FBI 'Revolt of Watergate Proportions' if Hillary Skates

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: BubbaJoe

You know 2 main ones.

The SD IG report, and those 22 emails with classified stuff so top secret, the government won't release any at all.

You know the government sources too.

You are dismissed mister.

Every single email that went to that server from every single person in government was sent with the FULL AWARENESS and knowledge that they were sending at the time to a private email address.

Y'all can keep talking and talking and talking about those magical 22 classified emails, but the fact is, was, has been and will be, that at the time, those were not classified "top secret" when they showed up on her server.

The laws that are now in place requiring officials to use government systems were only put in place AFTER Clinton left office, so at the time, Clinton did not break any laws.

The State IG's report, released in May, stated clearly that the problems that do exist at the time with Clinton's email use have long existed in the State Department (and not just with the Secretaries). General Powell has stated, directly, that he used private email, as has Ms. Rice. Where is the hue and cry for their blood?

This points to the exact problem with the last three decades of attempts to "get something" on the Clintons ... the Right wing is so consumed by their need to destroy them that they are blinded to reality, they will not accept facts, they will not stop when it becomes apparent that there is no evidence of any wrongdoing, they keep regurgitating the same, tired, blatant lies ... so that even folks (like me) who wouldn't ordinarily give two hoots in hell about the matter are dead-set against allowing this kind of crap to happen to ANY American.

You didn't learn anything from trying to destroy Bill, and you're not learning anything from trying to destroy Hillary.

So, keep chanting "Whitewater, Benghazi!, emails" until you're blue in the face. The American people aren't buying it.

originally posted by: Helious
None of it matters, either way, Trump or Hillary, you will see armed revolution. This country is headed towards violence of it's own making.

Hillary should be praying right now she DOESN"T get elected.

Well, after decades of the NRA-sponsored, right-wing groups calling for it, are you suprised?

originally posted by: aethertek
Recycled crap from January.

Right-Wing Media Cite Discredited Republican Lawyer To Claim Hillary Clinton Committed "Numerous Federal Crimes" Research ››› January 7, 2016 2:47 PM EST ››› NICK FERNANDEZ & CRISTIANO LIMA

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Joseph DiGenova....

DiGenova Falsely Claimed Members Of The Military Were "Relieved Of Their Duty Because They Insisted That There Be A Military Response" To Benghazi Attacks. On October 28, 2013,

DiGenova Baselessly Alleged That Obama Administration Tried To Cover Up Theft Of Hundreds Of Surface-To-Air Missiles In Benghazi. In October 2013

DiGenova Has Been Criticized By Lawmaker For "Non-Stop Mugging" For The Press And For Lacking "Impartiality, Non-Partisanship, And Professionalism." In 1998, Joseph DiGenova and his wife and legal partner Victoria Toensing, who were working as outside counsel for the House Committee on Education and the Workforce, were criticized for their actions in connection with the Monica Lewinsky scandal. A February 5, 1998, Roll Call article "

DiGenova Was Criticized For Conflict Of Interest Over Dual Role In Separate DOJ Investigations. DiGenova and Toensing were criticized for serving as special counsel in the House Education and the Workforce Committee probe into Justice Department oversight of the Teamsters union while also representing Dan Burton, the committee's chairman at the time, in a separate Justice Department probe. A December 18, 1997, Roll Call article reported:

DiGenova Was Involved In Discredited And Retracted Article About President Clinton. DiGenova and Toensing were involved in a retracted Dallas Morning News article claiming that a Secret Service agent had witnessed President Clinton and Lewinsky in a "compromising situation." From the February 27, 1998, report byThe Washington Post's Howard Kurtz:

Filthy lying scumbag just has an axe to grind.Pfft

K~

I read a book from thr secret service in the Clinton white house and he did indeed say he caught them. So I guess he was right on that one. So I guess he did hear that just took a long time for the agent to come forward.

www.dailymail.co.uk... sferred-work-HILLARY-President-brought-West-Wing-PAID-position.html

a reply to: Gryphon66

No they didn't know her staff was sending it to her after removing security. Her replies would again be sent in and forwarded by staff. If she had been using an outside server directly they would have noticed since it would have told them this is an unsecured site. And would have red flagged this long before now. No one realized she was using a private server until they started investigating and realized her emails were missing from government servers. That's when the FBI started investigating as to whe re they were since it was required they be kept.

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Helious
None of it matters, either way, Trump or Hillary, you will see armed revolution. This country is headed towards violence of it's own making.

Hillary should be praying right now she DOESN"T get elected.

Well, after decades of the NRA-sponsored, right-wing groups calling for it, are you suprised?

Won't be anything done the only two groups that could prosecute her won't. They will just wait until people forget they always do.

originally posted by: dragonridr
a reply to: Gryphon66

No they didn't know her staff was sending it to her after removing security. Her replies would again be sent in and forwarded by staff. If she had been using an outside server directly they would have noticed since it would have told them this is an unsecured site. And would have red flagged this long before now. No one realized she was using a private server until they started investigating and realized her emails were missing from government servers. That's when the FBI started investigating as to whe re they were since it was required they be kept.

That's absurd. Are you saying that the people sending and receiving emails to and from Hillary Clinton didn't know her email address?

Can you prove that?

originally posted by: dragonridr

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Helious
None of it matters, either way, Trump or Hillary, you will see armed revolution. This country is headed towards violence of it's own making.

Hillary should be praying right now she DOESN"T get elected.

Well, after decades of the NRA-sponsored, right-wing groups calling for it, are you suprised?

Won't be anything done the only two groups that could prosecute her won't. They will just wait until people forget they always do.

This has something to do with decades of calls for violence against the govenrment from some right-wing hate groups?

How?

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: dragonridr
a reply to: Gryphon66

No they didn't know her staff was sending it to her after removing security. Her replies would again be sent in and forwarded by staff. If she had been using an outside server directly they would have noticed since it would have told them this is an unsecured site. And would have red flagged this long before now. No one realized she was using a private server until they started investigating and realized her emails were missing from government servers. That's when the FBI started investigating as to whe re they were since it was required they be kept.

That's absurd. Are you saying that the people sending and receiving emails to and from Hillary Clinton didn't know her email address?

Can you prove that?

You have not been following this very well have you it was released with her emails.

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Bombshell: In Email, Hillary Ordered Aide to Strip Classified Marking and Send Sensitive Material
Guy Benson | January 08, 2016
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Bombshell: In Email, Hillary Ordered Aide to Strip Classified Marking and Send Sensitive Material

The State Department waited until the middle of the night to execute its belated, court-ordered release of the latest tranche of Hillary Clinton's emails -- the ones she and her attorneys didn't unilaterally delete with no oversight, that is. Fox News notices a significant exchange that may point to criminal conduct:

The latest batch of emails released from Hillary Clinton's personal account from her tenure as secretary of state includes 66 messages deemed classified at some level, the State Department said early Friday. In one email, Clinton even seemed to coach a top adviser on how to send secure information outside secure channels. Clinton, the front-runner for the Democratic presidential nomination, has repeatedly maintained that she did not send or receive classified material on her personal account. The State Department claims none of the emails now marked classified were labled as such at the time they were sent. However, one email thread from June 2011 appears to include Clinton telling her top adviser Jake Sullivan to send secure information through insecure means. In response to Clinton's request for a set of since-redacted talking points, Sullivan writes, "They say they've had issues sending secure fax. They're working on it." Clinton responds "If they can't, turn into nonpaper [with] no identifying heading and send nonsecure." Ironically, an email thread from four months earlier shows Clinton saying she was "surprised" that a diplomatic oficer named John Godfrey used a personal email account to send a memo on Libya policy after the fall of Muammar Qaddafi.

m.townhall.com...

a reply to: dragonridr

This is totally wrong but carry on.
You don't have a single fact correct in your paragraph.

a reply to: dragonridr

You do know that that never happened right? No of course you don't or you wouldn't have included it in your debate.
The stripping of headings never actually happened and the document being discussed was a talking points list for a meeting. They got the system working in time for the meeting so never had to send the talking points list unsecured.
Oh the bad bad girl again. Hang her . Nonsense from haters.

a reply to: Metallicus

This is huge news if true

yes its true that aformer Attorney general is getting his 5 minutes of fame, but not true as to anything else

It sounds like Hilary is going to be indicted or at least recommended to be indicted

No it doesn't say that at all.
All 3 sources go back to the same man (ex-employee) saying there may be a revolt, there may be an indictment. A lot of maybes that mean nothing until we know what the FBI will recommend and what Lynch decides to do.

You might like to change the title of your thread to include the word "maybe".

a reply to: xuenchen

The released emails and official statements alone are evidence enough

But it is still up to the Attorney General whether to indict

a reply to: Metallicus

The FBI, Loretta Lynch, and Obama are all Clinton Puppets. They won't do anything to HRC. No way they would ever prosecute her.

a reply to: dragonridr

Not a word of that has anything to do with the fact that people knew what emails they were sending to and receiving from.

Your quote even states, unequivocally, that the emails didn't include classified material.

You people are desperate and it's showing.

www.investors.com...

First, it turns out that Clinton managed to avoid turning over one key email, despite her repeated promises that she gave the State Department every single work-related email from her private email server. As the Associated Press reported, in the missing email, Clinton admits that her private setup was a problem.

The things she has been denying are problematic with these email releases.

As the AP reports, "the emails ... show that the State Department technical staff disabled software on their systems intended to block phishing emails that could deliver dangerous viruses."

She signed NDA's just like others prosecuted for similar offenses.

a reply to: shooterbrody

She signed NDA's just like others prosecuted for similar offenses.

But she doesn't remember signing her SF 312, so you don't actually expect her to allow herself to be held to its terms now do you?

I mean come on, it was a careless mistake in the handling of classified information, she really didn't intend to compromise National Security after all. You have to make allowances because she just didn't know how to operate a computer.

I think your expectations are a little too high, we should just let her call, "oopsie" and reset everything back to normal so she can get on with the nation's (with some Clinton Foundation activity thrown in for good measure) business after all.

The nerve of some people who want those in office to actually do their job and uphold their oath of office.

Sheesh.

a reply to: jadedANDcynical

I am pretty sure those laws don't work that way. Intentional, unintentional, mistake, or accident they get charged no matter the intent.

a reply to: shooterbrody

And besides, she had an expert set up her private server, so you just know it was secure. There is no way that any hacker could ever have gotten in to her server, after all it was kept under guard by the secret service at her house.

Isn't that good enough for you?

I mean, after all, this is Hillary Clinton we are talking about. Those laws you mentioned surely don't apply to her, do they?

a reply to: MotherMayEye

Umm didnt bernie concede recently? HE betrayed all his convictions by saying he will vote for clinton.