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Amb. Stevens' Sister: Don't Blame Clinton for Benghazi

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posted on Jun, 30 2016 @ 02:35 AM
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originally posted by: Grimpachi

originally posted by: Vector99

originally posted by: Grimpachi

originally posted by: Vector99
a reply to: Gryphon66

If you accidentally shoot and kill your friend, you are responsible.

Unless you work for the government.

You simply don't get it, the double standard.



Why are you bringing up Dick Cheney?

He just shot his friend in the face, guy didn't die.


Oh that's right. He only shot him in the face then somehow got him to apologize for being shot.

That's how Dick rolls, he shoots you in the face and makes YOU say sorry




posted on Jun, 30 2016 @ 02:37 AM
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edit on 6/30/16 by Gothmog because: some folks are worth debating but....



posted on Jun, 30 2016 @ 02:37 AM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

Accepting responsibility without facing consequences is what is childish.



posted on Jun, 30 2016 @ 02:39 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: shooterbrody
Hey deflector record corrector this aint about powell and condy.
Hillary failed to plan an evac for those in her employ.
She failed and is unfit
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Thanks for the blatant admission that you don't care about attacks on America and lives lost ... only about damning Clinton.

We'll see in November who's fit.

I never posted that
You are lying again
Clinton damded herself with the video lie and the "What difference does it make" tantrum
You and other low lives like you will continue to correct the record and devalue truth on the behalf of partisan politics.
Hillary wont make it to november as the dem nom.
To much trash leftvbehind by her and those who blindly follow her like you.



posted on Jun, 30 2016 @ 02:40 AM
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Partisans whining about being partisan, you don't even have the courage to stand up for what you're doing.

We've handed out so many facts here and you just want to ignore them as long as your "side" wins.

Some of you are going to be really testy come November.
edit on 30-6-2016 by Gryphon66 because: ... because cowards tend to run ...



posted on Jun, 30 2016 @ 02:41 AM
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originally posted by: shooterbrody

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: shooterbrody
Hey deflector record corrector this aint about powell and condy.
Hillary failed to plan an evac for those in her employ.
She failed and is unfit
]


Thanks for the blatant admission that you don't care about attacks on America and lives lost ... only about damning Clinton.

We'll see in November who's fit.

I never posted that
You are lying again
Clinton damded herself with the video lie and the "What difference does it make" tantrum
You and other low lives like you will continue to correct the record and devalue truth on the behalf of partisan politics.
Hillary wont make it to november as the dem nom.
To much trash leftvbehind by her and those who blindly follow her like you.


You don't even realize what you've posted.

Your true colors have been seen by all.



posted on Jun, 30 2016 @ 02:44 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Gothmog


I know, right? I've handed you so many facts here and you just want to ignore them as long as your "side" wins.

You're going to be really testy come November.

You have handed nothing except tripe rhetoric . And you know I am on a side ? What side am I on ? Whos side ?
I will give you a chance for redemption
No I wont
Game over , you are all outta tokens (again)



posted on Jun, 30 2016 @ 02:45 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: shooterbrody

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: shooterbrody
Hey deflector record corrector this aint about powell and condy.
Hillary failed to plan an evac for those in her employ.
She failed and is unfit
]


Thanks for the blatant admission that you don't care about attacks on America and lives lost ... only about damning Clinton.

We'll see in November who's fit.

I never posted that
You are lying again
Clinton damded herself with the video lie and the "What difference does it make" tantrum
You and other low lives like you will continue to correct the record and devalue truth on the behalf of partisan politics.
Hillary wont make it to november as the dem nom.
To much trash leftvbehind by her and those who blindly follow her like you.


You don't even realize what you've posted.

Your true colors have been seen by all.


Where is your proof stevens was recalled by hillary?

Just like your other posts it was lies

Where is your proof hillary took steps to stop this from occuring again?l

Oh more lies

You have got to hold the record for most dillegent Hillary drone.
That or your family



posted on Jun, 30 2016 @ 02:47 AM
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originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Gothmog


I know, right? I've handed you so many facts here and you just want to ignore them as long as your "side" wins.

You're going to be really testy come November.

You have handed nothing except tripe rhetoric . And you know I am on a side ? What side am I on ? Whos side ?
I will give you a chance for redemption
No I wont
Game over , you are all outta tokens (again)


What have you done here? Nothing. The usual.

What side are you on? Well, if you cluck and lay eggs ... cowards don't tend to actually have a side.

They just whine and cry.



posted on Jun, 30 2016 @ 02:50 AM
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a reply to: Gryphon66




They just whine and cry.


An expected response.

No personal accountability, it was someone else, now the rest are just whining and crying. Well the rest except the dead people.



posted on Jun, 30 2016 @ 02:52 AM
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a reply to: shooterbrody

What about American lives lost?

What about any and all lives lost?

You don't care about lives lost, American or not. (Like one of your compadres here).

You care about trying to tear down Hillary Clinton.

And you, like your buddies in Congress, are failing ... EPICALLY.

Fox News Poll: Clinton up by 6 points

... now that has to sting ... Fox has to admit the obvious ...

edit on 30-6-2016 by Gryphon66 because: Snark removed



posted on Jun, 30 2016 @ 02:53 AM
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originally posted by: Vector99
a reply to: Gryphon66




They just whine and cry.


An expected response.

No personal accountability, it was someone else, now the rest are just whining and crying. Well the rest except the dead people.


You don't care about dead people.

You've made that clear.

You care about damaging Hillary Clinton.

What a sad example of failed partisanship.



posted on Jun, 30 2016 @ 02:56 AM
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It is very funny, Hilary is not yet even President, but some people have a very bad case of Hillary Derangement Syndrome already!



posted on Jun, 30 2016 @ 02:58 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: shooterbrody

What about American lives lost?

What about any and all lives lost?

You don't care about lives lost, American or not. (Like one of your compadres here).

You care about trying to tear down Hillary Clinton.

And you, like your buddies in Congress, are failing ... EPICLY.

Fox News Poll: Clinton up by 6 points

... now that has to sting ... Fox has to admit the obvious ...

Post your proof or jog on liar
You made outragous claims you cant back up while correcting the record
Now you defkect again using the deaths of american foreign service workers
Have you no cooth
Guess you missed out on home training
In case you were unaware it is bad form to politicize american deaths for gain
Hillary and the dems wont tell you that but it is true



posted on Jun, 30 2016 @ 02:59 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Vector99
a reply to: Gryphon66




They just whine and cry.


An expected response.

No personal accountability, it was someone else, now the rest are just whining and crying. Well the rest except the dead people.


You don't care about dead people.

You've made that clear.

You care about damaging Hillary Clinton.

What a sad example of failed partisanship.

YOU claim that.

I care about accountability.

Right now the precedent is set that NO ONE will EVER be held accountable for such deaths.

That's right, NO ONE EVER.

Why is that?

Do we make an example of Hillary? Well, why not? Do we wait for the next time?

People died, and the people in charge of making sure they didn't die did nothing but blame the other guy.

I don't like those kind of politics, I don't care who is involved.

If no one is ever responsible then why bother having such a thing be a "crime"? No one is going to ever be charged and held responsible. So really, what does it matter?



posted on Jun, 30 2016 @ 03:06 AM
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originally posted by: Vector99
Do we make an example of Hillary? Well, why not?


Funny how you never bothered to make anyone accountable for all the people that died under previous SOS's, but you must blame Hillary! Why is that?


I don't like those kind of politics,


Then why are you blaming only Hillary? It looks like you do like them, but only when it is a Democrat, or a woman, or Hillary....



posted on Jun, 30 2016 @ 03:34 AM
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originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: Vector99
a reply to: Gryphon66




Anytime we step away from objective evidence and start talking politics we lose contact with the facts.
The fact is people died and the person in charge isn't responsible.


It is clear she has taken responsibility. You have asked about consequences. One would have to look back at American deaths at embassies and installations in the past and determine what the consequences were for the current secretary of state.



Clinton claimed responsibility?!

Did she apologize? Did she give a real heartfelt my bad?

What happened? She get fired or something?

So which one of the other embassy attacks were unguarded and the ambassador killed?

Which ones were not sent help ASAP or at all?

Which ones were the result of a video?

Which ones were lied about?

As for Stevens sister, a doctor, right? Wow. I guess everyone has their price.






posted on Jun, 30 2016 @ 04:13 AM
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originally posted by: hellobruce

originally posted by: Vector99
Do we make an example of Hillary? Well, why not?


Funny how you never bothered to make anyone accountable for all the people that died under previous SOS's, but you must blame Hillary! Why is that?


I don't like those kind of politics,


Then why are you blaming only Hillary? It looks like you do like them, but only when it is a Democrat, or a woman, or Hillary....

Oh really now, so a democrat woman gets a free pass.

I will gladly roast any past SOS the same way I do Hillary. Please get that thread rolling!

I don't care about gender or political stance.

I care about accountability.

All I see here is a bunch of excuses why someone shouldn't face consequences.



posted on Jun, 30 2016 @ 04:29 AM
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the State department was underfunded and that is the cause

We should have all stopped reading at the moment of this ridiculous statement. Frikkin' CNN.

No aspect of the 0bama administration has been underfunded except by design. Need I remind everyone the national debt has doubled under his 'leadership'?

I worked in an embassy for years. They're pretty well funded from what I was able to see. A lot of the spending is discretionary, but salaries are not. They could all benefit from a technology refresh, but the DCM normally re-allocates those funds to 'pet' projects. Most of what goes on at the State Dept is a scam. Just a waste of the taxpayer's dime. Right up until your everyday ordinary bad guys end an ambassador.

His sister don't know squat.



posted on Jun, 30 2016 @ 06:25 AM
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originally posted by: thesungod
a reply to: reldra

A very valid point. My real question in regards to this whole thing is this...


CBS News has learned that during the Sept. 11 attack on the U.S. Mission in Benghazi, the Obama Administration did not convene its top interagency counterterrorism resource: the Counterterrorism Security Group, (CSG).

"The CSG is the one group that's supposed to know what resources every agency has. They know of multiple options and have the ability to coordinate counterterrorism assets across all the agencies," a high-ranking government official told CBS News. "They were not allowed to do their job. They were not called upon."


Source

The attack was not Clinton's fault, it was the terrorists. The under funding was not Clintons fault, if they were in fact underfunded.

However she knowingly participated in the video lie.

She also could have pushed or perhaps even convened the CSG. I know the Secretary of Defense can, I am unsure if State can.



The *attack* was not Clinton's fault. No one is blaming Clinton for the attack. Strawman argument is strawman. Hillary is responsible for many other things detailed in the investigation report, that are sickening. First, going on multiple media outlets and blaming an Internet video for a terrorist attack when she knew it was a lie. Second, three hours into the attack, while USA citizens were still fighting for their lives, no support was ordered to go assist. It's well detailed several units wanted to go, but were not able. Why not? So no one officially told them to stand down, but they were not ordered to go assist. Same thing to me. Also Ambassador Stephens parents don't share the same opinions as his sister.




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