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Brexit: Democratic process undermines NWO. How?

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posted on Jun, 25 2016 @ 11:53 AM
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It seems perfectly plausible, if not highly likely, that monied interests would seek power/control over the masses.

The thing is, just like any group of humans trying to accomplish as task as an organization, there will be dents in the armor, incompetence, unforeseen hiccups, people fighting back from within, etc.

In other words, I'm sure elite groups TRY to hold onto power and direct the world, but at the end of the day they're as human as the rest of us.




posted on Jun, 25 2016 @ 02:40 PM
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a reply to: TheLaughingGod

The New Order of the Ages group is superior. The opposition group has latched onto the catch phrase New World Order. The general public are not fully aware of the groups. Think about electric lighting. You have incandescent, fluorescent and now LED. One could think they have light but yet not be in the same group.

This idea of NWO is tricky. The words are tricky. It seems like the words get trickier and trickier as we go. The propaganda tells us that the youth are more advanced than the aged. Nonsense! Remember Al Gore telling school children that they are more clever than their parents? There is a lot of brainwashing going on. Obama gained popularity by telling people that the United States needed change. Nonsense! No change was needed. Do you see?



posted on Jun, 25 2016 @ 02:53 PM
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a reply to: Generation9

Is this group and the designation something you've made up yourself or did you get this from somewhere? Is there at all any type of evidence for the existence of said group or is this merely conjecture on your part?

I'm very familiar with the theory of the NWO.. there is not much evidence for other groups working against them as far as I know. Presumably perhaps because these groups would work within framework of the groups of the New World Order.

Then there's David Wilcock and Benjamin Fulford but I'm seriously skeptical about their claims. Putin does seem to get a kick out of interfering with their plans though. I'm open to the idea but too pessimistic to believe in it fully without adequate evidence.



posted on Jun, 25 2016 @ 03:09 PM
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a reply to: TheLaughingGod

My evidence? The internet. Just like yours.

This is like people graduating from high school and going to college. Some go here. Some go there. They are all in college and yet they are not in the same college. Later on the elementary school kids blame the "college kids" for shortening recess and removing chocolate chip cookies from the cafeteria. It's those snooty college kids.

Think wolf in sheeps clothing.

The enemy doesn't just come right out and claim to be the enemy. Unless they're ISIS or some other whole cloth fabrication.



posted on Jun, 25 2016 @ 03:11 PM
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a reply to: Droogie

It doesn't -personally I don't beleive in NWO but apparently Murdoch is in that and he's famous for saying:




'When I go into Downing Street they do what I say; when I go to Brussels they take no notice.'


www.standard.co.uk...


As someone who voted remain and is vehemently opposed to the current government the chance of electoral fraud in the UK is pretty much nil - votes are counted in public - thousands of witnesses. The whole pen/pencilconspiracy was nonsense as elections have always been dome with pencils - had to even tell some pro-remain morons to take down pictures of their vote as laws are incredibly strict on anything that may influence results - i.e 250m cordon where people are banned from trying to influence voters so they have a free vote.

The only way vote fraud is possible is by postal votes but as far as I'm aware they weren't used for this and any cases have been minorand swifty dealt with.

As much as I diagree with the outcome of the vote it was undoubtedly a free and fair one.



posted on Jun, 25 2016 @ 03:11 PM
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a reply to: Droogie

It doesn't -personally I don't beleive in NWO but apparently Murdoch is in that and he's famous for saying:




'When I go into Downing Street they do what I say; when I go to Brussels they take no notice.'


www.standard.co.uk...


As someone who voted remain and is vehemently opposed to the current government the chance of electoral fraud in the UK is pretty much nil - votes are counted in public - thousands of witnesses. The whole pen/pencilconspiracy was nonsense as elections have always been dome with pencils - had to even tell some pro-remain morons to take down pictures of their vote as laws are incredibly strict on anything that may influence results - i.e 250m cordon where people are banned from trying to influence voters so they have a free vote.

The only way vote fraud is possible is by postal votes but as far as I'm aware they weren't used for this and any cases have been minorand swifty dealt with.

As much as I diagree with the outcome of the vote it was undoubtedly a free and fair one.



posted on Jun, 25 2016 @ 03:15 PM
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But think on this. If the Elites are at war with us, they're in it for the long term. No one, no matter how good, wins every battle in war. This was a battle they lost. The Elites will lose battles. They just will. Not everything should be twisted to, they feigned the loss or it was a calculated loss to ensure a victory in the next battle. Sometimes the explanation is easy.

Or, maybe there really isn't a global cabal of elites trying to battle us into submission and maybe even if there was, it has nothing to do with Brexit or the EU. That's just a thing that's happened that maybe or maybe doesn't help or hinder them.



posted on Jun, 25 2016 @ 03:16 PM
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This comes down to your personal opinion about world order.

Do you want world order of strong individuals or do you want world order of sheeple led by communist leaders.

Either you and I do things for ourselves and cooperate when beneficial, or you and I struggle to see who can crush the other. One order is freedom and liberty while the other order is fascist control of the mass of fools.



posted on Jun, 25 2016 @ 03:20 PM
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a reply to: amazing

The question of elites versus us is a brick wall roadblock. Who wants to be in the "us" category? I want to be in the elite category. Surely all the social media stars want to be elite. That is why they walk down the street twiddling their thumbs getting grams instantly. Everybody wants to be a star. If you think the elite are against you then maybe you are against the elite. I'd rather walk down the elite path. When I find that I am simply too ordinary I'll hit the books and study up. I'm not trying to be ordinary.



posted on Jun, 25 2016 @ 03:48 PM
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a reply to: Droogie




Hi, gortex! Why would "they" allow for such a voting system though? It doesn't make any sense if you subscribe to the NWO conspiracy theory in my opinion.


I scratch my head sometimes as well. We're having a general election as well next Saturday - but wait for it - we're still given graphite pencils and the votes go in cardboard boxes - hehehe -

They wouldn't tamper with our votes would they?



posted on Jun, 25 2016 @ 04:04 PM
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a reply to: Rapha



Both Jesus and His Father were on the side of the Brits that wanted to leave the EU.


Were they on the British side when the British ruled the world in the past through the Opium Wars/Drug trade or the slaver trade? This Abraham deity sure is allowing a lot of Muslims into Britain -
Also allows a privelaged position to the Oligarchy through the London Gold Fix - something that affects most of the worlds economy and payments

en.wikipedia.org...


The London Gold Fixing (or Gold Fix)[1] is the setting of the price of gold that used to be held on the premises of Nathan Mayer Rothschild & Sons by the members of The London Gold Market Fixing Ltd. However, in 2004, Nathan Mayer Rothschild left the precious metals business in London and sold its place on the fixing to Barclays. From that time onwards, the fixing has taken place via a dedicated conference line. This was clearly a necessity as some banks moved their London operations away from the close proximity to the Bank of England and gravitated to areas such as Canary Wharf.


you state...


So what would you do if you were an elitist and you already knew that your life span would end in seconds, if the votes were rigged, forcing the UK to stay ?

But don't they have bunkers - how would their life end in seconds

you state...


The Rothchild's are now in Switzerland with UK gold. If they want war, then i am sure God will just open up a portal to Hell via CERN and they will all go to where they all belong.


Rapha I like your posts but sometimes I think you're all over the place. If hell was a real place God wouldn't need CERN. But if the god of this world was the Demiurge that's another story. And i'm sure you know the intimate movements and the security details of the Rothschilds.
edit on 25-6-2016 by TheConstruKctionofLight because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 25 2016 @ 05:11 PM
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a reply to: Generation9

Yeah.. but specific sources?



posted on Jun, 25 2016 @ 05:51 PM
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Conspiracy 1: the UK is apart of Oceania(american empire/anglophone countries) not eurasia. see map from book 1984.

conspiracy 2: The UK is to be saved, city of london is important for the elite. It's easy to defend, border controls are easy.
Turkey being admitted or denied into the EU is upcoming. The Turkish situation will destroy the euro whether they are let in or not.
1. Turkey is admitted, Turks flood into europe as they are legally allowed, cultural war ensues, countries dodging out of the euro as fast as possible. nationalism returns to europe, euro fails
2. Turkey is denied, follows through on their threat helps move 3 million refugees into europe.
a.euro and turk relations quickly sour to hate, eurocrats take an anti-immigration stance. Native euros form an ingroup preference against muslims. euro-nationalism is born. euro and turkey saber rattle. euro tells the US its either us or turkey. The US picks the Euro. Turkey joins the Arab league. West vs Islam ww3 begins.
b. eurocrats still drone on about the benefits of immigrants. nationalism returns, euro fails.



posted on Jun, 25 2016 @ 06:21 PM
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The OP asks a good question

The answer is that often these cynical power hungry peopel are very agile and can bring

ORDER OUT OF CHAOS THAT EVENTUALLY GIVES THEM MORE POWER.


Problem…reaction…solution



posted on Jun, 25 2016 @ 06:24 PM
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posted on Jun, 25 2016 @ 06:49 PM
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originally posted by: Droogie
I'm not well-versed in the NWO conspiracy, but this news invites the question: How could this happen if there really is a NWO conspiracy?


Good question.
Here are my thoughts...
- There is either no NWO
- They didn't try to rig the vote because they thought Project Fear succeeded
- They did rig the vote but grossly underestimated the amount of people who were going to vote Leave



posted on Jun, 25 2016 @ 06:49 PM
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a reply to: Generation9

You perhaps missed the entry requirements of the Elite - either familial ties to Old Aristocracy, or an entry level of Assets of say over $1 Trillion? Hitting the books will only get you so far as evidenced by the amount of graduates unable to find work in their field of study. As to the media stars, they are allowed to think they are elite so they can be used as "role" models to further brainwash the sheep. But I guess where we are at at the moment is any ones guess.

The things that most people are forgetting is that Russia is still being encircled by Nato/US, the large amount of US debt held by the Chinese, the constant attempts to disarm the US population (the cynic in me thinks they want the people armed leading to a 2nd US civil war - and Marshall law). This is even without taking into account the coming stock market crash or the quadrillions in Derivatives on the merry go round.



posted on Jun, 26 2016 @ 12:55 AM
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originally posted by: TheConstruKctionofLight
Were they on the British side when the British ruled the world in the past through the Opium Wars/Drug trade or the slaver trade? This Abraham deity sure is allowing a lot of Muslims into Britain -
Also allows a privelaged position to the Oligarchy through the London Gold Fix - something that affects most of the worlds economy and payments

No, He wasn't on Englands side during the slave trade because HaSatan was in control via the Rothschild dynasty. Now that the British have shown that they want nothing to do with the NWO, He has moved in to protect those who voted out of the EU.

Many of the Muslims are in close proximity to the pro-EU voters like London and Birmingham. Once God allows the evil banksters to collapse the UK economy, those Muslims will be allowed to kill the pro-EU voters, whilst Jesus and His angels will protect the pro-UK voters.

In a way, it will be a smaller version of Revelation 9:4 where everyone that voted to stay in the EU will get killed by the Muslim terrorists that they are willing to invite into this country.


But don't they have bunkers - how would their life end in seconds

How long would a bunker last for when God allows a sink-hole to open up beneath them ? Not long.


If hell was a real place God wouldn't need CERN. But if the god of this world was the Demiurge that's another story. And i'm sure you know the intimate movements and the security details of the Rothschilds.

Hell is real with a thin 'veil' of protection from God that stops anything from traversing the dimensions. This veil is thin at the end of October every year which is why Halloween exists where spirits can walk to-and-fro between their world and ours. CERN breaks that veil which is what the elite are trying to do. They are trying to open the gateway to the Abyss so that they can get demons to fight Jesus when He returns. God will probably allow the elite to use CERN (Revelation 9:1-2) and just when the elite think they are winning, those locusts (demons) (Revelation 9:3) will devour them all.

God knows where they all are and knows where to strike.

Lol. When you are in contact with angels, events that are vague become easy to see, so yes, i assume people can see how everything is falling into place now. My mistake. In future i will explain how i reach my conclusions.



posted on Jun, 27 2016 @ 09:44 AM
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Once God allows the evil banksters to collapse the UK economy


Well they collapsed themselves in 2008 and us the taxpayer bailed them out - how fair is this god of yours?



How long would a bunker last for when God allows a sink-hole to open up beneath them ? Not long.


No bunker Buster bombs or lightning? You'd think that god would use something more exciting - you know so we could tell the difference - between man made & miraculous?




God will probably allow the elite to use CERN (Revelation 9:1-2) and just when the elite think they are winning, those locusts (demons) (Revelation 9:3) will devour them all.


Like god didn't allow all the Jews to die in the holocaust, just a few million - then he liberated them via the Allies...just when Hitler thought he was winning...I see how this works



The Rothchild's are now in Switzerland with UK gold. If they want war


But they've profited in wars for the last 300 years and are now worth over $120 Trillion, where was your god then?



posted on Jun, 27 2016 @ 09:46 AM
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Hell is real with a thin 'veil' of protection from God that stops anything from traversing the dimensions. This veil is thin at the end of October every year which is why Halloween exists where spirits can walk to-and-fro between their world and ours.


Ah I see you read pagan books when it suits you - I never recall this being mentioned in the Bible - hahaha




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