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FBI investigators say they have found no evidence that Orlando shooter had gay lovers

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posted on Jun, 24 2016 @ 10:04 AM
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The FBI can't seem to find any evidence that the Orlando killer had any genuine connections to gays.

With all the recent hype about him being gay, many people thought it was just diversions to get the heat off the ISIS connections.

The Orlando shooting spree sure opened up a can of worms didn't it.

FBI investigators say they have found no evidence that Orlando shooter had gay lovers


Since the shooting at an Orlando nightclub last week that left 49 people dead, reports have emerged that gunman Omar Mateen frequented the gay club, used gay dating apps and had gay lovers.

But the FBI has found no evidence so far to support claims by those who say Mateen had gay lovers or communicated on gay dating apps, several law enforcement officials said.

Mateen, 29, told police negotiators he had carried out the shooting that began at 2 a.m. June 12 and ended, after a three-hour standoff, when he was killed by police.

He claimed the shooting was carried out in allegiance to the militant group Islamic State, as a message to halt U.S. bombing in Iraq and Syria.






posted on Jun, 24 2016 @ 10:05 AM
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a reply to: xuenchen

They want to push some bs narrative in order to pretend that he isn't a Middle Eastern ISIS supporter.

Now that the EU is finally going to collapse, Trump is going to start looking much better to people when they feel the second half of the housing collapse.



posted on Jun, 24 2016 @ 10:09 AM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Thank goodness they are using our money and their resources in such an important way.

Now if they can only explain why they did nothing after assigning him "informants" and being alerted to the guy 3 times.

Or why the police (according to officer Brandon Cornwell) had the shooter cornered "within minutes of the shooting" but were told to stand down.


edit on 24-6-2016 by gladtobehere because: wording



posted on Jun, 24 2016 @ 10:17 AM
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So he wasn't a real Muslim.
Now he wasn't a real gay.
I wonder what we will learn next.
They won't tell us that he was a robot.... they don't want us to get mad at the robot community.



posted on Jun, 24 2016 @ 10:22 AM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Read Phil Hanley's, "See something, Say Nothing" or even check out this YT video:

DHS Whistleblower Phil Haney exposes Obama administration during Press Conference


This will open the eyes of many blind.

Truth is introducing itself to everyone.



posted on Jun, 24 2016 @ 10:29 AM
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I think that was just something his ex made up. Maybe the people in the club he cased wanted to believe he was gay. Guys probably approached him and talked to him. Others probably saw him talking to other guys.

He supposedly did go into the club to check it out according to the second wife.

These kind of things are going to happen, they always did happen in the past, but this is a very bad case.



posted on Jun, 24 2016 @ 10:29 AM
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a reply to: xuenchen

S&F and posting so I can read...

I don't know what to think about this whole mess anymore... except that there's a lot of CYA and disinfo being put out there... probably by many different folks for many different purposes...

I will say, though, that this is quite the pickle for both Obama and Hillary. Two of their favorite peoples are being pitted against each other. I'm pretty sure that's not what they want!

But my default position hasn't changed: If the feds say it, be suspicious!



posted on Jun, 24 2016 @ 10:41 AM
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a reply to: xuenchen

They want the dialogue that he was a in the closest man and that being the reason for the shooting, not that he was a radicalized Muslim.

This is why you can't take any of the stories that comes out 24 hour before the incident seriously.
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posted on Jun, 24 2016 @ 10:41 AM
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a reply to: xuenchen


Star & Flag. The guy was simply a hater of Gay/Lesbians and a lover of ISIS. Those following in his footsteps must have their incentive removed, by knowing that the U.S. take away the people/things they love if they attack us.



posted on Jun, 24 2016 @ 10:59 AM
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originally posted by: NewzNose
a reply to: xuenchen

Read Phil Hanley's, "See something, Say Nothing" or even check out this YT video:

DHS Whistleblower Phil Haney exposes Obama administration during Press Conference


This will open the eyes of many blind.

Truth is introducing itself to everyone.


That was a very informative video and the guy has a good point. Our law enforcement agencies have their hands tied.



posted on Jun, 24 2016 @ 11:29 AM
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Has the story about Mateen's gay lover "Miguel" been debunked? This was reported on various news sites.

Sal

a reply to: xuenchen

"A man who says he was Omar Mateen's lover has claimed the mass murderer acted out of revenge after finding out one of his partners was HIV positive.

Mateen, 29, shot dead 49 people at Pulse, a gay nightclub in Florida, on June 12 in America's worst mass shooting.

In an interview with Spanish-language television network Univision the man, who was identified only by the name Miguel, claimed he and Mateen were "friends with benefits".

He said their relationship started after they met on a gay dating website and lasted two months until December, during which time they met between 15 and 20 times at a hotel in Orlando."




www.telegraph.co.uk...



posted on Jun, 24 2016 @ 11:35 AM
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a reply to: SallieSunshine

I would think this story debunks that one. If he were a member there would have been some type of electronic footprint left that would have given credence to the man's story. The FBI would have been all over it.



posted on Jun, 24 2016 @ 11:40 AM
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a reply to: xuenchen

All part and parcel of the effort to make the FBI look inept so that when Hillary is pardoned by Obama, he can say that he knew all along that it was merely a mistake and national security was never endangered.

Obama (being the constitutional scholar that he is) is then installed into the open Supreme court spot (by Hillary) and when all of the questionable laws arise around the 'national health emergency' that is 'gun violence' he can uphold each and every one of them.
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posted on Jun, 24 2016 @ 11:50 AM
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a reply to: NewzNose

WOW .....Phil Haney lays it out quite nice and makes very good points .The compartmentalzed agencies are filtered so that the left can't know what the right hand is doing . I am changing my prayers from Bernie to the Donald . He is the only one saying anything even close to being on point .The give away is that Obama's friendly ties to the Muslim Brotherhood and Hitlery's funds coming out of SA and her corrupt nature paints the left as a bunch of wakadoodles .Bernie saying he will vote for Hitlery is just one more nail in the coffin .. Thanks for that YT link ...every one needs to see it ..


SM2

posted on Jun, 24 2016 @ 11:50 AM
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a reply to: SallieSunshine

Well it hasnt been debunked to my knowledge, but it was always flimsy at best.

One dude wearing a mask and a false name makes a claim which has no supporting evidence. So we just take the guys word for it? The only other person that has said that he is gay is his ex wife's current fiancee and he said "he may be gay" the ex however continues to say she doesnt know. then the FBI finds no digital footprint of him in gay bars, gay dating sight companies can not verify that it was his account.

Him being gay or not actually doesnt change that he affiliated himself with ISIS, it just takes the heat off the administration and their constant dodging of muslim terrorists . It also plays better with the new gun law agenda they have continued to push . No one would be willing to give up any guns or restrict access if they believe ISIS attacked American soil.



posted on Jun, 24 2016 @ 11:53 AM
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The FBI never seems to find anything
I guess they can't even find the bi in FBI



posted on Jun, 24 2016 @ 12:04 PM
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Unnamed sources say . . . blah, blah, blah.

Also said: "But law enforcement sources did say that investigators have not uncovered any direct links between Mateen and members of Islamic State."

Ever heard of "Go Phones"?

I'm not taking sides, but this article proves nothing.






edit on 24-6-2016 by Annee because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 24 2016 @ 01:25 PM
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Thanks, I found the stories unbelievable, but not exactly surprising.
The leftist hegemony and their press will do anything to defend their Islamist darlings.
That's been apparent in Europe for quite a while, especially after the Cologne attacks, and blatant attempts to squash the story, obfuscate the migrant backgrounds of the accused (and disgusting attempts to shift the blame on to local German men, who were themselves assaulted).
And masses of people see it as a trend of censoring and twisting stories, and painting critics as "racists".
In Germany you often hear: "Luegenpresse!" (Liar's or lying press.)
The left has gone to far in its bias, and faces mass defections and is losing the political middle.

Same with the Orlando shooter.
No proof but hearsay, and the reasons given by the Orlando shooter were totally obfuscated.
Blame the victims; it was all a crime of gay self-hatred.
When Scott Lively did the same and blamed the Nazi murder of gays on homosexual Nazis the left still stood by gay people.
But now they use the same tactics to defend ideologies that openly call for the death of gays, claim women are subhuman, and are happy that this belief should invade Western countries.

Some may be more at risk of Islamist ideology, but people have joined that cult from all genders, sexual orientations and races.
It's happened to ethnic Germans and British people (who went to the Islamic state after three weeks of conversion), and yes I'm sure the homoerotic content of the cult has a subconscious appeal for young men struggling with their sexuality (although that's far from being openly and functionally "gay" or "bisexual").

But ultimately it's a beguiling cult, and it can have horrific results.
And yeah, the brainwashing can happen online.
That shouldn't be swept under the carpet or made a secondary issue.
If that jerk said he did it for ISIS in the transcripts, then I take his word for it.
Everything else is inconsequential, or a footnote at best.


edit on 24-6-2016 by halfoldman because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 24 2016 @ 01:59 PM
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a reply to: Annee

It is very revealing how the left will go out of their way to delude themsleves and others into labeling this worthless islamic terrorist as being a gay man without any concrete evidence but insist on believing his motives were not motivated by islam despite overwhlming concrete evidence.

The gay community does not deserve to have this worthless muslim terrorist labeled as a fellow gay man by propagandists trying to defelect his islamic motivation.

The muslim community owns this terrorist and his beliefs.

It just proves yet again how leftists value muslim terrorists more than gay americans.
edit on 24-6-2016 by Deny Arrogance because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 24 2016 @ 02:05 PM
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‘No evidence’ for gay claims about Orlando shooter – FBI

FBI basically says now that all Gays are liars, deceitful, and untrustworthy witnesses.

They have dismissed all the reports coming from gays that claim that they saw Mateen at the Pulse club, that Mateen contacted them by phone apps, that Mateen hit on them and tried to date them, that Mateen had any gay lovers.

Aparently, the homosexuals are the worst eyewitnesses among the humans, so much so, that every single one of them has now been dismissed.

The only people the FBI trusts are the "straight men" and "straight women" that claim Mateen said something indicating Islamic Jihadist leanings.

Message is clear, "straight" people are "honest", and "gays" are "dishonest".

Wow!


edit on 24-6-2016 by AMPTAH because: (no reason given)



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