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originally posted by: DerBeobachter
a reply to: SprocketUK
You are right with filling a petition wouldn´t help.
But i guess we are at a time now, where nobody trusts any politicians anymore, because they are politicians.
And that for good reasons!
What was the money from the EU that should go to the british health care or whatever weakly, that Farrage promised?
So now even the hardest rightwingers start to distrust their "Führers"(xD).
In germay the AfD is dissambling itself, because of stupidity, as must be expected from those people. They only had a little high altitude flight because of the refugee situation, but since way less refugees are able to arrive the fortress middle europe, it´s going downwards with them.
Or maybe some of their supporters eventual read the AfD program and mentioned that they would become the first victims of this party, if elected.
When i listen to left politicians here in germany, they seem to be the most sane atm, naming the problems. Not only the refugee situation, but the things that lead to this sitation! But... it´s politicians, why on earth should i or one trust any of their words anymore? Since i live and since i am politically interested, those political brotherhoods did everything to make people distrust them, every single day, and proved later that it was right to distrust them!
So if you ask me, i wouldn´t know what to do now, the Titanic hit the iceberg, it´s too late.
Maybe we can just let it go all down the drain to start something new after that, whatever it will be. Learning from the mistakes that were made before. But did humans that ever in history?
As it is now, with this kind of "democracy" and it´s tools, i see not much other choices than to let that artificial object of a so called democracy(in germany called marketbased "democracy") crash to smithereens, that bad attempt of forming the United States of Europe, against the will of the european people.
The people need to take back the powers from the dirty hands of a little circle of greedy betrayers, the world needs to become more people friendly, social, instead of market-, bankster-, rich- and all that friendly!
I don´t hope so, but trying to be a realist, i guess hard times will come for europe now, because of that damned EU.
Bought some cans of food, have to bring them down into my bunker now(just joking, or not...?)
originally posted by: Xtrozero
originally posted by: ColCurious
a reply to: DerBeobachter
I just want to add this quote of Junckers from yesterdays Tagesschau, after demands were raised to let our Bundestag vote on CETA:
"The concept that only national parliaments hold democratic control (read: democratic legitimacy) debilitates the underlying idea of the EU."
What exactly is that idea then?
That is most likely a one Government for Europe. Might as well redraw the maps now and make all of Europe look like one big country.
originally posted by: Ohanka
Eurocrat Elite are the very definition of an oligarchy. They are accountable to no one. You have no choice on who becomes one. They persue their own collective agenda (mostly the furthering of their own power) and ideology totally unopposed. There are no statutes in place to stop these people.
If the EU is to have any future, and to become an organisation that serves the people of Europe rather than the interests of Eurocrats and their corporate friends then these parasites have to go.
Failing that, everyone should leave the EU. Let it collapse and let these people be but a footnote in the annals of history.
originally posted by: crazyewok
a reply to: LABTECH767
I think the EU needs tearing down and burning. Its to rotton.
But a knew body should take its place.
The original EU ideals were good. Its the beast it turned into that is the problem.
originally posted by: Cobaltic1978
a reply to: Denoli
We have been played my friend, but we have woken up.
The E.U is all about encouraging austerity whilst continuing to see inflated contributions from members.
It's an experiment to see how far they can push people before they turn. We have now turned and the doom and gloom is still being sold, expect short term punishment, with gain and freedom in the long term.
Let's get back to manufacturing, investing in the production of innovative products. Tariffs imposed by countries due to us being in the E.U, will now be renegotiated.