Turkey Attack Likely A CIA...NATO...Turkey Black Operation

a reply to: Willtell

So what is this grand conspiracy this false flag is to facilitate? Throwing Assad out? Being complicit in supporting ISIS?? Having two extremely unavoidable, infeasible options has long been known. You're EXTREMELY naive if you believe they're any win/lose, much win/win, options. Tell us, grand chief in strategic options, in a factionalized Iraq and a civil war-torn Syria, what should be done by the US in response to alleviate your paranoid premise of a false flag?

originally posted by: Willtell

Plans for Middle East - U.S. Army Gen. Wesley Clark

there IS A STSATE DEPARTMENT AND CIA finding to destroy Syria and 4 other Arab countries that still going on

Isis IS A PART OF THAT BLACK OPERATION

Obama IS A FAKE, HES PLAYING ALONG WIHT THIS SECRET OPERATION

One of the few things we can agree on.

You seem so confused. Maybe you are unaware that Turkey has has a series of attacks like this over the last couple of years. It will be one of two likely groups the PKK or ISIS. Neither of which would lead to attacking Assad. More than likely it was ISIS as a response to Turkey and Israels normalisation agreement. ISIS in Syria is on its last leg and then all those rebels are going after Assad. The US and Turkey do not need an excuse or a false flag if they decide to support them.

originally posted by: MrSpad
You seem so confused. Maybe you are unaware that Turkey has has a series of attacks like this over the last couple of years. It will be one of two likely groups the PKK or ISIS. Neither of which would lead to attacking Assad. More than likely it was ISIS as a response to Turkey and Israels normalisation agreement. ISIS in Syria is on its last leg and then all those rebels are going after Assad. The US and Turkey do not need an excuse or a false flag if they decide to support them.

Not to mention Isis crosses the border all the time. This was a message Isis thinks Turkey is an apostate regime. That has allied itself with the west or like they said in one announcement the crusaders. Who said the crusades ended huh??

originally posted by: dragonridr

originally posted by: MrSpad
You seem so confused. Maybe you are unaware that Turkey has has a series of attacks like this over the last couple of years. It will be one of two likely groups the PKK or ISIS. Neither of which would lead to attacking Assad. More than likely it was ISIS as a response to Turkey and Israels normalisation agreement. ISIS in Syria is on its last leg and then all those rebels are going after Assad. The US and Turkey do not need an excuse or a false flag if they decide to support them.

Not to mention Isis crosses the border all the time. This was a message Isis thinks Turkey is an apostate regime. That has allied itself with the west or like they said in one announcement the crusaders. Who said the crusades ended huh??

Yeah well I really think that Turkey and Israel restoring ties is the tipping point for this attack, Bad enough the Turks are in bed the Crusaders but, now they are back in bed with the Jews. That is going to get a reaction from ISIS.

a reply to: Shamrock6

Prima facia means face value, or rather at first glance until proven otherwise. The op actually is implying that the cia controls cnn and whenever a cia analyst blames a group the cia is responsible.

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

The great thing about the antagonist in his story is that even the act that pointing out his story is a story becomes proof that he must be on the right track. Someone should pitch a new History channel TV show about the "False-Flaggers." The fact is, even Ancient Aliens never goes down the rabbit hole of "THEY" are responsible for everything, everywhere. It's the standard god-delusion parable, writ large for the information age: everything that happens is actually a control-matrix absolving the believer of all personal responsibility.

Shooting somewhere? THEY did it. Terrorist D-Bags blow up an airport? THEM again! 15 million people decide to vote themselves out of a fledgling supernation? THOSE rotten bastards planned it like that. Others vote to stay IN? You guessed it! THEY are the ones pulling the strings.

If YOU don't believe it? Nothing but proof that you are paid to disinfo it on ATS, which is -- also controlled by them, obviously.

It's utterly transparent. We are meat-robots, dancing the reality-roller coaster. Even our opposition to the idea that there is an impossibly vast, interconnected opposition to oppose is exposed as proof that THEY are playing us, about everything.

It must be exhausting. I would never willingly make myself so small.

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin


Anyone else starting to think that whenever anything significant happens there are just some people on ATS who want to get the first "it was a false flag" thread in to grab a few flags?

This is ATS....

originally posted by: Willtell

originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: Willtell

So somebody talking on CNN about this being a terrorist attack is "prima facie evidence" that its a CIA job?

Either you don't understand the meaning of that term, or you have an incredibly low threshold for what you consider proof.

That's just the tip of the iceberg.


You look for the signs in the MSM for how the behind the scenes masters are running the propaganda show

If you don't understand that then, with all due respect, your being naive

Should I use numerology?

a reply to: humanityrising

Where it seems anything and everything is caused by the world owning CIA.

a reply to: Willtell

So no actual evidence to back the claim just the lying western media that only tells the truth when it fits your agenda...imagine that.

a reply to: Shamrock6

Yes as it is the only way to find the truth...

a reply to: Willtell

The Syrian Chemical Weapons Attack Was a False Flag By Turkey and ISIS Two members of the Turkish parliament gave a press conference in October saying that they have wiretapped recordings and other evidence showing that Turkey supplied the sarin used in Syria. As reported by Turkey’s largest newspapers, Today’s Zaman: www.washingtonsblog.com...

The Syrian Chemical Weapons Attack Was a False Flag By Turkey and ISIS

Those Chemical attacks are still being investigated. The Assad regime is still being deemed responsible especially for the deadly Sarin attack in Eastern Ghouta.

The most devastating chemical attack was carried out by the Assad government in August 2013 in the besieged Eastern Ghouta, a sprawling agricultural hinterland near Damascus. The attack used sarin gas and may have killed more than 1,000 civilians.

Nearly 1,500 people have been killed in chemical weapons attacks in Syria during the five-year civil war, according to a report that highlights the uninhibited ferocity of the conflict. The attacks amount to a strategic policy to displace civilians in opposition-controlled territory, the report by the Syrian-American Medical Society (Sams) concludes. The vast majority of the documented attacks and the ensuing civilian casualties were perpetrated by the government of Bashar al-Assad, it says.

The report documents 161 chemical attacks in Syria, details of which were gathered from doctors operating on the ground in the areas that bore the brunt of chemical warfare, and which led to the deaths of 1,491 people and 14,581 injuries due to exposure to chemicals. More than a third of the attacks used chlorine gas, and the vast majority of those came after a UN security council resolution condemning its use. A further 133 reported attacks could not be fully verified by the organisation, which works with about 100 health facilities in Syria. The report’s release came as peace talks in Geneva brokered by the US and Russia begin almost five years to the day since protests against Assad erupted in the city of Deraa. The conflict has since led to the killing of almost 500,000 people by some accounts, and displaced half of the country’s population. The most devastating chemical attack was carried out by the Assad government in August 2013 in the besieged Eastern Ghouta, a sprawling agricultural hinterland near Damascus. The attack used sarin gas and may have killed more than 1,000 civilians.

www.theguardian.com...

the Istanbul terrorist bombs by 3 armed killers... were likely volunteers... the inner circle of IS leaders want to both celebrate the 2nd anniversary of the declaration of the Caliphate (aka; is/isis)

the other reason will be to try to draw Russia into attacking Istanbul to reclaim the formerly Christian City which is the official capitol city of Orthodox Christianity... the Orthodox Partiarch Bartholomew 1 has his official residence there and Russia will intervene to protect the Orthodox Patriarch from harm and Russia will occupy the city to protect the Hagia Sophia Cathedral which was once a Christian Cathedral (much like St Peter's in the Vatican is to Roman Catholics)

Putin knows that IS/ISIS the Caliphate will eventually try to destroy ancient religious edifices/sites like they have done dozens of times in the middle east deserts.... Russia will encamp Istanbul (Constantinople) to protect the Orthodox Heritage from the forces of Gog-Magog (incl; USA, Islam, IS, NATO, Sunni Jihadists...all the hoards of magog)

a reply to: MrSpad

...ISIS in Syria is on its last leg and then all those rebels are going after Assad.
The US and Turkey do not need an excuse or a false flag if they decide to support them.

IS-ISIS is a USA proxy army (on the surface)... but the 'Caliphate' aspect of IS does their-own-thing too, independent of the usa-great-satan...

my lower post explains the Caliphate (IS) punctuated the 2nd Anniversary of the Caliphate (29 June)
and will most likely do another 'punctuation event' on 4 July the Anniversary of installing Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi as Caliph


there is also a longer range scheme being fashioned by the Istanbul terror attacks... it involves Russia, the Hagia Sophia Cathedral, Patriarch Bartholomew 1 the annexation of Ancient Constantinople from Turkish-Islamic control

a reply to: elementalgrove

It is not that difficult to conceive that this could be a false flag.

If you look closely I am not saying this was not or could not have been a false flag.

What I am ranting about is that there seems to be a race on ATS after every major world event to cry false flag with out the slightest bit of evidence. I am of the view that if you really do believe that this attack was a false flag and that you are going promote this "conspiracy theory" in a public forum then the burden is on you to present your views backed up with logic and solid facts that support a view that this was a false flag. However ATS has become lazy, just writing a couple of paragraphs seems to be enough to start the ball rolling on the false flag bandwagon even though there is zero evidence to support it.

Unless you or anyone else can show me a logical and factual argument that supports that this was a false flag backed up with hard evidence. Without this then the claim that this was false flag is just as valid as my opinion that the dolphins of the world are planning a uprising that will lead to the fall of humanity as mankind will be forced to bow down before the sea lords.

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Unless you or anyone else can show me a logical and factual argument that supports that this was a false flag backed up with hard evidence.

Never going to happen.

This is just another way for the OP to bash the US and blame this on them and the CIA...nothing new for the OP I am afraid.

It's common knowledge the CIA is responsible for all terror acts that happen in the world...just ask many on here will tell you. I guarantee it.

What's even funnier is the fact the US government can't even deal with it's own problems at home because of their incompetence, but somehow we are capable and competent enough to pull off all terror related events that happen worldwide.

(adjusting tinfoil hat)

Hey, I got it...Billary did it to distract from yesterday's release of the final report on Benghazi! Look...shiny object![/sarcasm]

Wait...ummm, that could actually be true.

a reply to: Willtell

Another "coincidence" ?

Bad things happen when your open the door to Israel.

Turkey, Israel Sign Deal to Normalize Diplomatic Relations

Turkey and Israel signed a deal on Tuesday to restore ties after a six-year rift, formalizing an agreement which U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon said sent a "hopeful signal" for regional stability.

The accord was a rare rapprochement in the divided Middle East, driven by the prospect of lucrative Mediterranean gas deals as well as mutual fears over growing security risks.

Seems fishy to me...

You know there are bad , evil, terrible people in the world that are not controlled by the CIA right?

Seems to be a few posters here that refuse to believe that.