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originally posted by: BrianFlanders
originally posted by: SprocketUK
originally posted by: auraofblack
a reply to: SprocketUK
A good compromise? He was acquitted. The law either works or it doesn't. It doesn't, I love the new breeds of law which restrict a natural human right.
Hmm, yes.
Though this kind of thing doesn't happen to someone acquitted of a single count of rape.
So why doesn't the news report mention anything else in this particular case? Why hasn't the court made any comments as to what else the man might have been accused of?
Their case wasn't proved, but the guy is being punished anyway.
originally posted by: SprocketUK
originally posted by: BrianFlanders
originally posted by: SprocketUK
originally posted by: auraofblack
a reply to: SprocketUK
A good compromise? He was acquitted. The law either works or it doesn't. It doesn't, I love the new breeds of law which restrict a natural human right.
Hmm, yes.
Though this kind of thing doesn't happen to someone acquitted of a single count of rape.
So why doesn't the news report mention anything else in this particular case? Why hasn't the court made any comments as to what else the man might have been accused of?
Dunno their reasons for not releasing more info but it can be anything from child protection right up to national security.
originally posted by: SprocketUK
If this bloke has a squeaky clean past then this will get overturned by the law lords (if it goes that far) and he'll get a load of money in compo.
originally posted by: BrianFlanders
originally posted by: SprocketUK
If this bloke has a squeaky clean past then this will get overturned by the law lords (if it goes that far) and he'll get a load of money in compo.
Yeah. Well, I hope he gets it regardless of whether or not he has a squeaky clean past. People should not be punished for things that can't be proven. That's the worst possible precedent.
originally posted by: BrianFlanders
People should not be punished for things that can't be proven. That's the worst possible precedent.
originally posted by: SprocketUK
originally posted by: BrianFlanders
originally posted by: SprocketUK
If this bloke has a squeaky clean past then this will get overturned by the law lords (if it goes that far) and he'll get a load of money in compo.
Yeah. Well, I hope he gets it regardless of whether or not he has a squeaky clean past. People should not be punished for things that can't be proven. That's the worst possible precedent.
That's your opinion and you are entitled to it.
Mine differs.
That's why the world is so interesting
originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
originally posted by: BrianFlanders
People should not be punished for things that can't be proven. That's the worst possible precedent.
yes it is.
and since we come from a nation with a no fly list....it seems we have our own issues with due process. the only difference: us Americans walk around thumping our chest about rights that we just don't have the stones to keep ahold of.
At least Britain doesn't lie to themselves about who they are. In America, we just can't say the same.
originally posted by: BrianFlanders
originally posted by: SprocketUK
originally posted by: BrianFlanders
originally posted by: SprocketUK
If this bloke has a squeaky clean past then this will get overturned by the law lords (if it goes that far) and he'll get a load of money in compo.
Yeah. Well, I hope he gets it regardless of whether or not he has a squeaky clean past. People should not be punished for things that can't be proven. That's the worst possible precedent.
That's your opinion and you are entitled to it.
Mine differs.
That's why the world is so interesting
Life is not supposed to be "interesting" in a police state sort of way.
originally posted by: SprocketUK
I'd guess this is the result of multiple allegations that couldn't be proven in court.
We all know the justice system isn't infallible, this seems a good compromise in my opinion.
originally posted by: SlapMonkey
a reply to: trollz
Sexual risk orders were introduced in England and Wales in 2015 and can be applied to any individual who the police believe poses a risk of sexual harm—even if they have never been convicted of a crime.
The order requires this individual to disclose any planned sexual activity to the police or face up to five years in prison.
What utter horsepucky!
Yet, we Americans are the ones with our antiquated thoughts about owning firearms. At least we don't have this garbage (yet).
Seriously, though, who in their right minds would vote for this? What an infringement on civil liberties. I'm guessing it was some progressive feel-good legislation meant to look like they were doing something to fight some sort of perceived "rape culture" or something. What shameful legislation.
originally posted by: StoutBroux
originally posted by: SprocketUK
I'd guess this is the result of multiple allegations that couldn't be proven in court.
We all know the justice system isn't infallible, this seems a good compromise in my opinion.
A good compromise of what? Guilty while innocent????? Multiple allegations mean absolutely nothing. A single crime can have multiple charges. Even murdering a single non-pregnant person, can have multiple murder charges which is crazy but true.
So an analogy COULD be, if you had say, multiple charges of bank robbery against you, and you aren't convicted of any wrong doing but you must call the police and tell them 24 hours ahead of time that you will be entering a bank to perform normal banking activities. Do you think that's okay?
originally posted by: StoutBroux
a reply to: SprocketUK
I see where you're coming from but the law is the law and rules are rules. If the rules aren't respected then they're useless. Get him on something and convict him else step away. Suspicion is not grounds for penalty. I mean sure, sometimes there seems to be truth to allegations but without facts, it's a dead end. Many innocent men have lost their lives to suspicion and erroneous but heartfelt accusations.