American's Mass Exodus to Europe

a reply to: 0bserver1

I like Europe already!

originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: 0bserver1

I like Europe already!

But I thought you had this major problem with socialism, yet you're wetting yourself about Europe?

lol

Unfortunately the internet still works in Europe, so we'll still be subjected to posts like this.

Take care now, buh-bye then

Spme of you need more relaxation time irl.

I have to say:
Ho my Krishna! what? i never saw this before....
To start with, Europe is a continent, it has a lot of countries with diferent languages and cultures, most of the countries in the European continent belong to the european Union which allowed the countries to open the borders and use the same coin, the €. They still are diferent countries with their own constitutions and governments.
Now lets talk about that naive idea you have about you and us, lets talk about US, since someone mentioned before, if you are white and living in the US, darling, you are European descendent.
Lets consider this: like a third of the US territory used to be Mexico, never met a white Mexican, actually never met any central or south Americn white people (except albines but that is another story), and if we analise the "nactive americans" and even the Canadian, guess what? not white!
And to close this statement of discontent about ignorance, i love being called racist by a person, who wants to move to another Continent 'cause its fancy, and you dont even realise there is only 1 country in Europe for which English is the oficial language.
Wanna guess the name of that country?

Sorry for something, but could not hold it in XD

originally posted by: schuyler
If you don't like American life, you won't like European life either.

Having lived in Europe for almost a decade you forgot a BIG ticket item for Americans: Air Conditioning and good internet. Plus you have to repurchase every appliance and over time all electrical devices because using a converter gets old. Also you have to really give it a go at absorbing local customs and learn enough language to be polite. If not, your in for a not as great time. I don't see many Americans doing that, and if they do they are the minority. No offense to anyone, I really loved living abroad and traveling all over Europe. Truth be told it grew on me and I would go back if it was on the table. Who needs A/C? Who needs closets? I'm adaptable.

Jax

edited because I forgot...washing and drying clothing gets complicated too. You're not likely to find the GIANT American appliances and if you do, don;t plan on using anything else at the same time unless you want to flip a breaker. It's not like all third world over there but it can be expensive if you plan t olive like an American. Radiators in the winter, fans in the summer...Hang your clothes out to dry...not EVERYWHERE I'm obviously not speaking for EVERY European...

a reply to: onequestion

Prove it!

I found so little problems with this that i had to talk with my friends to see if i was out of synchronicity with the rest, but they all respond a little giggling ( let them come if they can swallow all the rules and regulations ) It may be helpful for us to have some thinking out of the box so we might create new work, and if they have a drop of Norwegian blood in them it should only be a formality.
Lovely country, decent friendly people but i can not live there (R&R) and i am sad for this because i will fight for it to my last drop of blood.

a reply to: onequestion



I doubt it. I'm guessing the new normal, based on all the reactionary BS on both sides looks a lot more like this.

If all the Trump haters moved to Europe USA would instantly be 75.33% better. I can't wait!!

a reply to: jjkenobi

Or, the US would evolve into a third world country where people have tiny garage doors installed on their phones because that is the only thing they can figure out without a video walk-through.

I mean, it could go either way.

With the EU and the possible future european superstate (And the massive muslim population), it's hard to tell which is more corrupted. I personally can't see any future for both, at least not for the half-decent people from these countries.

I am an American living in Croatia (which is part of the EU) for the past 11 years.
Just wanted to clear some things up.

1. My Internet here is faster than it was back in Texas and is more reliable.
2. We do not have AC, but could always buy portable or permanent AC units for the house.
3. Most people speak English but respect you more if you at least try to speak they're Language. Especially in Germany and France.
4. It is not as easy as you think to move to Europe. It is expensive to get a Permanent Residence card. For a Citizenship, you will need to know the local language quite fluently. You will also need a sponsor or an Agency.
5. The European economy is in a mess right now. It is easier to find work in America than here at the moment.
6. You will need to bring Power Transformers/Converts for anything with an American plug. In most of Europe (I think) its 220. America is 117. With time you will eventually replace most of your American Electronics with European ones.
7. Electronic items are VERY expensive here. In Croatia anyway.
8. There are large and small Washing Machines of all types and brands. Don't buy Whirlpool. They suck.
9. Europe is much more advanced than you think. This is not a Third-World place.
10. The majority of Europeans are much smarter than most Americans on any given day. That is a fact. It's all in the Education, which is a lot more stringent than in America.

I will stop at 10. lol!

It has been a learning experience living here. Very rewarding once you lose your American attitude and understand that everything you have ever been taught (propaganda), is a lie. Americans cannot know how other cultures think and the REAL history of those cultures until they have lived here for a few years. Even then you will still be learning, as I am every day.

That is all.

originally posted by: schuyler
There will be no mass exodus to Europe from America. If you don't like American life, you won't like European life either. Taxes are higher. There are more regulations. In most cases you have fewer rights. Immigration is completely out of control. It's much more heavily populated. Example: The UK has close to 65 million people. Washington State is about the same size and has 7 million. Unemployment is (officially) higher. (Yeah, I know there is the official rate then there is the real rate, but it's the same for Europe.) It's true that "everybody speaks English, but most places you will be at a severe language disadvantage. Even if you spend the time and effort to learn another language to fluency, you will always have an American accent.

Plus, you have a big disadvantage in being American. Any middle-eastern or African that can manage to get his sorry butt onto European soil can become a refugee and get on the dole, but not you. In order to legally immigrate, you will be put through a ringer that the "refugees" do not need to go through. You will be specifically restricted from public assistance when you first arrive. And you will face considerable prejudice just because of who you are.

Not really such a hot idea. But it is a great place to visit.

That's hilarious! Thanks for the laugh!


All sarcasm aside, life can be very good here, but if you are not in the biggest European cities, nobody speaks english.
It makes me crack up to see the american tourists speaking english to waiters and such. But I know that american movies always paint that false picture.

Living here is easy, and you'd get all the financial aid you need (and will sometimes feel guilty about it, because we are so not used to that) but there are a lot of cultural differences that make it very difficult for Americans, no matter what European country you go to.
What I have seen as the hardest is to exit our completely ego-centric individualism, and enter the feared "herd mentality".. or as they call it, being civilized.

That's the big thing that might make it impossible to adapt, for some americans.

But then, Europe is made up of many countries, so your mileage may vary... like here in France, we have air conditioning everywhere, in stores, businesses, cars and homes. I have excellent internet connection even though I live out in the country in a very rural and isolated place.
My dryer is running at the moment, but in the summer I choose to hang things outside during the day because I found out it is a real pleasure to do so. (one of those things I discovered here, like local outdoor markets, homemade food from scratch, walking...)

a reply to: onequestion

It's pretty obvious you're trying to make an analogy between Mexicans coming to the US and American's going to Europe, it's not really a proper analogy though because Europe has a higher cost of living. They don't really have an illegal immigrant problem because their wages are such that no one can afford to work illegally for even less.

Furthermore, they have an immigration system that actually lets people from undeveloped countries in, in order to improve themselves. As an American you'll be turned away though because they see that you come from a nation which affords you opportunity and they expect you to prove yourself, that you can get an education and hold a good job. If I remember correctly, you're just starting an Associates but a Masters is pretty much expected if you plan to come from the US.

If you were serious about going to Europe your best bet would be to try and go as a transfer student, attend their colleges for a couple years, and get sponsored by a local employer to work for them.

Of course, you'll have to be willing to give up your citizenship to do that, because the US will tax a portion of your wages earned while overseas and that stops a lot of American's from easily moving elsewhere.

a reply to: onequestion

We don't need a wall considering the UK is an island, oh wait you said exodus to Europe. That's not our bag any longer.

But you yanks are welcome to grace our shores, should you choose to do so, need to leave your guns at the airport all the same.

a reply to: andy06shake

Why dear? did the UK float away to Asia these last few days?

XD

originally posted by: jjkenobi
If all the Trump haters moved to Europe USA would instantly be 75.33% better. I can't wait!!

Finally a reasonable estimate of Trumps overall support. Though at 24.66% I don't think the Trump haters need to start working on any moving plans.

So YOU and what you have in your pocket may leave, I'M staying.
Cowards aren't great Americans anyways.

originally posted by: TonyS
a reply to: onequestion

Race has nothing to do with it.

There's chronic high unemployment in the EU and they're very protective of their job base for the sake of their own youth.

Yet when Americans point this out as an argument to start removing illegal aliens we're called racists and xenophobes.