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Trey Gowdy news conference on Benghazi

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posted on Jun, 28 2016 @ 11:27 AM
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originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: Wardaddy454
Hillary Damge Control Team:

Introvert- Check

Sillyolme- Check

Buster2010- Check

Gryphon66- Check
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Still Awaiting

Reldra

KrazyShot

Sremmos80

mOjOm
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Anyone I'm missing?


Its clear that the administration didnt want a black spot on its legacy and a losing debate point in the 2012 election.

She calls it a terrorist attack in an email to her daughter, yet tells the public its the fault of a video.
At the very least she does not deserve consideration for the highest office.

Also, is the video maker still locked up? And on what crime exactly?


No need for damage control. The report appears to not be the smoking gun ya'll had hoped for.

And that is why you are focusing on us, personally, instead of the report.



Well the comitee was asked to investigate Benghazi, not Clinton. The fact the you all are pointing out " whoops no smoking gun in Clinton's hand" is telling.


The Right Wing has made this about Hillary the entire time. That is why we have been hearing the same lines against her since this happened.

Are you going to deny that the Right Wing nut wanted to use Benghazi to fry Hillary?


Are you going to deny that lack of action is culpability?


Not when it's already been known that there was not much, if anything, they could have done.


But there was. They had thriteen hours to do something, but they spent that time worrying about optics. She said Stevens was her friend, and she didnt try hard enough to help him.




posted on Jun, 28 2016 @ 11:27 AM
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originally posted by: Wardaddy454

Cool, mOjOm thinks I'm lame!

I love being provocative


Well, you made the list, not me.

It's not my fault you're list is wrong.



posted on Jun, 28 2016 @ 11:29 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: mOjOm

"It's an honor to be nominated."

LOL

Hillary, in my estimation, is center Right, overall. She's a life-long politician with all the negatives that implies.

Still, with all the issues, she's better than an bloviating ego maniac who thinks he's buying another company instead of running for the highest office in the land.


Lol Hillary isnt anything but what she thinks is useful at the time in a 24h news cycle. She's Cookie Monster when it comes to the White House.



posted on Jun, 28 2016 @ 11:30 AM
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a reply to: shooterbrody


Who was in charge when this event happened?
This was a result of Obamas foreign policy was it not?
Foreign policy that was to be executed by the administrations chief foreign policy adviser, the Secretary of State.

So who else would be responsible for this event?


Who would be responsible for the "event?"

How about the Islamic militants who attacked the compound in Benghazi?

What you're saying is no different than saying that Bush 43 was responsible for the various attacks on embassies/missions during his presidency or 9/11 or that Roosevelt was responsible for Pearl Harbor instead of the Japanese.



posted on Jun, 28 2016 @ 11:31 AM
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originally posted by: mOjOm

originally posted by: Wardaddy454

Cool, mOjOm thinks I'm lame!

I love being provocative


Well, you made the list, not me.

It's not my fault you're list is wrong.


I'm glad the list is getting so much attention, exactly what I wanted it to do


Just using the tactics I learned from the left!



posted on Jun, 28 2016 @ 11:35 AM
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a reply to: Wardaddy454

Right. Nice Deflection. The Party of Personal Responsibility, remember???

LOLOLOL

I love how Your Incorrect List is now either My Fault or the Fault of the Left. Genius. Good luck with that.



posted on Jun, 28 2016 @ 11:36 AM
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a reply to: Wardaddy454

exactly what you wanted to do? Deflect the idiocracy surrounding the Benghazi investigation to something that makes absolutely no sense?




edit on 28-6-2016 by veracity because: How very republican of you



posted on Jun, 28 2016 @ 11:38 AM
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a reply to: Wardaddy454

Oooo ... "Hillary is like Cookie Monster."

You should send that one in to Trump ... that sounds like him.



posted on Jun, 28 2016 @ 11:43 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Wardaddy454

Oooo ... "Hillary is like Cookie Monster."

You should send that one in to Trump ... that sounds like him.



Can you prove that Hillary is not politically motivated in anything she does? I'll wait.



posted on Jun, 28 2016 @ 11:47 AM
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originally posted by: mOjOm
a reply to: Wardaddy454

Right. Nice Deflection. The Party of Personal Responsibility, remember???

LOLOLOL

I love how Your Incorrect List is now either My Fault or the Fault of the Left. Genius. Good luck with that.


Lol Thank you.



posted on Jun, 28 2016 @ 11:52 AM
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originally posted by: veracity
a reply to: Wardaddy454

exactly what you wanted to do? Deflect the idiocracy surrounding the Benghazi investigation to something that makes absolutely no sense?





No. Where did you get that? No this list was to poke and prod a little at the people I know come in to a thread, and dismiss the subject if they disagree with it. Notice how no one has claimed to begin reading the report? Yet they Know there is nothing new in it. He essentially said "don't take my word for it (because you guys will think its a witch hunt anyway), read the report and come to your own conclusions". But They know, because Gowdy "didn't say anything new".
edit on 28-6-2016 by Wardaddy454 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 28 2016 @ 11:53 AM
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originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Wardaddy454

Oooo ... "Hillary is like Cookie Monster."

You should send that one in to Trump ... that sounds like him.



Can you prove that Hillary is not politically motivated in anything she does? I'll wait.


On the contrary, as a politician, she's very likely motivated by politics in everything she does.

Nine investigations have proven that there is NOTHING THAT COULD HAVE BEEN DONE IN BENGHAZI.

But, keep harping on it... you're just boosting her poll numbers.



posted on Jun, 28 2016 @ 11:53 AM
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am I the only one that is blaming Amb. Stevens for this?....here was a man that had worked in that area for decades, had probably been in many iffy and dangerous situations before, and had been lucky up to that point....he therefore calculated that he would be able to go to Benghazi with minimal protection, but this time he was wrong. he knew that the country was in chaos, and he also knew that it would be prudent for him to stay in Tripoli, because that embassy was much better protected, he himself took the risk, and this time his luck ran out.

as a side note....there were 13 embassy attacks under Bush, resulting in 60 deaths.....but this attack was under a democratic presidents tenure, and had Hillary as SoS. there was more time was spent on the Benghazi investigation, than the 9/11 investigation, or ANY of those other embassy attacks......

after 25 years of attacks on Hillary, being accused of everything from murder to wearing pant suits, republican's credibility (for me) is gone. it's like the boy who cried wolf too many times......nobody listens or believes anymore



posted on Jun, 28 2016 @ 11:54 AM
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originally posted by: buster2010
Actually the nitwit admitted the reports were a failure.
Trey Gowdy Just Accidentally Admitted That The House Benghazi Report Is A Total Failure


The resulting report was an 800-page long rehash of various Republican conspiracies and allegations. The facts that Gowdy pointed to don’t back up anything that Republicans have been claiming about Benghazi for years. There no evidence of criminal activity or a criminal conspiracy. Republicans conclude in their biased partisan opinion that things “should have been known,” but they present no real evidence to back up their claims. The press release on the report was pure damage control spin, as the emphasis was placed on generating a lot of pages in the hope that the volume of the report could disguise its lack of substance. Gowdy defended the report by practically begging the American people to read it, which points to what the real motivation for the investigation has always been. Republicans wasted millions of taxpayer dollars on a publicity effort to get voters interested in a conspiracy theory.


It always makes me giggle when somebody complains about partisan rhetoric while simultaneously using their own partisan rhetoric.

But it's different, I swear!



posted on Jun, 28 2016 @ 11:57 AM
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a reply to: Wardaddy454

Who would want to waste their time reading an 800 page report of BS?

If and ONLY if she gets handcuffed...will I read the report, otherwise, its nothing, just as the other investigations.

edit on 28-6-2016 by veracity because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 28 2016 @ 12:01 PM
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a reply to: Shamrock6

Is there a way to engage partisan rhetoric without engaging in partisan rhetoric?

Sounds like a Zen koan.




posted on Jun, 28 2016 @ 12:02 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Wardaddy454

Oooo ... "Hillary is like Cookie Monster."

You should send that one in to Trump ... that sounds like him.



Can you prove that Hillary is not politically motivated in anything she does? I'll wait.


On the contrary, as a politician, she's very likely motivated by politics in everything she does.

Nine investigations have proven that there is NOTHING THAT COULD HAVE BEEN DONE IN BENGHAZI.

But, keep harping on it... you're just boosting her poll numbers.





On the contrary, as a politician, she's very likely motivated by politics in everything she does.


Exactly. So she knew it was an attack, and did nothing. Because there was nothing that could have been done? No. Because it would have looked bad to have to go in and do anything. It was a 13 hour seige, they has assets in northern Italy that could have refuled in Sigonella, and ran sorties out of there.



posted on Jun, 28 2016 @ 12:04 PM
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a reply to: Wardaddy454

Ask yourself this question, as a little exercise.

Considering the following:

The current leadership is Democrat,

There is an election in the offing soon(ish),

Lots of work went into this report, allegedly,

What possible reason could the authors of this report, the committee of persons who spent a considerable time repeating themselves and not making any staggering revelations of any kind, have for burying the lead here? What could make even the most restrained political entity or individual, avoid stating, in public, when given a platform to do so, the actual key findings of the report, if they had any merit, weight, or importance what so ever? If there is a point to which the members of the committee are trying to get, in any of the 800 pages they have compiled, why withhold the punchline, when they KNOW that the electorate may not have the patience or the inclination to read the entire article itself?

Now, I have an answer which fits the facts, and that answer is that there is nothing new in the document, because no political entity or member of a committee with this much of a fire under its arse, would restrain themselves from announcing the most crucial findings, the evidenciary proof of those findings, and how they came to their conclusions. They would not be able to resist, gloatingly parading the smoking gun all over the place, getting it photographed, getting it sent up as an image in Times Square on a light board, it would be on every news network. The smoking gun and the ballistics report to match to it, would be the most publicised thing this year. It would make the British exit from the EU look like a local paper headline, something akin to "Milkman saves pet bunny rabbit from untimely death" or some such dross.



posted on Jun, 28 2016 @ 12:05 PM
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Trey Gowdy is a lawyer and far beyond the intellectual level of the average poster here.

"He refused to blame Clinton", many here are saying, so as to say the 800 pages exonerate the Obama administration.

What he actually said was closer to "She had a bloody hammer and her husband was beaten to death. I'm not saying she killed him but read the report and determine the facts for yourself".

He is a lawyer and knows better than to poison the well. He also knows what to say, when, and how. He isn't going to get himself in trouble unlike other lawyers who have already lost their license or been disbarred.

I do love how so many people have read 800 pages and know what's in it already and can form such solid opinions.



posted on Jun, 28 2016 @ 12:07 PM
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originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Wardaddy454

Oooo ... "Hillary is like Cookie Monster."

You should send that one in to Trump ... that sounds like him.



Can you prove that Hillary is not politically motivated in anything she does? I'll wait.


On the contrary, as a politician, she's very likely motivated by politics in everything she does.

Nine investigations have proven that there is NOTHING THAT COULD HAVE BEEN DONE IN BENGHAZI.

But, keep harping on it... you're just boosting her poll numbers.





On the contrary, as a politician, she's very likely motivated by politics in everything she does.


Exactly. So she knew it was an attack, and did nothing. Because there was nothing that could have been done? No. Because it would have looked bad to have to go in and do anything. It was a 13 hour seige, they has assets in northern Italy that could have refuled in Sigonella, and ran sorties out of there.


Perfect example of faulty debate.

My assertion that "Clinton is political" does nothing to prove that "she knew it was an attack and did nothing."

In fact, Nine investigations demonstrate clearly that there was nothing to be done.

But, as usual, you jump on two totally unrelated statements and try to prove something illogical.

On the contrary, it would have been far better for her political career (and Obama's) to raze Benghazi to the ground.

Instead, they did what they could meticulously, let the investigations do their work, found the one's responsible and punished them and discovered a great deal more about what was going on than merely "kickin' dere asses."

Still on the bench for you, I guess.





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