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Europeans call for Bruxit

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posted on Jun, 29 2016 @ 11:57 AM
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"We (UK) are at WAR with EU."
Sorry I have to change that.

The EU are at WAR with the UK.

but they dont use guns...yet!
they use intimidation and bullying.
they just keep threatening us. UK.

So now we have left they are still taking away UK Freedom!
Lets show them UK Still has the Best aeroplane in the wold
and Bomb them again. um! only joking...................

edit on 29-6-2016 by buddha because: why not




posted on Jun, 29 2016 @ 12:04 PM
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Filing a petition won't help you.
Your only hope is to join a political group that is fighting for your own referendum.

You are going to have to swallow some of your principles, but unless the EU is changed radically, none of your principles will be worth a damn.

The only way it'll change is when enough countries start the process of leaving that it becomes impossible for the EU to go on In it's current form.

I was a labour voter for most of my life, a union member for 20 years. I saw the way the EU was going and got behind UKIP like so many others. If it hadn't been for that party, with all it's problems, there would never have been a referendum in the UK.



posted on Jun, 29 2016 @ 12:07 PM
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a reply to: ColCurious
If i had to bet i would say to create a dictatorship placed under the umbrella of freedom and democracy, under the rule of the rich and because of that powerful. Because since the results of the Brexit referendum the EU-dictators, the politicians, the banksters, the multinational corporations, the financial markets, the big capital, the rich are going postal.

I didn´t see england sunk into the sea since that day, i see food growing in my backyard the same way as before the Brexit referendum, fire is as hot as before, water as wet. I didn´t have problems since the results to live my life as before, but others did, i named them before. Those who see their toy EU crashing, and all the nice profits to depot in Panama, Guernsey, the US, Luxemburg, the Netherlands and wherever all these taxdodger states are located.

Those who see their big brother european "superstate" crashing, as it did when it was Hitlers idea, back in the time.



posted on Jun, 29 2016 @ 12:38 PM
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a reply to: SprocketUK

You are right with filling a petition wouldn´t help.
But i guess we are at a time now, where nobody trusts any politicians anymore, because they are politicians.
And that for good reasons!

What was the money from the EU that should go to the british health care or whatever weakly, that Farrage promised?
So now even the hardest rightwingers start to distrust their "Führers"(xD).
In germay the AfD is dissambling itself, because of stupidity, as must be expected from those people. They only had a little high altitude flight because of the refugee situation, but since way less refugees are able to arrive the fortress middle europe, it´s going downwards with them.

Or maybe some of their supporters eventual read the AfD program and mentioned that they would become the first victims of this party, if elected.

When i listen to left politicians here in germany, they seem to be the most sane atm, naming the problems. Not only the refugee situation, but the things that lead to this sitation! But... it´s politicians, why on earth should i or one trust any of their words anymore? Since i live and since i am politically interested, those political brotherhoods did everything to make people distrust them, every single day, and proved later that it was right to distrust them!

So if you ask me, i wouldn´t know what to do now, the Titanic hit the iceberg, it´s too late.
Maybe we can just let it go all down the drain to start something new after that, whatever it will be. Learning from the mistakes that were made before. But did humans that ever in history?
As it is now, with this kind of "democracy" and it´s tools, i see not much other choices than to let that artificial object of a so called democracy(in germany called marketbased "democracy") crash to smithereens, that bad attempt of forming the United States of Europe, against the will of the european people.

The people need to take back the powers from the dirty hands of a little circle of greedy betrayers, the world needs to become more people friendly, social, instead of market-, bankster-, rich- and all that friendly!

I don´t hope so, but trying to be a realist, i guess hard times will come for europe now, because of that damned EU.
Bought some cans of food, have to bring them down into my bunker now(just joking, or not...?)



posted on Jun, 29 2016 @ 12:53 PM
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originally posted by: DerBeobachter
a reply to: SprocketUK

You are right with filling a petition wouldn´t help.
But i guess we are at a time now, where nobody trusts any politicians anymore, because they are politicians.
And that for good reasons!

What was the money from the EU that should go to the british health care or whatever weakly, that Farrage promised?
So now even the hardest rightwingers start to distrust their "Führers"(xD).
In germay the AfD is dissambling itself, because of stupidity, as must be expected from those people. They only had a little high altitude flight because of the refugee situation, but since way less refugees are able to arrive the fortress middle europe, it´s going downwards with them.

Or maybe some of their supporters eventual read the AfD program and mentioned that they would become the first victims of this party, if elected.

When i listen to left politicians here in germany, they seem to be the most sane atm, naming the problems. Not only the refugee situation, but the things that lead to this sitation! But... it´s politicians, why on earth should i or one trust any of their words anymore? Since i live and since i am politically interested, those political brotherhoods did everything to make people distrust them, every single day, and proved later that it was right to distrust them!

So if you ask me, i wouldn´t know what to do now, the Titanic hit the iceberg, it´s too late.
Maybe we can just let it go all down the drain to start something new after that, whatever it will be. Learning from the mistakes that were made before. But did humans that ever in history?
As it is now, with this kind of "democracy" and it´s tools, i see not much other choices than to let that artificial object of a so called democracy(in germany called marketbased "democracy") crash to smithereens, that bad attempt of forming the United States of Europe, against the will of the european people.

The people need to take back the powers from the dirty hands of a little circle of greedy betrayers, the world needs to become more people friendly, social, instead of market-, bankster-, rich- and all that friendly!

I don´t hope so, but trying to be a realist, i guess hard times will come for europe now, because of that damned EU.
Bought some cans of food, have to bring them down into my bunker now(just joking, or not...?)


Farage never promised it. The leave campaign in the UK was split between two groups. He was excluded from the one that made the 350 million a week claim.


If there really is no German version of UKIP, maybe you need to get on the social networks and organise people for a demo.

Pegida (whatever you think of it) started as nothing. It was Twitter and Facebook that made it gain numbers.
I bet that if you were to start out with just one policy, a referendum on German membership of the EU you would pick up people fast.
You don't even have to worry about standing for election for now, just call for Demos outside the Parliament and regional government centres.
If you get a few thousand every Tuesday night hurling red paint over the steps and shouting then it won't be long before you have tens, then hundreds of thousands... and at that point some reasonable party WILL see the votes there and back you.



posted on Jun, 29 2016 @ 12:53 PM
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originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: ColCurious
a reply to: DerBeobachter

I just want to add this quote of Junckers from yesterdays Tagesschau, after demands were raised to let our Bundestag vote on CETA:

"The concept that only national parliaments hold democratic control (read: democratic legitimacy) debilitates the underlying idea of the EU."

What exactly is that idea then?


That is most likely a one Government for Europe. Might as well redraw the maps now and make all of Europe look like one big country.


Except for the UK.

As usual the one to make a stand iN Europe when everyone goes full retard.



posted on Jun, 29 2016 @ 01:03 PM
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a reply to: DerBeobachter

I know that Junker is almost universally despised by many in Europe that keep track of the EU.

What happened in England was a mixture and mainly the problem was down to our own government's idiotic policy's - both the Tory's and there coalition period which did no good for the country and the former New Labour which made some lunatic decision's in implementing a type of Policy called Pro discrimination which in essence was to discriminated AGAINST the british in favour of non British National's of Ethnic's, of course this fostered intolerance and hatred in people.

It is far too complex a mess to blame on that one little tinpot dictator that Junker think's he is and whom of course takes his order's from the Bilderberg's.

We need to keep europe but not as it is and I think the Brexit bad or good for the UK may have been the only way to shock the other members into realizing it has gone too far in the wrong direction and need's radical reform, Brussels power need' abolition and a true democratic elected system need's to be put in place, europe also desperately need's to consolidate it's exterior borders and stop the flow of econimic migrant's from outside the EU member state's, they also need to make certain that shared ideal's, living standards' and law's are applied and have been for over twenty years before a new member state can even apply to join.

The Speed of the expansion is what tipped the balance and for people in many nations it was also the influx of non european migrant's especially those seeding the islamic culture within what were mature christian based culture's and so creating alienation within those society's.

Now think on this, the UK was not even the most EU skeptic country, in fact there are other core EU nation's that if given a referendum are far more likely to return majority against EU membership than than the UK ever was especially given the short political memory of the UK populace which is about 5 minute's on most thing's.

The Netherland's is one that may return an exit vote, there is growing anti EU sentiment even in france and of course the very heart of the EU Germany has had enough and many there now want there own referendum though as yet not a majority but a growing percentage nontheless.

A totaly breakup of the EU would however be an unmitigated disaster so let's homw that a compromise is reached and in the intersts of that long term point I truly think that the leaders of France, Germany and Belgium need to look again at there stance on non negotiation with the UK or they are litterally storing up more problems' for themselves in the future as there are very good odd's on other nation's leaving the block or reducing there ties to it.

Now the UK has to try to mend our commonwealth link's after all but abandoning them because of EU mandate's, we had a very powerful trading block of our own and have actually lost out economically as a result of EU meddling in the Commonwealth and our external trade agreement's.

And now that clown Cameron has stepped down maybe we can get our navy back to help to provide support to our commonwealth family when they need it such as in there current territorial disputes with China.



posted on Jun, 29 2016 @ 01:05 PM
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The Bilderbergers trying to grasp full power of Europe before other countries exit.

Juncker is an arrogant unelected President of an entity that is falling apart.

He wants to eradicate nationalist parties, because he nows without them, no one will speak up for the common man and their concerns regarding the undemocratic entity that is the E.U.

Instead of telling truths about their plans for a super state, they will enforce it on the Europeans, overnight.

Juncker is poison, toxic and needs to be removed for the sakes of the European citizens.
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posted on Jun, 29 2016 @ 01:09 PM
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Now this:

The two Lux Leaks(Hello there, Jean Claude...) whistleblowers were condemned to suspendend sentences.

Ok, they didn´t punish them too hard this time, but i guess only because the EUlitists don´t need the riots TONIGHT...

It´s a joke to kill the messengers, but business as usual...
Everything goes on as we know it...



posted on Jun, 29 2016 @ 01:10 PM
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a reply to: LABTECH767

I think the EU needs tearing down and burning. Its to rotton.

But a knew body should take its place.

The original EU ideals were good. Its the beast it turned into that is the problem.



posted on Jun, 29 2016 @ 01:12 PM
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It's just like a gambler losing a quarter of his stack , and now his on tilt !

Only one way this is gonna end !

The quicker out the better !

By the time the EU has found its feet we will be sat watching

BAILOUT AFTER BAILOUT AFTER BAILOUT .

Sometimes a short term loss is a long term gain !
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posted on Jun, 29 2016 @ 01:22 PM
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originally posted by: Ohanka
Eurocrat Elite are the very definition of an oligarchy. They are accountable to no one. You have no choice on who becomes one. They persue their own collective agenda (mostly the furthering of their own power) and ideology totally unopposed. There are no statutes in place to stop these people.

If the EU is to have any future, and to become an organisation that serves the people of Europe rather than the interests of Eurocrats and their corporate friends then these parasites have to go.

Failing that, everyone should leave the EU. Let it collapse and let these people be but a footnote in the annals of history.


Eu reform? How can they do that when they have more important tnings to legislate!




posted on Jun, 29 2016 @ 01:22 PM
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This business of the £350m to spend on the health service every week when we left the EU.

I didn't see where or when it was said or by whom but, surely, it's the press who are whipping up ill-feeling about it?

Anyone could stop and realise that whoever campaigned for Brexit was in no position to allocate that money anywhere. Surely, it would be the job of the Chancellor of the day to spend the country's money as s/he saw fit. Not some campaigner in a TV studio.

If journalists are trying to promote the idea that the Brexit side is now back-tracking on a promise then aren't they being mischievous?

If journalists didn't challenge the 'promise' (if it was made) at the time then perhaps they weren't doing their job properly.

Anyway, the idea seems to have taken hold and probably needs to be challenged. Perhaps someone else can make a better job of it.



posted on Jun, 29 2016 @ 01:23 PM
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originally posted by: crazyewok
a reply to: LABTECH767

I think the EU needs tearing down and burning. Its to rotton.

But a knew body should take its place.

The original EU ideals were good. Its the beast it turned into that is the problem.


It's nowhere near the beast the Bilderbergers hope it will become.

With the U.K going rogue, the Globalists cannot afford to have a socialist at the helm in the U.K, hence the coup on Corbyn. They are trying to maintain a hold on the U.K in the hope that within three months our lives will be in such turmoil that we will be begging to stay in the club.

Corbyn went against his convictions in order to keep the party United, yet as soon as the elites didn't get their way, the knives were out. Labour M.P's do not accept democracy it appears, so if he goes, UKIP will get my vote, as they will be the only party looking out for the British people.



posted on Jun, 29 2016 @ 01:37 PM
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a reply to: berenike

The MSM in this country is controlled by the elitists and they are doing everything they can to make the leave campaign look dodgy.

Let's be honest, the £350 million per week claims were incorrect, most people I know who voted leave knew this. In truth the real figure is around £150-175 million per week after rebates and ESF funding of projects in the U.K.

That's still a lot of money that the E.U receive each week, just for allowing us to access the single market. But, they weren't happy with the money alone, oh no. They imposed free movement of Europeans, whilst allowing countries with economic problems to join the club. They have interfered with countries laws, ensuring the European Courts supersede any sovereign laws, whilst the law makers are unelected.



posted on Jun, 29 2016 @ 02:13 PM
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Forget the 350m !

We put in more then we get out !

I ain't an economist but that's a red flag for me !

And what is it ?
THE EU STATES ARE TURNING INTO WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE BANKING SYSTEM !


Sick of hearing bailout bailout !

We're still bailing out the bankers

AND WERES THE BANKERS NOW LOL

It's like trying to catch a chicken covered in baby oil

And the funny think is in the budget for austerity they gave the bankers a 10% tax break lol

While cutting disabled benefits .


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posted on Jun, 29 2016 @ 02:54 PM
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We have been played my friend, but we have woken up.

The E.U is all about encouraging austerity whilst continuing to see inflated contributions from members.

It's an experiment to see how far they can push people before they turn. We have now turned and the doom and gloom is still being sold, expect short term punishment, with gain and freedom in the long term.

Let's get back to manufacturing, investing in the production of innovative products. Tariffs imposed by countries due to us being in the E.U, will now be renegotiated.




posted on Jun, 29 2016 @ 03:02 PM
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originally posted by: Cobaltic1978
a reply to: Denoli

We have been played my friend, but we have woken up.

The E.U is all about encouraging austerity whilst continuing to see inflated contributions from members.

It's an experiment to see how far they can push people before they turn. We have now turned and the doom and gloom is still being sold, expect short term punishment, with gain and freedom in the long term.

Let's get back to manufacturing, investing in the production of innovative products. Tariffs imposed by countries due to us being in the E.U, will now be renegotiated.



Spot on !

We need to get a deal sorted with the EU,before the rest !
because they will just tariff on the coat tails of our deals on the outside.
making us a middle man to the rest of the world .
But we should hold firm play it hard and we will be the envy of the world.



posted on Jun, 29 2016 @ 03:26 PM
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See that's what happens when you sell the family silver .

You sell the jobs that go with it .

We should spent more on research and development .

Make our mines or our wind farms profitable, by investing.

But everything goes through a middle man , who in turn takes a slice of the cake .

And who is the middle man ?

Politicians !
Bankers !
All there cousins ,aunties , uncles .

Funny how secret society's ain't that secret .



posted on Jun, 29 2016 @ 03:52 PM
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Is all of Europe in rebellion against Brussels?Sounds like it.



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