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It's Time for the Elites to Rise Up Against the Ignorant Masses

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posted on Jun, 30 2016 @ 08:56 PM
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What are the elites going to do to us that they already haven't done?

They done robbed us, enslaved us, ruined us, raped us, what else can they do?

what else do they want

our children


they already ruined them


Our souls?
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posted on Jul, 1 2016 @ 02:39 AM
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originally posted by: MystikMushroom
a reply to: awareness10

They're acting perfectly human. Greedy. Protectionist. Tribal.

They exemplify not the "ideal" but rather the reality of humanity. Their actions lay bare the most primal and innate instincts and behaviors we have as animals.

The elites show us what we humans are at our most raw, visceral and transparent state: animals.

You and I? We may strive to be more, but in the end it is merely an illusion we cast upon ourselves due to our own inability to achieve the things they have. We tell ourselves that we are "better" or "more human" because intrinsically we begrudge them for having what they have.

It's easy to despise others for taking advantage, walking on other people and being cut-throat.

But ponder this:

If it wasn't for people like those ruling elites, you and I wouldn't be here. We are the product of every subsequent generation before us, which amounts to a grand total of 100 billion people.

That's right. 100 billion people in total have lived before you. And due to their cunning and cut-throat attitudes, they succeeded, survived, outsmarted and outwitted others. They out-bred and passed on their DNA so that you could be here, right now.

You are the product of the most self-serving, ambitious, creative, and greedy human beings to ever walk the Earth. Inside if you is the DNA of warlords and despots. And if it was not for those horrible humans that screwed over their rivals, none of us would be having this conversation right now.

In the end ... greed and lust and desire for more is what has propelled humanity to where we are right now.

The good news is that we are a turning point. Due to all of that self-serving greed we now have the technology not to need it. We can create human paradise on this planet if we desire due to our cunning, skill, technology and will.

However, that innate part of us -- that animalistic and tribal part -- is still very much alive.

We are going to need a complete paradigm shift in the human collective consciousness if we ever hope to reach not only the stars...but our truest potential.

So let us hope that as the decades march forward and technology allows surpluses of resources -- we can somehow shed our animal instincts for survival and focus more on making us better as a people.

The elite? They're only doing what humans have done since time began. You and I? We are products of our species, a species that survived and thrived due to people like them.



I must admit that I disagree with every aspect contained within this post Mystik and I usually agree with you on your assessments.

The elites are simply displaying their lack of evolution due to clinging to their basic animal instincts. Using their power of deceit and manipulation they attempt to program this ideology into the masses for control. This has gone on for a long time, yet it truly kicked into a new gear when Bernays wrote the book Propaganda in 1928.

When it comes down to the history of humanity, we really do not have an accurate version of history to go off of. Granted if you wish to believe that we are the most technologically advanced civilization that has ever existed on this planet as they teach that is your choice. Spiritual evolution is not even considered when discussing the "advanced" nature of civilizations of the past and it should be.

However there appears to be much hidden history and within that we have the esoteric practices of the world. The elite appear to be high level magicians who understand how to craft reality through their odd rituals and practices. Bohemian Grove is case and point.

They have manipulated us through religion for as long as one can remember, instilling fear, fear and more fear as opposed to honoring our true nature.

That which is found within the divinity of our neo-cortex. Within our brain we are reptilian, mammalian and human, the human aspect is represented in our higher centers and connect us to our divine nature. Care, Empathy, Compassion, Action, Will, Strength, Creativity, Innovation.

These are our true characteristics. Our potential for community has been seen in tribal societies, especially the ones where we saw the grandmothers as leaders. Honoring our connection to nature is natural. Working together to ensure the benefit of each other is not some mystical unachievable state beyond the reach of humanity, it has existed and exists now, even in the face of a collective conspiracy of epic proporations.

To say that these elite psychopaths represent true humanity due to their barbarism is an absurd notion. It is a perspective they have carefully crafted and brainwashed into the masses to convince us that this is the way it is and war, greed, envy, rage, and the dog eat dog mentality is simply what human nature is. It is a lie that is meant to justify their way of existence and it has been spread for to damn long!!

Your cynical notion of our evolution is something I just can not agree with. We only have the version of history our dear elite have spoon fed us and it fits into your entire rant about the despicable nature of their reality.

My two cents.
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posted on Jul, 1 2016 @ 04:36 AM
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a reply to: Hazardous1408

Totally agree re your thought about the young folk, I've had to endure a week of freaked out young faces telling the world via Youtube etc that people like me have ruined their world, one girl featured on the BBC moaned that she didn't know how she would be able to sit with her mother etc as they had voted leave and she had voted remain. This was made worse by her using words like "gonna".

Most of these young folk making noise are doing it because their age like are trending stuff like this on social media and they want to be part of the gang. The problem that the slightly more clued up young folk have is that its almost impossible for them to understand the horrendous change from the Common Market we signed up with to the EU as it now stands. You also have the issue that many young folk really are not that clued up politically as yet.

I've seen similar situations regarding Shariah Law where liberals say "oh let these people practice Shariah law, just the good bits, its something they feel strongly about and we should not deny them it". Problem there is that these same folk have not got a FULL understanding of the way Shariah works, you cannot adopt 'some of it', its an all or nothing thing and once you start looking deeply at what it implies on Non Muslims then you realise how incompatible it really is.

The point there is that unless you fully understand an issue they voting on it can prove more destructive if you do not know the facts. Young people ARE our future but at certain times you need people who have more life skills to make the choices. You really need to have witnessed the way the common market has morphed in to a controlling conglomerate of power without comeback.



posted on Jul, 1 2016 @ 06:26 AM
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a reply to: awareness10

From the article itself::


Did I say “ignorant”? Yes, I did. It is necessary to say that people are deluded and that the task of leadership is to un-delude them.


This, IMHO, is very true.

In an ideal world there would be sufficient information available to anybody, and sufficient time to study it. In an ideal world, all people would have sufficient intellect to understand what the implications of their pro- or against- vote would be. In an ideal world you would have a model of it and the model would always match reality.

But we're not in an ideal world, by far. The amount of people that seriously studies matters at hand before voting is marginal. But even those that really TRY to inform themselves often have busy lives and aren't specialists w/regard to the matters at hand. So, they seek help and are immediately confronted with various snake oil artists, like politicians, ATS members and others with an opinon that mainly serves self-interest. Delusion lurks - nay, delusion is what this is all about. So obviously blatantly nonsensical are the utterings of various parties involved - and yet, inevitably there are those that believe them to be truth. It can't be helped and the author is correct that yes, the people are deluded.

Most of the middle-aged, white people that in fact voted "out" are hard working white people - drones, worker bees, and happy to be that. Much of their values base on the old system of nations and kingdoms, they will say strange things like "I'm a true Brit" or "I'm a proud Dutchman" - as if their nationality in itself is anything more than a joke made by the cosmic joker whom uses a set of dice to decide where you will be born.

Of course, if you see nationality as important, as if it were something you EARNED, then anything that takes away the glory of a nation of kindom or whatever takes away YOUR glory. Of which most voters don't have much to begin with. They are against the EU for the most obvious reason: it diludes their imaginatory British power. And UK leaders happily support their delusion, as it conveniently directs the wrath of the people towards the failings of the EU, instead of towards their own failing.

And it's not really easy to resolve either. Building knowledge is a very complex thing, requires wits, proper sources and the skills to find out which are. And if your vote weighs as much as that of a person that HAS had an education on the matter concerned, that specialist is simply outnumbered and a foolish decision is made.

Which indeed, often happens.

So, like the author says, perhaps the elite should indeed take charge again (never thought I'd write that down, but there you have it), but - the proper elite. Not the wealthy bastards that stole from us. But the ones that are willing to use all of their knowledge and skills to help us all, internationally, forwards.


Is that “elitist”? Maybe it is; maybe we have become so inclined to celebrate the authenticity of all personal conviction that it is now elitist to believe in reason, expertise, and the lessons of history. If so, the party of accepting reality must be prepared to take on the party of denying reality, and its enablers among those who know better. If that is the coming realignment, we should embrace it.


Hear, hear!



posted on Jul, 1 2016 @ 07:34 AM
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The problem is - how are we to distinguish the 'proper elite' from the lying, thieving, bastard elite?

A philanthropic elite sounds great but how would they persuade anyone that they and the information they offered were genuine?

Also, perhaps they could explain how they became the elite. Daddy was rich? Or they themselves worked hard and applied themselves to become what they considered elite?

I believe we ought to have an education system that caters to the abilities of the student. Kids with academic abilities are no better than those more suited to practical work - there is a lot of snobbery about that. BUT - the more academically gifted shouldn't be held back to level the playing field, they need to be valued and encouraged, too.

Perhaps we should learn to appreciate our plumbers, electricians or carpenters just as much as our architects and accountants.

Personally, I wouldn't go down a coal mine - not in a million years - but I admire anyone who would risk his life and health down there so I can be warm in winter.

Why shouldn't that man be able to afford a nice house? Why does he have to live hand to mouth because someone didn't value his contribution to society enough? Send his elite masters down the mines for a couple of weeks and see how they feel about doing the work they don't scruple to pay him a pittance for.

It is heart-breaking to see the working man persuaded that he has no interests other than football, a pint in the pub and pictures of half-naked women.

Not for him the pleasure of the Arts which have been designated a diversion for the rich.

Those hard workers who value their country and their heritage have a right to be proud if they survived 'the system' and managed to live something of a fulfilling life given the disadvantage they were under.

That nation they are proud of - they built it. They went out in all weathers and made their contribution to society. Not for them the quiet word in their ear 'ole from a well-connected pal that could make them an actual fortune before lunch.

There is such a thing as a 'national character' - it probably explains why some peoples do better than others in a foreign environment. Some cultures transplant easily and successfully but others do not. There's nothing wrong with either side, it's simple incompatibility.

If the elites want to sneer at the proles for being proud of their country they might want to stop and remember who they're going to tell to go out and fight and die for it next time the 'elites' have a squabble.
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posted on Jul, 1 2016 @ 10:36 AM
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originally posted by: berenikeAlso, perhaps they could explain how they became the elite.


IMHO they should be intelligent, socially agreeable, skilled, and mostly well-educated people that have ldedicated their lives to serving others.


Daddy was rich?


Should not be a criterium for or against. Your personality is what matters, not your kin.


Or they themselves worked hard and applied themselves to become what they considered elite?


That's part of it, but the main characteristic would be that they are totally dedicated to serving OTHERS.


I believe we ought to have an education system that caters to the abilities of the student. Kids with academic abilities are no better than those more suited to practical work - there is a lot of snobbery about that.


It depends on what the kids will do with their lives. My doctor is not allowed to make me a cabinet, my carpenter is not the one I trust with my life. Perhaps I'm wrong and my docter may be a good carpenter, dunno, but it requires a lot of education and practice to be either, so in general I'll trust the one that has a good track record and proper education. The leading elite should be humble, and well educated, but also aware of their limitations. If a carpenter wants to serve the public, he should restrict himself to things he knows about and refrain from opinions on matters he does not know much about. Hence, the "elite" should indeed be a broad representation of the population, but only speak out on matters they really KNOW about. And on those matters, they should decide.


Perhaps we should learn to appreciate our plumbers, electricians or carpenters just as much as our architects and accountants.


Indeed, and I do.


There is such a thing as a 'national character' - it probably explains why some peoples do better than others in a foreign environment. Some cultures transplant easily and successfully but others do not. There's nothing wrong with either side, it's simple incompatibility.


That "national character" is just a set of habits and can be easily transformed. Good examples are the European youth, whom mostly are similar, wherever they are, and have similar customs, speak a similar language etc. - it's just a cultural thing. The "British" character can be found all over the continent too, there are a lot of Germans, Dutch, French etc. that are more British than most Brits..



posted on Jul, 1 2016 @ 11:23 AM
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a reply to: ForteanOrg

Of course your doctor should doct and your carpenter should carpent - I didn't mean to imply they might be interchangeable.

As to the carpenter speaking out on matters - who knows how he might have educated himself in his free time or how good a student he was at school? Equally, the doctor might have no appreciable input on matters outside of medicine. They need to be held to the same standard - not having one listened to because he's a doctor and the other ignored because he's a carpenter.

My point was that I'd like to see people valued for their contribution to society, not looked down on for being poor or not polished enough.

Preferably, they should become less poor and better educated in the not-too-distant future. Hard work deserves a reward.

May I ask - the elite you describe, who do sound admirable, will they be elected? And can we be sure they know what they are talking about and have taken the trouble to educate themselves? And that what they think is good for us is actually good for us? Positions of power don't necessarily attract only those with the good will and ability to help their fellows.

The 'national character' that can be 'easily transformed' - transformed by whom? Transformed how? Transformed why? I can understand that with more travel and communications between nations the people might become more alike or in tune with each other. But I wouldn't want to see the idea pushed as some sort of agenda.

I'm sure we can have amicable relations with countries throughout Europe without anyone losing their national identity or sovereignty. I like foreign cultures - I'm interested in them and often admire them. I'm never too fond of people in general but I think the 'flavour' of distant lands is fascinating. Even the difference in architectural styles tells a lot about the people and their mindset.

Celebrating and appreciating each other is more my way of thinking but it needs to be reciprocal.



posted on Jul, 1 2016 @ 12:37 PM
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What can you do against people who browbeat you into submission by throwing everything at you including racism, ignorance and fear? People are angry because our political system is full of empty promises and changed policies that serve them, not us.

One day people like him are gonna be on the pointy bit of someones spear.



posted on Jul, 1 2016 @ 02:32 PM
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originally posted by: berenike
a reply to: ForteanOrg
As to the carpenter speaking out on matters - who knows how he might have educated himself in his free time


Very true. But if you're really good at something, you should be able to proof it, e.g. do an exam, pass a test, get certified etc.


My point was that I'd like to see people valued for their contribution to society, not looked down on for being poor or not polished enough.


Poverty should not even exist, how on earth can we blame people for being poor? Not being polished enough - well, if that means being impolite, offending others, cursing, etc. then yes, they are not really good at serving others and hence should not decide for us. But looking down on people.. no. Never. Even the foulest person is a human being after all, one of our own kind and hence should be treated with respect and dignity. This is actually a very difficult concept for many, whom feel that child-molesters, mass-murderers and sexual offenders, to name but a few, do not "deserve" to be treated with dignity. But I firmly believe they should be, as ultimately nobody will be better off if we don't. Wrath is evil and quite stupid.


May I ask - the elite you describe, who do sound admirable, will they be elected?


They don't need to. If you want to be part of the "elite", you can be, simply by acting as such. Be one. Serve others, and educate yourself. It's easy. Don't expect to be "recognised" or "elected", other than that other people will mention you favourably.


And can we be sure they know what they are talking about and have taken the trouble to educate themselves? And that what they think is good for us is actually good for us? Positions of power don't necessarily attract only those with the good will and ability to help their fellows.


Hence we should try to limit or eliminate those positions - anarchy. Yes, indeed.

How do you know your GP is worth his/her/its salt?


The 'national character' that can be 'easily transformed' - transformed by whom? Transformed how? Transformed why? I can understand that with more travel and communications between nations the people might become more alike or in tune with each other. But I wouldn't want to see the idea pushed as some sort of agenda.


What I meant to say is that "character" is not a national thing, but just .. character. A polite person, that puts the other first is seen as a gentleman, outside and inside Britain. The transformation I was referring to is the transformation from "a national treat" to "a treat of a group of persons". And that's easy, because character already IS always a treat of a group of people, regardless their nationality.


I'm sure we can have amicable relations with countries throughout Europe without anyone losing their national identity or sovereignty.


In the not too distant future we will indeed be "of one planet" and our true nationality will be "mankind". This does not mean that we all will speak the same language, but we may in end up with learning at least ONE common world-wide language (probably Mandarin, Spanish or English). It does also not mean we will all do exactly the same things, but yes - as you can see in the world right now - we will have a kind of "common culture".


I like foreign cultures - I'm interested in them and often admire them. I'm never too fond of people in general but I think the 'flavour' of distant lands is fascinating. Even the difference in architectural styles tells a lot about the people and their mindset.


And mostly how isolated they have been. It remains to be seen if we can hang on to local customs, culture etc. in the greater context of an International culture. I believe we can, I believe that our "common culture" will provide a solid basis, but that communities - not "nations" - will provide differences. We can see this happening right now, in our bigger cities. Go to Londen and study the ants


Celebrating and appreciating each other is more my way of thinking but it needs to be reciprocal.


That would be great, but no, it needs not. You provide the example, others will or will not follow, but make sure you provide a good example, not a bad one. That's all you can do.



posted on Jul, 1 2016 @ 02:46 PM
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a reply to: ForteanOrg

Thank you. I've enjoyed our discussion.



posted on Jul, 1 2016 @ 03:56 PM
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a reply to: awareness10




somehow i knew you'd pull that on me. You always do, here.


Because that burden falls to you to explain it not me.



posted on Jul, 1 2016 @ 07:22 PM
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originally posted by: Leonidas
a reply to: seeker1963

So everything published under that banner is wrong. They are never right. Got it. Thanks for letting me know.


Unfortunately, there are some elites who exploit the poor.



posted on Jul, 3 2016 @ 03:19 AM
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originally posted by: Leonidas
When did "Elite" get redefined to mean "Bad"?

I worked long and hard not be at the mercy of others.


You ARE at the mercy of others.
The food industry people who make your food,
the power co-op workers who keep your lights on,
the plant workers who built your car up to government safety standards, the people at the water treatment plant who make sure there's no herpes in your shower water, the county DOT workers who fill the pot holes on your roads and pick the dead deer of the highway, the police or EMTs or fire department if you dial 911, AAA if you blow a tire and need roadside assistance, and your parents for concieving you happy little a$$.
Have a little respect, your majesty.



posted on Jul, 3 2016 @ 08:45 AM
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a reply to: tsurfer2000h

What Burden? I'm not burdened so why are you so taken with an answer from me. Every answer i give you will be replied with the same kind of remarks you reply with anyways. I think you know that already though don't you.




posted on Jul, 3 2016 @ 09:13 AM
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originally posted by: Leonidas
When did "Elite" get redefined to mean "Bad"?

I worked long and hard not be at the mercy of others.


Same time the ideal of American exceptionalism was demonized.

I think this started in the 80s or so? It still existed when I was growing up, but seemed to shift before I hit puberty. Maybe it was early 90s.



posted on Jul, 6 2016 @ 10:42 PM
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originally posted by: Plotus
This might interest some as well
libertyblitzkrieg.com...



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posted on Jul, 6 2016 @ 10:44 PM
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originally posted by: troubleshooter
a reply to: awareness10

The mindless thing was for the UK to go into the EU in the first place.


I agree 100%.

It should never have happened.




posted on Jul, 6 2016 @ 10:48 PM
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a reply to: ForteanOrg

Agreed!

Nice writeup well stated.



posted on Jul, 7 2016 @ 11:33 AM
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originally posted by: doobydoll

originally posted by: AndyMayhew
Some people stillthink Yes Minister/Prime Minister was a comedy ......

It's a true story.


aaahhh yes, gotta love that predictive programming.



posted on Sep, 18 2016 @ 01:54 AM
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a reply to: callmeanutcase2

yes not many people are aware of it when they see it,

but more so now than any other time so perhaps as it seems, a shift is taking place.




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