having opinions and just let one colossal global government handle everything, what do you think would happen?

I see no sign of any regulating authority anywhere even attempting to solve humanity's top problems. If we stop bitching about the state of the economy, the environment, or our collective health and well being, the problems don't disappear just because we stop talking about them. But hey,it's no longer your problem, right?



posted on Jul, 5 2016 @ 01:48 AM
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Both Genghis Khan and Hitler approved of globalism personally I prefer individualism.



posted on Jul, 5 2016 @ 01:51 AM
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a reply to: mOjOm

Exactly. In simpler terms, if you've seen one ant farm, one bee hive,
you've seen 'em all.

There's nothing wrong with this planets 'workers' in the 'queen bees' that suck...



posted on Jul, 5 2016 @ 01:59 AM
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a reply to: Tempter

And yet, I would still look at whatever it is in orbit that is threatening extinction with an ultimatum to a hive mind and say "Just give me the fire and get it over with then."




posted on Jul, 5 2016 @ 02:02 AM
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I agree that there's always someone in charge, but surely that is the problem that having a binding, written constitution seeks to address?



posted on Jul, 5 2016 @ 02:24 AM
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Nope...as it stands we are already funding the UN, man was that a bait and switch. We all just need to clean house in our own Countries and remove politicians that are loyal to Globalists rather then their Countryman.



posted on Jul, 5 2016 @ 03:55 AM
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You can't beat the system, go with the flow, if your looking for an attitude, go with the flow



posted on Jul, 5 2016 @ 04:13 AM
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originally posted by: Tempter
Okay, I don't know why I chose this thread specifically to ask this question. I could've chosen a million others, I suppose. Perhaps it has something to do with the idea of free speech I read over HERE.

Free speech does not exist. It is allowed by the superior. You always have a superior. Except that ONE guy, I gather.


If you believe in superiors I feel sorry for you. No one is superior or inferior to me personally. If you mean at work that is a technical term. It doesn't make that person actually superior in terms of life or death.



I know that's tough to hear, but it hasnt, won't and can never be a false statement.


It is not tough to hear, because it isn't true. It is false and superior is an illusion.



Sure, someone might not be around to stop you while you bellow to the valley a great thought. I get it, there are times when it is not applicable. That doesn't make my statement false.


It does in what you see as 'inapplicable' instances. This makes it a false statement in these instances.



Someone else can take that free speech away at anytime, provided they do it by right of conquest.

ex. Someone could tie someone up and put them on display in a town centre, but the next chain happens when the police come. And thus power is transferred. You yourself can never defend your free speech fully. YOU ARE DEPENDENT ON OTHERS TO PROVIDE IT.


AS THEY ARE SYMBIOTICALLY DEPENDENT ON US. Superiority is an illusion.



Today, the State is the ultimate authority on free speech. Don't believe me? Who has the authority to put you in prison? Not your neighbor. Not you.


I have been in jail (not prison though). It was always because I was stupid. But it didn't ever take away my freedom of speech. And wasn't the result of a free speech issue.



So, clearly it's a magickal thing we CHOOSE as a society to live this way. It's really man's crowning achievement, society. I know, other animals have societies. Sure they do. But nothing as complex as ours. Nothing so capable of world domination in such a short time span can match man.

Anyways, I haven't even gotten to the question yet. I applaud you for sticking with me, but that's my context for the question.

With the HOLY GRAIL of rights born unto God, Free Speech, easily proven that in totality it cannot truly exist (bigger gun), why not just give in to Globalism


Because I am not a chump or a wuss. Or stupid.



and let's run this whole planet like an Ant Farm? I'm talking about hive think and absolutely maximum efficiency.


Ants? hive mentality? We are supposed to fight against people who view us as ants and promote the hive mentality.

Thinking as individuals (for ourselves) is a threat to the greatest of mankinds adversaries who do not want this and search for people like you to promote their agenda.



You think we dominate this planet right now? Imagine if we worked as singularly as ants or bees? We'd be talking a solar system worth of domination.

So, one last time for the tl;dr kids:

Whith free speech unable to be 100% defended by the self, defeating the greatest of all rights, proving a losing battle, why not just accept globalism on a maximized scale and take benefit of enormous potential inherent in the efficiency?



Again because we are not giant ¶uss bags and cowards, that is the reason.
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posted on Jul, 5 2016 @ 10:16 AM
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a reply to: Tempter

It's been tried a few times. Always fails.

History, kids. Read history.



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