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originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: Metallicus
originally posted by: Eilasvaleleyn
I do still find it hilarious that I see far more people whining about PC than I see people trying to enforce it. The other problem is that people seem to find it hard to distinguish between not being PC and being an asshole.
originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
Little Donny Boohoo can say whatever he wants about whoever he wants whenever he wants - and you're seriously going to go after people making fun of his teensy tiny widdle hands?
Two of the most respected American comedians, Chris Rock and Jerry Seinfeld, have discussed the unique problems that comics face on college campuses. In November, Rock told Frank Rich in an interview for New York magazine that he no longer plays colleges, because they’re “too conservative.” He didn’t necessarily mean that the students were Republican; he meant that they were far too eager “not to offend anybody.” In college gigs, he said, “you can’t even be offensive on your way to being inoffensive.” Then, in June, Seinfeld reopened the debate—and set off a frenzied round of op-eds—when he said in a radio interview that comics warn him not to “go near colleges—they’re so PC.”
The entertainers were the other half. They had come to the event on their own dime, and were trying to do whatever it took to please these young people so that they could get some road work. Their first step might have been to read the convention brochure. NACA, it explained, is dedicated to “promoting the importance” of “eliminating” any language that is “discriminatory or culturally insensitive.”
As I listened to the kids hash out whom to invite, it became clear that to get work, a comic had to be at once funny—genuinely funny—and also deeply respectful of a particular set of beliefs. These beliefs included, but were in no way limited to, the following: women, as a group, should never be made to feel uncomfortable; people whose sexual orientation falls beyond the spectrum of heterosexuality must be reassured of their special value; racial injustice is best addressed in tones of bitter anguish or inspirational calls to action; Muslims are friendly helpers whom we should cherish; and belonging to any potentially “marginalized” community involves a crippling hypersensitivity that must always be respected.
But he would not tell the jokes that kill at the clubs. He would not do the bit that ends with him offering oral sex to the magician David Copperfield, or the one about a seductive woman warning him that she might be an ax murderer, or the one about why men don’t like to use condoms. Those jokes include observations about power and sex and even rape—and each, in its complicated way, addresses certain ugly and possibly immutable truths. But they are jokes, not lessons from the gender-studies classroom. Their first objective is to be funny, not to service any philosophical ideal. They go where comedy always wants to go, to the darkness, and they sucker-punch you with a laugh when you don’t think you should laugh.
originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: Kali74
Did you vote for Obama? Do you still support Obama?
Well in fairness if the Left wants to make fun of Donald's body measurements then the rest of us should be able to make fun of Crooked Hilary's face.
Because you weren't doing that before?
originally posted by: mOjOm
originally posted by: Eilasvaleleyn
Probably the shortest way to explain it is that the difference between an asshole and non-PC is the difference between Trump and George Carlin.
Yeah. I'd say that's a pretty good example.