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Illusion of the Universe and Mind

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posted on Jul, 2 2016 @ 03:19 PM
Its been some time that I have been on ATS. I have gone past the set of events that I have posted before and have now sort of understood the actual setup of this universe/world.

Everything in this universe is just a play/game/visualization set for your soul. The more you look the more you find. So if you try to search for what is out there in space you are going to keep on finding stuff further and further away while on the other hand if you look deeper and deeper into your body i.e. atoms, nucleus, protons,etc. you are going to keep on finding new stuff which is smaller and smaller. But if you look within your soul. This is the true self. It is limited and something that we know nothing about. The more you entangle yourself with this universe or your surroundings the more you get caught up with the illusion.

Now for the other side of things, Time is relevant to the dimension we are in. If we were to imagine a life of a drawing on a paper. As it is a still image relative to its dimensions time is frozen. While if you create a flipbook animation time seems to move and the drawing has a timeline. For us we control whether time goes forward or back for the 2D drawing. and if you include or replace a certain set of drawings or make a complete change of script and replace the original flipbook with the updated one. The drawing won't know the difference as for its time it has always been what is in the beginning of the updated flipbook as well as what is at the end of it.

Same way for us 3D people we experience time as linear. But infact its the same as a flipbook for a 4th Dimension person. So there is no future nor past. There is only present and by the choices we/soul makes defines what our future and past is. Now you may be wondering how can it change the past won't I remember something different if it has changed. Well no you won't know the difference as the whole flipbook/timeline has changed including your memory. Bringing it back to the discussion. When someone within the 3D space feels that time has passed or slipped or something isn't right its basically a script change in the 4th Dimension. So when you are your body in the next flipbook/timeline you would have memories and thoughts of that flipbook/timeline. The reason why we feel the discord is that the soul is independent of this transition and it feels the change yet is not able to convey bcos we don't really understand the soul.

For another angle to this theory, I would consider Time Travel to be possible, towards the past or the future. But there won't be 2 of you in either case. There would be just you with the memories and thoughts and everything the same as of what it was or would have been when you got there, so to clear up the answer, you won't know the difference. You won't know that you have just time traveled, and would live your life as if nothing ever happened.

We are so caught up with our mind that we never look beyond it. If you try to think of what is beyond your mind. Remember, thinking is also a part of your body's brain and so a part of the mind itself which cannot comprehend and will show you another illusion to fill the gap.

I have now come to a stage where I don't understand how am I supposed to look beyond the mind without using the mind.

posted on Jul, 2 2016 @ 04:40 PM
Mostly on the right track. Along with seeing outside the 3D box, you can see everywhere and everywhen, all at once.

Omniscient and omnipresent is the spirit.

posted on Jul, 2 2016 @ 04:42 PM
There is a future and I suggest you prepare accordingly with a diversified portfolio and 401k...

I don't want to pay for a whole generation of new age millennials who can't control their impulses...


posted on Jul, 2 2016 @ 05:13 PM
Of course, desire and attachment to memory is what refuses to let someone move into the future... even though sight sees the present the attached mind wants to deny its reality for a hope of making past future, when the other side says if you make the future just past then theres progress... so the middle? The eye does not decieve when not so attached no matter the relative realities occuring in those illusions or delusions that want something different than what is currently occuring.

There's people in the planet that have no Idea who Leonard Nimoy is... there's some that only know him as Mr. Spock on a TV series, there's others that don't know he passed away. So if they didnt even know his existence... then now it is a reality for anyone reading, if they were familiar with the character, then they may not know he also sang, wrote, directed and was in other productions but may not have know he passed away until reading this... so that's realitivity in a nut shell.

Sorry to anyone if this was a spolier... but it is reality... and if it wasn't known to you in whatever unknowing then the ignorance of his passing is no longer and a part of your knowledge has been upgraded... there's a pretty cool fellow Named Leonard Nimoy and now you can check out his work if interested, and if a fan not seem like an idiot when you discusss it and say the new series should have him acting in it... and they have to break the news as to why he wont be.

There's the Spocker and I hope this wasnt too much of a shocker... live long and prosper.

edit on 2-7-2016 by BigBrotherDarkness because: (no reason given)

posted on Jul, 2 2016 @ 05:24 PM
a reply to: sid1314

You are going quite deep for ATS. You wont get accepted by the religious guys here, neither the scientific guys. Even you will have the problem convincing he so called "spiritual" guys. Yet...
I have to admit you are right.
But how to explain people who still try to put their right foot in the left shoe things like...

You do not move in space,
You do not move in time,
You were never born,
And you will never die.

Thaaats way too much. Even for ATS.

posted on Jul, 2 2016 @ 05:51 PM
a reply to: Lassiecat

We'll see.

posted on Jul, 2 2016 @ 06:02 PM
a reply to: Lassiecat

Such limitations do you impose them only on others or accept them as your own as well? Yes there is a difference, one reflects one projects, one simply does as boozo said... sees.

posted on Jul, 2 2016 @ 06:28 PM
You got it bro ha!

Everything you just said can be surmised in the slit experiment. Our observations dictate reality. Truly a 1's and 0's reality.

If you could see though to the end, what Fun Would this all be? ....exactly.

Quite the magnificent experiment is it not?

posted on Jul, 2 2016 @ 07:42 PM
nvm...cant figure out pics anymore
edit on 2-7-2016 by Tucket because: (no reason given)

posted on Jul, 3 2016 @ 03:52 AM
a reply to: BigBrotherDarkness

As for others, same for me. Limitations are to the one who sees in widths and lenghtgs. No limitations for the one who's sight can encapture beyond the horizon. Yet if we want to do so, we are in trouble, as our tools for this task are limited. We have to improvise. I am not saying it is easy... neither nescessery. But in my humble opinion, is rewarding.

posted on Jul, 3 2016 @ 05:49 AM
Our minds are continually bombarded with bubbles of thought that float up from our subconscious into our awareness. That noise drowns out our spiritual nature which is deeper and very subtle.

By meditating, we can eventually still the noise (bubbles of thought) so we can become one with our spiritual nature.

So your mind is not an obstacle. It's the untrained mind and the constant barrage of noise it generates, that is.

edit on 3-7-2016 by glend because: (no reason given)

posted on Jul, 3 2016 @ 06:27 AM
a reply to: sid1314

Uh, we are travelling in time. All the time, so to speak.

What do you think about this: The faster you travel directly correlates to more time passed.

posted on Jul, 4 2016 @ 02:31 AM
a reply to: Ericthedoubter

To which which form has more time passed? I would say it's in relation to gravity and spin... in space there is a spin but on the solar system scale, the galactic scale, interstellar and well local spin based on the ground of an object. On the solar system scale off world one ages slower, meaning less spin... less gravity? Perhaps only in relation to the conglomerate but perhaps not as we are all in perpetual free fall with the planet falling at the same rate of time, as we move it spins in a continuous vector yet wobbles even if we are not moving in the same vector... it seems gravity relates to density the denser an object the faster it falls with the mass... as things closer to the core will crush like the glass on a submarine if not rated for the pressures of that density... of course this may be in relation to it's mass in size as to it's free fall around the sun that is circling a black hole or falling towards it at a local and larger galactic center. This of course could be tested on the moon or mars for what is known as atmospheres... when changing depths so from highest point to lowest point, this would be a great moon experiment since at surface level things free fall at the same rate.

Of course sitting in one spot ones energy eventually aligns with the planets I've noticed my head will start tilting to the same degree as the earths axis after a few hours... it's an interesting phenomena, of course during blissful awareness of being it seems as if I'm wobbling with the earths wobble... its a curious yet light nice feeling when perceived.

I can only guess as I have no instrumentation that it is, the particulate in the body begins matching the local spin of the entire mass... when it becomes a resting potential... I'm not exactly sure what the effect is other than bodily feelings of buoyancy, and bliss or perhaps local field effects, due to the particle alignment?

Unsure, so just stating the phenomena that has arisen in objective awareness from one very old form of woo to the scientific woo for some understanding of what may actually be occurring, since dogma of the fields have translation barriers yet likely the same effects described.

Of course anyone is welcome to carry the concept further in their own study or research...

posted on Jul, 27 2016 @ 01:17 AM
Of course sitting in one spot ones energy eventually aligns with the planets I've noticed my head will start tilting to the same degree as the earths axis after a few hours... it's an interesting phenomena, of course during blissful awareness of being it seems as if I'm wobbling with the earths wobble... its a curious yet light nice feeling when perceived.
interesting facts
a reply to: BigBrotherDarkness

posted on Jul, 27 2016 @ 03:51 AM
a reply to: terminator292

Oh I don't know if I'd call it a fact outside of local phenomenology, I'm just an observer someone else may observe something else in their phenomenological relativity. If it arises and is perceived, then it can also pass and not be perceived... so the only thing left obvious is simply awareness. As such this arises due to that, this doesn't arise due to this. That's all science seems to be based off of yet it is still hampered by calling statistically likely variables as fact... but they work well enough in a given situation, but one unaccounted for variable away from a totality of that entire system from being a failure.

All of these boxes we try to enclose things in work in the relative environments we try to box them in. Christianity does work without a belief in Christ, Buddhism works if ones doesn't treat Buddha as anyone but someone that gave you directions, yet both said walk it; this thing called life... not stand there ruminating with cud in ones mouths until we evolve the stomach for it. But no matter what things arise things pass thats the nature of everything in phenomenal existence... taking any variable in such a system as an absolute instead of something that arose due to all of the conditions in that point in time converging for it to arise leaves so very many things unaccounted for in phenomenology.

Yet no need to get complex, sight arises due to having eyes, all senses are the same... none of the perceptions phenomenological that arise in these senses, need to be carried further beyond their arising. We know some experience causes us pain and some of it suffering, yet adaptation to those adversities is what drives or hinders that very evolving itself.

Life is tenacious we can see how desperate it is to cling to form, by animals abandoning their own children for something better for oneself in a total disregard of that life itself being more precious in the equality and respect for it's being. Of course we can evolve ourselves into an extreme of bias out of the loop, like the Panda only eating Bamboo it has gotten to the point of not even liking any ol bamboo so specialists in order to keep the Panda around have been importing and playing with bamboo, know who else is next in the way of Panda? The Koala, due to the eucalyptus being it's bamboo.

When such species takes to such an extreme of bias to one side or the other, it is always detrimental to the entire affected species... whether one wants to call it good from one extreme or bad from the other extreme... balance out all the good and bads from a room full of people via questionnaire in a game of elimination and no one will be left in the room due to bias... no matter how closely as a group they may have identified with before it even started, that is making sure honesty is left as a control, as some simply due to affinity are known to change their individual answers for conformity and cohesion, and in such a manner is how groups and society forms...

yet since we are all in contact and aware of each other, it's best to speak of humanity as a blanket when moving forward, yet when we go to the extremes of bias at either end we will still be left with an empty room, this is why celebrating differences, tolerating others, and embracing the creativity and beauty of it is the only thing that will keep us moving forward despite the constant inequality that keeps us from equilibrium, it is also what keeps us moving forward in growth and adapting to adversity making us stronger as a species, yet in the attempt to dominate and control everything we see as an adversity, we have become a detriment to ourselves and our very existence.

Zikka arising by trying to wipe out the entire mosquito population, through genetic modification... remember how tenacious life is? Genocide always leaves survivors to grow and adapt, life itself sees to it... when something like the panda creates it's own evolutionary dead end the form of it's existence bows it's head into being left as a distant memory. Yet life the energy harnessing all matter known and unknown still goes on, regardless to any concepts or subjectivity we try to bind it too as chains and make it a subject to enslave to our ideas or concepts of knowledge, it just continues and flows on regardless of any bias to form and that's just nature itself, being it is what it is as it is arising and passing in the moment it is ad infinitum never the same moment as the previous, holding onto that that has passed optional and not required for it nor anything to exist as it is from one moment to the next... choice changes a variable in the equation but never the flow that can not be harnessed in any permanence just phenomenology experienced in it's arising moment to moment to moment.

My apologies for refuting "fact" if it's true to you it's true to your local relativity of being and that's where "fact" always ends in the hands or mind in which it is held.

posted on Jul, 28 2016 @ 02:24 AM
a reply to: BigBrotherDarkness
you are very humble my friend. you are right on spot! every word you wrote, pointed the facts some of which i did not come to know as of today, yet from my perspective it looks like you dont like facts. its like you have churned so many facts/knowledge that you no longer satisfied from anything. it reminded me in the movie matrix where agent smith had enough of the world the creator created. also the chaos theory depicted in Jurassic park came to my mind while reading your post. i must admit that your tone is but optimistic. and i think you must be a high scholarly fellow. as far as experience of the rotating earth is concerned, its just the feeling that your head started tilting. its not the fact because it will violate so many scientific laws. yet you felt it. i felt that too thats the reason i said interesting facts.
as we know that we are far inferior species when it comes to technology. so we have to believe the words the sage/spiritual guru said to us. we are just proving the very facts they discovered a long ago or maybe on some other planetary system in this current/our universe. And they are (or should i say were) saying its all an illusion. i agree on 4 dimension analogy of this thread. which is again a perception POV only.

posted on Jul, 28 2016 @ 07:55 AM
a reply to: terminator292

I understand, a similar and shared phenomenological experience that makes it true to more than just the individual this is what forms groups etc. problem is those groups once formed... then either tolerate those saying not fact we don't know what you're talking about that may want to go to war over something that is better left back in the moment in which it occurred and never spoken of.


So fact is a lot like a knife no matter what we call that piece of metal it has the power to cut, use it to make sandwiches to feed or used by those to kill because they don't like sandwiches...

Sticking out my finger pointing at this either adds meat or gets cut off... no matter as long as it helps bring some balance and ease to the disease we unknowingly spread through ignorance.

I appreciate the thoughts of humility I have my selfish moments like when I pull the tomatoes off of things... and they go to waste except to feed flies and pestilence back into the cycle instead of feeding someone else.

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