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Trump proven right once again, FBI Chief, Can't investigate Muslims

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posted on Jun, 25 2016 @ 02:38 PM
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originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: Gryphon66

The FBI has to profile in order to begin their investigation it's a fact.

Without profiling they can't search for potential targets.

You have no idea what your talking about.


Your the one who has no clue what you are talking about, just the fact that this is another story with no proof, a title that is a lie.

And right wing propaganda based in deceit, gryphon was right on the money.
edit on 25-6-2016 by dukeofjive696969 because: (no reason given)




posted on Jun, 25 2016 @ 03:15 PM
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I just felt like running in #forrestgump



posted on Jun, 25 2016 @ 06:48 PM
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originally posted by: BIGPoJo

originally posted by: shredderofsouls
What I don't understand is that the majority of mass shootings have been perpetrated by right wing white males but you never ask for them to be profiled and nor should they.

Why is one wrong and the other right?


False.

ALL of the recent mass shootings have been done by Democrats. FACT. They were only mostly white if you consider Middle Eastern people white. Also, one of them was a woman.


He said that the majority of shootings have been perpetrated by right wing white males, not that the most recent ones were perpetrated by right wing white males.



posted on Jun, 25 2016 @ 07:27 PM
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originally posted by: TechniXcality
a reply to: Krazysh0t

I think and it's just my personal opinion, but I think the Orlando shooter was an Islamic terrorist before an American citizen, I hope one day you can find the courage to say that.

Courage? To say what? A lie?
He was born in America. He was a citizen.



posted on Jun, 25 2016 @ 07:33 PM
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originally posted by: MrPlow

originally posted by: TechniXcality
a reply to: Krazysh0t

I think and it's just my personal opinion, but I think the Orlando shooter was an Islamic terrorist before an American citizen, I hope one day you can find the courage to say that.

Courage? To say what? A lie?
He was born in America. He was a citizen.


Traitors do not have any rights to be called citizens.



posted on Jun, 25 2016 @ 08:33 PM
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originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: MrPlow

originally posted by: TechniXcality
a reply to: Krazysh0t

I think and it's just my personal opinion, but I think the Orlando shooter was an Islamic terrorist before an American citizen, I hope one day you can find the courage to say that.

Courage? To say what? A lie?
He was born in America. He was a citizen.


Traitors do not have any rights to be called citizens.


The word "traitor" in this context is utterly devoid of meaning. He went from being an ordinary citizen with a guns-n-power fetish to being the prick that murdered 49 people in one action, the conclusion of which was his ultimate undoing. You could not have adequately labeled him a "traitor" before that any more than you could the people here on ATS who fantasize about horrible things happening to Obama, the sitting POTUS. To suggest otherwise is to endorse the notion of thought-crime and the abridgment of constitutional liberties.



posted on Jun, 25 2016 @ 08:39 PM
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a reply to: onequestion

It is racist that you even brought up this video. The Islamophobia is really insensitive right now. Shame on you!


/s



posted on Jun, 26 2016 @ 12:18 AM
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originally posted by: onequestion
I'm really starting to understand what's going on here.

The FBI is backing Trump so it's revealing what's going on with Clinton and Obama after they've stopped the FBI from doing it's job for the last 8 years.



Not saying this is the case, but assuming it were... would that be a good thing? Are you eager to return to the days where Hoover had a file on those in government, and the ability to dictate all official policy? The FBI should remain politically neutral, to do otherwise is how coup's are orchestrated.



posted on Jun, 26 2016 @ 12:23 AM
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originally posted by: neo96
Where were the RIGHTS of over 100 people in a night club in Orlando that nite?


Rights protect people from the government, not from each other.



posted on Jun, 26 2016 @ 06:34 AM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t



No enemy combatants here?

Are you really that naive?

WOW. Bury your head in the sand a little further......

edit on 26-6-2016 by poncho1982 because: commented on wrong post....doh!



posted on Jun, 26 2016 @ 09:09 AM
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a reply to: neo96

Funny what happens to that innocent until proven guilty when it's Hillary Clinton. Then we try in the court of public opinion.



posted on Jun, 26 2016 @ 09:18 AM
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originally posted by: Aazadan

originally posted by: neo96
Where were the RIGHTS of over 100 people in a night club in Orlando that nite?


Rights protect people from the government, not from each other.


Interesting interpretation. If your neighbor steals your car, your property rights have not been violated?



posted on Jun, 26 2016 @ 10:51 AM
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originally posted by: TechniXcality
a reply to: Krazysh0t

You my friend are living in a very bubbly world, we are absolutely at war with a large sect of Islam who espouses death for the kafir and the apostates.

Krazysh0t! An enemy combatant has no such rights!!


At war with a large sect of Islam? They make up less then 1% of the total population and practices Islam. So because we're at war with the less then 1%, we should mess with the other 99% as well?

I remember someone else in history doing something like that, I believe his name was Hitler.



posted on Jun, 26 2016 @ 11:20 AM
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originally posted by: TheTory
a reply to: TechniXcality

There's no doubt about that. After he claimed himself as an Islamic soldier, he said he was shooting people because America was bombing Syria. It's evident from his own statements that he was anti-American, and first and foremost, an Islamic terrorist who pledged allegiance to ISIS.


Before his Facebook was shot down, a few news reporters took a screenshot and it read that he lived in Florida, but from Islamabad Pakistan and a banner that said: "no power on earth can undo Pakistan". He never considered himself an American even if he was from NY.



posted on Jun, 26 2016 @ 11:25 AM
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Regards the general attitude of the administration to radical Islam:


“The fact is religion has been expunged from counterterrorism training,” said Sebastian Gorka, a counterterrorism specialist with the Foundation for Defense of Democracies. “The FBI can’t talk about Islam and they can’t talk about jihad.”


wayback machine

Hm,




If this aspect of the problem (radical Islam) can't even be discussed in the training materials, how in the bloody hell can it be addressed in situations that training material is supposed to cover?

The president has hosted known terrorist leaders (but tried to hide the fact) and consulted them in his policies:


When President Obama hosted his annual Iftar dinner in August 2010 to commemorate the Muslim celebration of Ramadan, the list of invitees published by the White House was curiously missing the names of several attendees--all of whom were top leaders of organizations known to be purveyors of jihadi ideology and implicated by federal prosecutors
in financing terrorism.4

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In fact, one of the individuals missing on the official White House list, Mohamed Majid, president of the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA), was pictured in a news service photograph sitting at the front table just a few feet from the president as he spoke.5

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It was just a few years ago the attorney general of the United States was canceling Muslim outreach events for the sole reason that Majid would be present at the meeting, because the Department of Justice had just named the ISNA as an unindicted co-conspirator in the largest terrorism financing trial in American history.7

Majid’s connection to terrorism, however,goes back even farther than that, since the offices of the mosque he leads, the All Dulles Area Muslim Society (ADAMS) Center, were raided by U.S. Customs authorities in March 2002 in a wide-sweeping terror finance investigation.8 In an affidavit requesting a search warrant for the raids, Customs Agent David Kane testified that Majid’s mosque was being used to launder hundreds of thousands of dollars for the targeted terror finance network that shared offices with ADAMS.9 An appendix to the Customs Service affidavit also names eleven ADAMS Center officials as targets of their terror finance investigation.10 Yet Majid and the ADAMS Center are still considered legitimate outreach partners by the FBI as of the writing of this article.11

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One of the first steps in 2009 was for the Obama administration to remove any reference to “radical Islam” from the National Security Strategy, a move that was hailed by CAIR and other Muslim groups.139 In fact, many of the U.S. government’s outreach partners had a direct hand in demanding the language purge from national security protocol and agency lexicons in recent years, going as far back as MPAC’s vehement criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report for the use of the words “Islamist,”,” “jihad,” and other such terms to describe the motivations, influence, and ideology of al-Qa’ida and the September 11 terrorists.140 Undoubtedly, the Obama administration’s move was part of the recent justification by the Associated Press to purge the same language from their stylebook.141

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This blacklisting was reified by guidelines issued by the Department of Homeland Security in October 2011 and intended to apply across all agencies that bans “training that equates religious expression, protests, or other constitutionally protected activity with criminal activity.”160 The Homeland Security counterterrorism training guidelines specifically cites MPAC as the sole non-government source for “best practices in CVE training and community policing.”161


BLIND TO TERROR:
THE U.S. GOVERNMENT’S DISASTROUS MUSLIM OUTREACH EFFORTS AND THE IMPACT ON U.S. MIDDLE EAST POLICY
By Patrick S. Poole
(direct link to .pdf, all caps in original title)

Rather than attempting to continue to the "right/left" diatribe, why not address the actual facts presented?

This administration has pursued policies which have hindered our nation's counterintelligence apparatus and that has been shown to be the case time and time again.



posted on Jun, 26 2016 @ 11:37 AM
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originally posted by: Lostmymarbles

originally posted by: TechniXcality
a reply to: Krazysh0t

You my friend are living in a very bubbly world, we are absolutely at war with a large sect of Islam who espouses death for the kafir and the apostates.

Krazysh0t! An enemy combatant has no such rights!!


At war with a large sect of Islam? They make up less then 1% of the total population and practices Islam. So because we're at war with the less then 1%, we should mess with the other 99% as well?

I remember someone else in history doing something like that, I believe his name was Hitler.


Your not making sense here are you looking at US muslim population because that would be 1 or 2 precent it's on the rise. If your talking world population your nuts. They make up 23 percent in fact will surpass christians by 2025. But all that aside of you have one percent of a popularion that's a problem why does it effect the 99 asumimg your talking about muslims. Does thr Italian mafia effect the other 99.9 percent of Italians not involved. But if I'm looking for Italian mafia members would it make sense for me to say start checking mexican??

Profiling isn't a bad thing by ant means it is what's called common sense. You wouldn't go looking for a camel in Antarctica would youa?? Why because you know where camels live and how they behave. If I'm looking for a radical Christian group that bombed a clinic am I going to start by checking mosques?? So of I'm looking for Islamic terrorists where do you propose would be a good location to start looking??



posted on Jun, 26 2016 @ 12:45 PM
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originally posted by: buster2010
a reply to: TechniXcality



Krazysh0t! An enemy combatant has no such rights!

Of course they do. Every human has the same basic rights.


Buster in from the left with the virtue signaling..



posted on Jun, 26 2016 @ 01:13 PM
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originally posted by: DJW001
Interesting interpretation. If your neighbor steals your car, your property rights have not been violated?


They have not. A law has been violated, but not a right.



posted on Jun, 26 2016 @ 02:37 PM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: onequestion

Translation: DHS whistleblower could have stopped shooting if we'd let DHS strip Americans of their rights when investigating Americans.



Translation: To avoid being labelled racist in any way shape or form, let us not investigate an issue where their actually is one.

Let me ask you something - Let's say a Crips gang banger murders someone in Atlanta, Georgia and disappears.Would it be reasonable to search for him in say, Billings, Montana or Cheyenne, Wyoming?

If you wanted to look for a Klansmen suspected in the murder of a Black man - would you go looking for him in Inner City Chicago?

If the federal government set aside a funding allotment to be distributed to city police departments in a nationwide gang violence crackdown, should Fountain, Colorado (Population: 27,631) get the same funding allotment as East. St. Louis, Illinois (Population: 27,006)

Anyone with a brain stem would likely answer no to these questions. I know we are talking about apologists and SJW's like yourself, but most reasonable people who give these a couple seconds of thought would say no. Why? Because you are unlikely to find a crips gang banger in Billings Montana. You go looking for a murdering gang banger, he's probably going to stay where he's comfortable and hide out in an area he's familiar with. You wouldn't look for a Klansman in Inner City Chicago, you'd probably find him in some more rural part of Illinois. You wouldn't give a city like Fountain, Colorado (which had 0 murders in 2014) the same funding for gang violence as East. St. Louis (which had 27 murders the same year)

Why do I bring this up? Because just like you wouldn't give some bum# town in the Great Plains the same gang violence funding as a known gang hotbed like East. St. Louis - you don't need to give every "terrorist" group the same amount of attention, resources or attention to detail. I know there are tinfoil hat "militias" in the U.S. that have aspirations of overthrowing the government, assassinating Obama, etc. I'm sure there are White racists looking for legal ways to disenfranchise Black people, etc. But it is generally universally accepted by the overwhelming majority that those grand dreams of breaking away from the United States or killing the President or discriminating against Black people are unrealistic, not tolerable, unethical, backwards, etc.

Muslim terrorists on the other hand are worlds more of a threat than Texas nationalists or the 52nd Bum# Idaho Militia will ever be. Muslim terrorists in the U.S. have the backing of several international terrorist organizations and the indifference of the Muslim community with which they shroud themselves. (The "Moderate" Muslims who do little or nothing to actively prevent terrorism or radicalization (though there are some good examples I have seen. Maybe 2 or 3 times a year) )

Like it or not, Muslims as a whole (again, with notable exceptions) are not doing nearly enough to prevent radicalzation or make a hostile environment for terrorists. Bringing speakers over from Iran who actively proclaim death to gays is not helping their cause. Trying to blame Orlando on the guns he used is not helping their cause. Muslim leadership in the U.S. needs to be preaching every #ing day that violence is not tolerated, that they need to adapt to American culture and accept the American way of doing things - not running to the Media when you assume you were slighted or discriminated against (Like that one Muslim woman last year who wrote an article about how she was discriminated against by an Airline employee that turned out to be bull#)

Until Muslims can withstand the same amount and same type of criticism Christianity and Jews face every day without KILLING people for it - they need to be kept on a short leash. Tell me when was the last time a Jew massacred people because someone made a holocaust joke. Tell me the last time a Christian went on a killing spree because of an episode of South Park. Until Islam can take criticism and not resort to violence or threats - they should be given extra scrutiny.



posted on Jun, 26 2016 @ 04:25 PM
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There is a lot of strangeness surrounding this whole tragic event. One of the more strange things is the shooter's Father.

www.dailymail.co.uk...

He apparently wants to be the President of Afghanistan and has friends in high places in the US government, he was just in DC in April meeting with government officials. In another thread another member had an interesting theory that his Father could have even played some sort of role in this whole thing because his Gay son was a "problem" to his political aspirations, while a suicide mission killing gay people would be seen with "honor" by his Afghan Countrymen....IDK ??

One thing we do know is that the Father's heart and loyalty are not to the USA and apparently neither were his American born Son's either. If you watch the Father's interview in the link above, he SAYS all the right things, while avoiding direct questions about his written words that are sympathetic to the Taliban.



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