originally posted by: CJCrawley
a reply to: smurfy
this is not what this thread is about.
I think it's exactly what it's about.
I very much doubt that the Northern Ireland population has any will to break away from the UK, regardless of how they voted in the referendum (though
you personally might want to). I don't think the leader of Sinn Fein gives anybody cause to think otherwise.
" I think it's exactly what it's about."
Then you did not read even one of my posts, while you would like to tell me what I think.
It also appears you don't even know that the referendum is not binding at this moment in time,
It appears that you don't know that there is no attempt as yet to ratify the referendum in parliament, since that is the only place it can be done.
It appears you don't know that without the above, article 50 cannot be evoked.
So then you want to presume more,
"(though you personally might want to)" The fact is I'm English, quite content to be English, and remain in the UK.
So, do you want to discuss what the link says or not, do you want to discuss, what I have said re the link or not?
Do you want to discuss what I am saying re the referendum above.
It seems to me, that no one wants to discuss anything as yet, in what is actually a very complex chain of events, something the linked story is trying
to say to those who want to listen.
Oh yes, there were some posts that said everything will be hunky dory, "They will sort it out" Typical euphorics that you might see post elections
about parliamentary MPs.
Trouble is in this case the, 'they' are all doing runners..did you ever see that before? at the moment it's all about political in-fighting.
Now, to take Tulpa's remark in a post to you, "My personal opinion is this...
If we are forced to remain or forced to re-vote, then that is the end of democracy in the UK." You agreed.
It appears that Tulpa doesn't realise that democracy ended in the the UK back in 1972 when Heath used the house of commons to bring the UK into the
EEC when he had no right to do so, a simple aye or no nay vote by MP's. Heath should have had a referendum then, which he didn't..or should have
dissolved the government and had an election, which he didn't, even though he knew then that it was to be a political union, which was against the
English constitution at least, in fact a codifed part of the English constitution from 1689.
That Harold Wilson did have a referendum in retrospect, made no difference because the wording of that referendum included the phrase, "Do you think
that the United Kingdom should stay in the European Community" when the reality was that England at least, was not in the EEC legally anyway. So I
think it is fair to say that Harold perpetuated a myth knowingly.