UK Political Madness Voting No Longer Respected

originally posted by: TheKnightofDoom
a reply to: Kester

we the people have no actual say in things.

It wasn't a majority. How is that 'the people' if it was a land slide, it would be a better representation of the country as a whole.

a reply to: strongfp

More people voted leave then remain so the majority who voted voted leave.
Tough luck if some couldn't be arsed to vote they lost their right to have a say in it if they did not vote.

a reply to: TheKnightofDoom

That's not what a majority is. and 28% of the population didn't even vote. It was almost 50 / 50 in votes. How is that a majority?

a reply to: ScepticScot

You can look down onto Gloucester from several vantage points. It's visually measurable. Estimate 13 times that and you have a picture of the actual humanity, their houses and workplaces.

After Hiroshima some people would go up a hill and look down, estimating the area that had just been destroyed. It brings home reality in a way percentages can't.

a reply to: Metallicus

Yup, blame the youngest generation, just all old people have been doing since the beginning of time.
If I am not mistaken back in 1974 Britain voted to leave and was denied by government, and remained in the EU without any hiccups, if anything you benefited from it. Now all of a sudden people get scared and xenophobic towards a slight hiccup in immigration and they all flock together screaming nationalism.
Why now?

a reply to: strongfp

52 is greater than 48 so yes the majority of voters voted out.
Why is this hard for you to understand?.

a reply to: strongfp

You really don't have a clue about this EU referendum do you.
People voted for all sorts of reasons and with a 70 odd percent turnout the vote was leave.
Why are you seemingly crying about it?

a reply to: strongfp

. . . if anything you benefited from it.

Yesterday in discussion the subject of family feuds fuelled by EU agricultural grants came up. Then we got onto the endlessly updated safety sign regulations and how the expense of having new signs made is a drain on small business. Just two of many ways things got worse.

The 'you' who benefitted isn't me or most of the people I interact with.

a reply to: strongfp

Also bs on the racism card you have played I live in Bradford who voted 54% leave. Many muslims around here voted out. One of my drivers whom is a UK citizen born in Pakistan was well chuffed we voted out...is he a racist?.

a reply to: SprocketUK

UKIP is left?

I asked that sarcastically, sorry that it wasn't clear.

in the US I've seen in the last few years has been less a demo and more a near riot with people and property getting attacked.

Yeah some but it's mostly hype or sabotage... I imagine it's the same there.

originally posted by: strongfp


28% of the population didn't even vote.

Thats there own #ing problem!

originally posted by: strongfp
It was almost 50 / 50 in votes. How is that a majority?

So the 52% need to be ignored?

originally posted by: TheKnightofDoom
a reply to: strongfp

52 is greater than 48 so yes the majority of voters voted out.
Why is this hard for you to understand?.

Because these libitards focused on Liberal arts crap ect rather than did maths for education

Why study statistics when you can study African Transgendered musical basket weaving.

originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: Metallicus

Yup, blame the youngest generation, just all old people have been doing since the beginning of time.
If I am not mistaken back in 1974 Britain voted to leave and was denied by government, and remained in the EU without any hiccups, if anything you benefited from it. Now all of a sudden people get scared and xenophobic towards a slight hiccup in immigration and they all flock together screaming nationalism.
Why now?

Umm, no we never.

In 1973, the Government of the day led by Edward Heath took the U.K into what was known as the EEC or Common Market.

In 1975, under a different Government led by Harold Wilson, he gave the country a referendum on continuing the U.K's membership, where the vote favoured remain.

It has benefited many BIG corporations and Banks, but it has not benefited the average Joe. As for claims of xenophobia, keep on keeping on, because that's just a rouse to deflect the fact that people have had enough of the entity called the European Union.

Research is your friend.

originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: SprocketUK

UKIP is left?

I asked that sarcastically, sorry that it wasn't clear.

in the US I've seen in the last few years has been less a demo and more a near riot with people and property getting attacked.

Yeah some but it's mostly hype or sabotage... I imagine it's the same there.

Aha, sarcasm, ok. Missed it 1st time round.

There may well be agitators yes, but it's always the left that gets out there messing stuff up, isn't it?

a reply to: SprocketUK

Yeah, traditionally Conservatives don't protest. They rally for something rather than demonstrate against something. I kind of wonder what would happen if they did. Maybe Obamacare wouldn't have happened in the US is Conservatives had marched in the streets.

a reply to: Kali74

Well, the way things are going on both sides of the pond we just might see what happens when the right throws off the mask of decency and hits the streets like the left have been doing.

I doubt it ll be either pretty or helpful.

originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: SprocketUKMaybe Obamacare wouldn't have happened in the US is Conservatives had marched in the streets.

Yeah. What ever DID happen to the tea party? And the death panels? I think the conservative right did kind of protest but not like how we're seeing the Soros funded protests of this election.

originally posted by: SprocketUK
a reply to: Kali74

Well, the way things are going on both sides of the pond we just might see what happens when the right throws off the mask of decency and hits the streets like the left have been doing.

I doubt it ll be either pretty or helpful.

Well, years back I remember firearms being brought to rallies and it had the media a bit uncomfortable. I wonder if we'll start to see more of that.

I dug up this little gem.
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a reply to: Kester

I saw something on Facebook today from Upworthy. They were spelling out their version of the Brexit issue (clearly fans of the European Union) with clips from The Simpsons and they had one clip with Kent Brockman saying "Democracy simply doesn't work". I'm not sure how to interpret what they were trying to say exactly, but given the context it seemed odd; as if they were actually trying to stand against democracy. Perhaps I misinterpreted it, but your post caused me to think of that. Does the next generation really want to abandon the democratic process? If so, in favor of what? Socialism? Communism? What?

a reply to: redhorse

Wait, are you saying they were using Simpsons clips to convey a message? Using a satirical cartoon to prove a political point? Wow. If that's not some serious dumbing down, I don't know what is.