Muslim Man Slaughters 148 Young Christians, Americans Find Him And Kill Him

a reply to: Raggedyman

Yes atheism is a belief

I don't mind if you hate atheism, but your statement is a falsehood. Atheism is a lack of belief. It has no doctrine, theology, or faith.

Atheism inspired over 100 million deaths, its as bad as religion, accept that simple fact

Stalin and Mao were both anti-theist/religionist and communist, as well as atheist. Big difference there.

You have no moral high ground to claim

Yet again...I never claimed a moral high ground. That's a Christian stance.

Atheism was used to manipulate people, Stalinism was a religion of atheism, refute away.

No refutation necessary. History, the dictionary, and a little reason are all that's needed. Your argument is a straw-man, as well as a "you too fallacy", that twists and perverts the facts for support.

a reply to: Klassified

Klass can't refute it neener, neener, neener

100 million dead at the hands of atheist regimes, did I say 100 million, I meant over 100 million by atheist regimes

Insert Some more childish schoolyard neeners in true Klass style

Atheist regimes, no true Scotsman, no straw man
Deny they were atheist regimes, the floors yours Klass

originally posted by: Raggedyman
a reply to: Klassified

Klass can't refute it neener, neener, neener

100 million dead at the hands of atheist regimes, did I say 100 million, I meant over 100 million by atheist regimes

Insert Some more childish schoolyard neeners in true Klass style

Atheist regimes, no true Scotsman, no straw man
Deny they were atheist regimes, the floors yours Klass

You think you won something here? You haven't. I'm actually embarrassed for you. Enough said. Agree to disagree, which should have been done much earlier. I'll give you the last word on this.

I will use your words as my last word, befitting of a childish action

Communist atheists, over 100 million dead and yet atheists have the arrogance and moral highground to abase religion

Neener neener neener

So...where are all the loud-mouth religion haters to cry about this innocent Muslim being killed when all he did was clean up the dirty Christians that hate gays and are the cause of all the evil in the world?

a reply to: TheKnightofDoom

So can we say that it is Christians who killed all the Jews in WW2.

No we can't say.

“What does Christianity mean today? National Socialism is a religion. All we lack is a religious genius capable of uprooting outmoded religious practices and putting new ones in their place. We lack traditions and ritual. One day soon National Socialism will be the religion of all Germans. My Party is my church, and I believe I serve the Lord best if I do his will, and liberate my oppressed people from the fetters of slavery. That is my gospel.” ― Joseph Goebbels

Goebbels

Any horah for this man's death is a secular idea, as
Christ teachings forbid Christians from killing their
enemies. Does it not?

There are dozens of biblical scriptures that lead
Christians to follow a no-revenge policy. Anyone
who advocates revenge claiming Christ as their
Lord is nominal in their faith but does not
actually believe or practice Christ teachings.

I'm not a Christian, but it just looks absurd to me
when someone claiming to be a follower of Christ
seeks revenge in contradiction to Christ
teachings.

Such people are no less confused than the Muslim
extremist they vilify.

originally posted by: Raggedyman

originally posted by: Rosinitiate
This world would be better if all religions were abolished.
Oh...did I say that out loud?

What about the 100 million dead because of atheism
PolPot, Mao, Stalin, be good if atheism was abolished

Silly argument, it never stops around here, it seems atheists are ignorant of their own leaders

What if the people Stalin killed were actually failing to uphold a proper faith on a damn near murderous lack of faith and obedience scale and people like Stalin are actually being guided by a divine hand to counteract that evil?

originally posted by: gps777
In 2015 the attack known as the Garissa massacre in Garissa University, targeting singling and killing 148 young Christians where the Muslim students lives were spared.

Love the smell of fresh laser guided JDAM in the morning.

originally posted by: MrBlaq
Any horah for this man's death is a secular idea, as
Christ teachings forbid Christians from killing their
enemies. Does it not?

There are dozens of biblical scriptures that lead
Christians to follow a no-revenge policy. Anyone
who advocates revenge claiming Christ as their
Lord is nominal in their faith but does not
actually believe or practice Christ teachings.

I'm not a Christian, but it just looks absurd to me
when someone claiming to be a follower of Christ
seeks revenge in contradiction to Christ
teachings.

Such people are no less confused than the Muslim
extremist they vilify.

If I read correctly that a secular force killed the offender
Christians are not allowed to kill, though there is an argument in defense of state, serving their country, it's a individual choice

The state carried out the execution and christians are relieved and rejoice justice

Show me why that wrong


Miracula
That's Old Testament theology, works a little different now

Stalin thought he was a god, he served himself
That's my opinion

Lets stop bringing up "Christianity killed so many in brutal ways back in the day!!!!!"

This is just not a valid point anymore... human ideology has changed since then, humans have become way more civil than in the middle and medieval ages. All those arguments are 100% irrelevant. Christianity has changed HUGELY over 1000 years, so much so that's it's almost not even comparable. We today are not responsible for the past, especially a past that is not even in the lifetimes of our grandparents grandparents grandparents.

Today Christianity teaches love, love to all, forgiveness and acceptance. Intolerance shouldn't be (although some ignorant people still use it) a part of Christianity. God loves all humans, he may hate the sins, but no matter what you are he loves you. Christianity now understands that humans can not control themselves sometimes, there's scientific evidence, imbalance of chemicals in the brain, etc... that the Church now understands that people sometimes simply cannot control themselves to do what they do.

Sometimes however, it's just plain evil people, and that's a whole other story we can't get into without going massively off-topic.

a reply to: Rosinitiate

LOL I agree to a point. Abolishing anything doesn't work, you have to change people's minds. I'm not an atheist but I sure as $&%@ don't believe in organized religion and if the big three in particular didn't have any true believers, then there would be a hell of a lot less murder in the world.

originally posted by: 191stMIDET

I'm not an atheist but I sure as $&%@ don't believe in organized religion and if the big three in particular didn't have any true believers, then there would be a hell of a lot less murder in the world.

Christians from the very beginnings were slaughtered and persecuted, they never went around killing people, the Romans butchered them in every way imaginable who were astonished at how they would die praising God or singing.

Along comes Constantine who in a very dangerous position with his army against the odds of winning, painted blood cross`s on his men's shields and Prayed to God that if he wins this battle he will turn Christian, he won the battle and became Christian, but there is a lot of overlap of their pagan traditions that they mixed with Christianity, the gods they worshiped before hand were and they statues made of them, were just renamed i:e ISIS-Mary, Jupiter-Peter etc
Some info and Pics here

600 odd years came Mohamad who slaughtered Jews and Christians that is still raging today, the crusades were a group of Monk Knights who fought to take back the Holy lands from the grip of Islam and make safe passage for the pilgrim's to travel there. Islam`s goal is that the whole world submit to their god and their so called prophet who was nothing more than a perverted barbaric egocentric satanic usurping warmonger who made a death cult religion.

True Christianity has not changed from the very beginning from the first Christians who saw and were with Christ till the present day, many have used Christianity or perverted it for their own gain or control.

originally posted by: UKTruth
He should have been tried and then given free counselling to rehabilitate him so he could settle back into society. He could have been given a home and an job in America and become a valuable member of society. I'm sure that would be the right thing to do. Remember build bridges, not walls and love your enemies.

Meh...probably would have written a children's book in prison and gotten famous enough to send plenty back.

Go Jesus!

originally posted by: gps777

originally posted by: Raggedyman

originally posted by: Rosinitiate
This world would be better if all religions were abolished.
Oh...did I say that out loud?

What about the 100 million dead because of atheism
PolPot, Mao, Stalin, be good if atheism was abolished

Silly argument, it never stops around here, it seems atheists are ignorant of their own leaders

Correct, not just the leaders, the endless amount of crimes committed on our streets on a daily basis done by people with no belief in God.

The difference Islam's Allah is not the God Yahweh, of Jews and Christians, Allah is Satan.

Shown in Mohamad's Quran (a bastardization of the Bible) and the Old and new Testament describes who their Allah is.

None of them are GOD, but GODS, and none of them are worth saving.

We shall judge and dispense with the whole lot VERY soon.

originally posted by: Raggedyman
a reply to: gps777

Muslim atheist Christian, it's people not just their beliefs
Can't just go around blaming a system when evil people make up the system, the angst has to stop somewhere
My argument is silly, silly as Rosintates

No people made ANY of the systems that truly control, they are infinite and everywhere....this should tell you something about the things you worship.

originally posted by: Raggedyman

originally posted by: Rosinitiate
This world would be better if all religions were abolished.
Oh...did I say that out loud?

What about the 100 million dead because of atheism
PolPot, Mao, Stalin, be good if atheism was abolished

Silly argument, it never stops around here, it seems atheists are ignorant of their own leaders

You missed the point entirely, and I'm not atheist as I do believe in a greater power. Perhaps I should have said organized religion?

originally posted by: 191stMIDET
a reply to: Rosinitiate

LOL I agree to a point. Abolishing anything doesn't work, you have to change people's minds. I'm not an atheist but I sure as $&%@ don't believe in organized religion and if the big three in particular didn't have any true believers, then there would be a hell of a lot less murder in the world.

I'm right there with you buddy.

a reply to: Rosinitiate

Well I am sorry I missed the point, pity you where not clearer

Religion has been used for evil I don't deny that, atheism has been used for evil as well, it's a pity atheists and anti religious people can't reflect on the human condition
It's a pity so many religious people are so much the same, there are no winners

We are all in this together

a reply to: Raggedyman

It's also a pity your so pokey. :p

I agree with everything you said. Godlessness isn't the answer either.