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The Trump Vs Hillary for President thread.

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posted on Jun, 27 2016 @ 10:01 PM
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a reply to: amazing

Seriously Trump never built anything?? Have you ever been to New York they owe Trump big time. He helped rebuild New York. Funny how prole don't understand what Trump does. Hrs a developer not a financier like Warren Buffett. He buys an area decides what should be built there and his company begins construction. What he does is get contractors and manages the building project. This isn't easy in large building contracts you can have hundreds of contractors.

His first building project were Grand Hyatt Hotel, Trump Tower, and Trump Plaza. He borrowed 1 million from dad and secured another 100 million in business loans for thr project. These properties of course made money. From there went in to golf courses and luxury resorts. By this point he was a billionaire. To say he didn't earn the money is silly. Amd the reason I laugh when they talk about his bankruptcy is he is owner of 515 firms in which he is involved in , 268 have "Trump" in the company title. So when people say Trump went bankrupt they are talking 4 out of 268 he currently owns. What makes Trump difrent from warren buffett is he doesn't use his name his company Is called Berkshire Hathaway,when he files for chapter 14 or sells off a company by breakING it apart people don't associate it with him.




posted on Jun, 27 2016 @ 10:04 PM
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a reply to: BubbaJoe

We shall see, lots will happen between now and then.



posted on Jun, 27 2016 @ 10:06 PM
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originally posted by: intrepid
IDK why. The tone in America today? Whomever gets elected this year I have a feeling that they won't live out the term. That's sad. Ya'll should look up the word "empathy". You need it BIG time.


I agree with your sentiment fully.



posted on Jun, 27 2016 @ 10:09 PM
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originally posted by: nwtrucker
a reply to: BubbaJoe

We shall see, lots will happen between now and then.



Yeah we will see, my heart hopes for a very legitimate third party challenger, but don't see that happening.



posted on Jun, 27 2016 @ 10:10 PM
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a reply to: dragonridr


There is a definite issue with the MSM not highlighting Trumps track record and marginalizing Hillary's.


That's where the campaign funds becomes a huge issue for Trump. With the MSM siding with Hillary, they can paint any picture they want without much countering.


Trump has his work cut out for himself. He hates to lose, that's for sure...



posted on Jun, 27 2016 @ 10:15 PM
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originally posted by: nwtrucker
a reply to: dragonridr


There is a definite issue with the MSM not highlighting Trumps track record and marginalizing Hillary's.


That's where the campaign funds becomes a huge issue for Trump. With the MSM siding with Hillary, they can paint any picture they want without much countering.


Trump has his work cut out for himself. He hates to lose, that's for sure...



I am not so sure that Trump's track record is all that good, Hillary is no prize, but she has been vetted for 30 years, we are just starting to vet Trump. I am seriously thinking about voting 3rd party this time, so they can get some funding in 4 years.



posted on Jun, 27 2016 @ 10:15 PM
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The more I think about it, the more the third party option seems a stretch. At least in this election cycle.

What position do they take, or even call themselves? More importantly, why would we trust the new batch any more than the two we're stuck with? Disaffected
GOPers? Really? Call themselves Demopublicans? That batch has already lost to their own base!!


An outright socialist party? That tack didn't/couldn't/ never intended to win in their own turf. Not gonna work.


Nope we are stuck with the two, methinks.



posted on Jun, 27 2016 @ 10:35 PM
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originally posted by: nwtrucker
a reply to: BubbaJoe


The more I think about it, the more the third party option seems a stretch. At least in this election cycle.

What position do they take, or even call themselves? More importantly, why would we trust the new batch any more than the two we're stuck with? Disaffected
GOPers? Really? Call themselves Demopublicans? That batch has already lost to their own base!!


An outright socialist party? That tack didn't/couldn't/ never intended to win in their own turf. Not gonna work.


Nope we are stuck with the two, methinks.


I am thinking those of us in the middle, socially liberal, economically conservative, there is no one representing us, I do believe we are a large voting block, but too busy trying to live our lives to get involved.



posted on Jun, 27 2016 @ 10:59 PM
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I have a bit of a problem with that description...not trying to be negative....but that seems outdated. Conservatives, which I called myself before Trump, have as a mainstay 'Free trade'. IMO that'd done us more damage than any enemy has even done to us.

Open borders? One would call that a liberal stance, also hurts the job market and wages, in general.

It's seems too simple to say social liberal and fiscal conservative, especially when both parties aren't very social-at least to those outside their agendas- and certainly aren't fiscally sane....


I think of myself as centrist, to right of it. That's how I see Trump, by and large. Especially when one keeps in mind he's a 'promoter' first and foremost and a 'negotiator' behind the scenes. Hence the rhetoric....negotiate from positions of strength....downward...



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posted on Jun, 27 2016 @ 11:04 PM
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originally posted by: MotherMayEye
a reply to: nwtrucker

Not voting or voting for a third party is the most ethical decision, IMO.

I won't be an accessory to the two party crime spree.



That's your call. While it may not apply to you, per say, I see not voting as a self-disqualification process for those that cannot differentiate and judging by the Reids, Pelosis and McCains long political lives, there's already too many who DO vote....



posted on Jun, 27 2016 @ 11:08 PM
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originally posted by: nwtrucker
a reply to: BubbaJoe


The more I think about it, the more the third party option seems a stretch. At least in this election cycle.

What position do they take, or even call themselves? More importantly, why would we trust the new batch any more than the two we're stuck with? Disaffected
GOPers? Really? Call themselves Demopublicans? That batch has already lost to their own base!!


An outright socialist party? That tack didn't/couldn't/ never intended to win in their own turf. Not gonna work.


Nope we are stuck with the two, methinks.


Since Bernie was out thr picture I was considering third party. Problem is when you look into them there's a reason they don't get above 1 percent. Look at the libertarians I watched their convention and they are smoking crack. There convention they were claiming a 3 year old has the right to inject herion. I mean come on really????? After thr convention and thr craziness I saw I can't in good conscience even consider them a plausible option.

And the funny part is people wanted to call Bernie a socialist but Hillary beats him by a landslide. Being a Democrat my whole life this party shifted alot. Democrats left thr middle and we'll are I guess communists by this point. Everything should be controlled by the state yada yada.

The Republicans well they lost there rocker and they went to destroy government programs completely so many centrist republicans are in the same boat. Maybe that's why Trump is popular when thr republicans kept saying he wasn't a conservative. Which is true he's already discussed how he would regulate businesses. What I'm curious about is what would happen if either party actually put a centrist in,I'm betting it would be a landslide victory. I think people are just tired of politics and extremes.



posted on Jun, 27 2016 @ 11:14 PM
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I see Trump as a centrist.


Trouble is he isn't a 'controlled' centrist. At least that's the perception. For me, certainly far less controlled than the members of the machine. No matter the political label, control over all else.



posted on Jun, 27 2016 @ 11:51 PM
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Another point, you have never ever seen Darth Vader and Hillary Clinton together. Coincidence?!?


I think not.



posted on Jun, 27 2016 @ 11:59 PM
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I WONDER what will be the "October Surprise" this cycle? It seems that there's always something revealed that tips the scales one way or the other at the last minute.

It was that secret recording of Mitt Romney addressing donors that put the final nail in his 2012 coffin, wasn't it?



posted on Jun, 28 2016 @ 12:00 AM
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I'd vote neither, but Trump definitely is a bigger idiot than Hillary.
She might be equally evil, but Trump is deffo a dick.



posted on Jun, 28 2016 @ 12:07 AM
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Here's an interesting post -

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump Jun 26
twitter.com...

Top 50 Facts About Crooked Hillary Clinton From Trump 'Stakes Of The Election'

Address: assets.donaldjtrump.com...

Anyways, please, carry on.





posted on Jun, 28 2016 @ 12:56 AM
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Trump even tweeted a pictre of his penis, what a knob


abcnews.com.co...enis/


Donald Trump has broken all kinds of norms during his presidential campaign, but he just went to a whole new level this morning by tweeting what is supposedly an image of his private-parts. The tweet was quickly deleted but not before being retweeted over 5,000 times. The tweet comes in response to comments made by Marco Rubio and others about the size of Donald Trump’s hands. “Look at those hands, are they small hands?” Trump told the audience at his rally in Detroit back in March. “And he [Rubio] referred to my hands, ‘if they’re small something else must be small.’ I guarantee you there’s no problem, I guarantee it.”



posted on Jun, 28 2016 @ 03:50 AM
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originally posted by: Vector99
Another point, you have never ever seen Darth Vader and Hillary Clinton together. Coincidence?!?


I think not.


Oh pleaze....Darth may be from the Dark Side but he has class and charisma, something Hillary could only hope for.



posted on Jun, 28 2016 @ 08:48 AM
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What 'third party' do you refer to?
Do you use 'third party' as a none of the above? If so, then that's what Trump represents to his supporters. None of the above....


In fact Trump represents that potential third party. If the GOP doesn't adapt and fast, the sheer volume/percentile of votes Trump received in the Republican primaries will be the impetus for that 'third party'.....whether Trump is involved or not.



posted on Jun, 28 2016 @ 08:57 AM
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originally posted by: BubbaJoe
Hillary has been vetted for 30+ years, and much of it debunked, everyone is tired of hearing about it. If you have enough evidence, indict her, but that seems to be a problem. Trey Gowdy has even admitted this, but wastes American Tax Payer's dollars, to continue this phony ass investigation. Bring the smoking gun, or sit down. And some of you wonder why sane people would every vote Republican.


I'm curious as to what you mean 'vetted'? I'd say exposed would be more accurate.

Laws have been broken. Whether or not the Obama administration acts on them is another question. That hasn't played out yet. Prosecutorial discretion in use again??

If there is evidence sufficient to convict, what a superb control mechanism hanging above Hillary's head for the duration of her term as president.....




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