Mark of the Beast Study (Sequence Study)

a reply to: NightSkyeB4Dawn

But be precise, the verse doesn't say we will carry the chip, it will be imbedded. It will also cause a grievous sore to anyone trying to remove it.

originally posted by: NOTurTypical
a reply to: NightSkyeB4Dawn

But be precise, the verse doesn't say we will carry the chip, it will be imbedded. It will also cause a grievous sore to anyone trying to remove it.

According to the King James Version

The Mark of the Beast
16And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 17And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. 18Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

It doesn't say it was imbedded. But everyone interprets the word the way it speaks to them, so it is likely right for you.

I believe some will have it imbedded. Some will carry it, and some will be so well known, that it will not be required.

That is just the way I see it.

a reply to: NightSkyeB4Dawn

Well, if you go precisely by the Greek the "mark" is a stamp/branding or imbedded etching and in the hand or forehead. Further details add to that, that the mark will be required at the beginning of the "great tribulation" which Christ says Himself is the mid-point of the 7 year period, and adding further Revelation 13 says that "no man" will be able to either buy something nor sell something without it.

Therefore it must be tied to a global monetary system of some sort. To me that means a cashless society. If it weren't cashless, you could buy something with currency or precious metals.

To figure out the mark of the beast you first need to find out:

1) What is a beast according to the Bible? (Dan 7:23)

2) What is a mark according to the Bible? (Deu 6:6-8)

3) Who exactly is the beast spoken of? (RCC)

4) What is his mark? (Sunday Sabbath)

a reply to: ScatteredThirdAngel

No, the pope very well could be the false prophet, the antichrist will be a Muslim. The 3 nations he subdues are Lebanon, Syria, and Iraq. 3 of the 33 titles to Bible uses for him are Muslim names. Furthermore, this isn't the old covenant, we worship God 7 days a week "in spirit and truth" and not in any specific location or building. Jesus explained that to the woman at the well.

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originally posted by: NOTurTypical
a reply to: ScatteredThirdAngel

No, the pope very well could be the false prophet, the antichrist will be a Muslim. The 3 nations he subdues are Lebanon, Syria, and Iraq. 3 of the 33 titles to Bible uses for him are Muslim names. Furthermore, this isn't the old covenant, we worship God 7 days a week "in spirit and truth" and not in any specific location or building. Jesus explained that to the woman at the well.

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The Pope is not the false prophet. This is a false interpretation that was manufactured to counteract the Protestant Reformation. Martin Luther, among many other Protestants, and even those who rejected the Catholic Church before the Protestant Movement, knew the Catholic Church was the Antichrist System. That mammoth system of deception whom all the world is bowing down to is the Antichrist.

The false prophet ... That's Apostate Protestantism. The Protestant Churches are bowing down to the Antichrist, and are preaching the same lies that the Catholic Church penned hundreds of years ago. Even the doctrines of the Roman Catholic Church are being preached from Protestant pulpits. And the Protestant Churches will eventually promote the mark of the beast, that is, they will eventually promote Sunday Worship by law, which is the law of the Roman Catholic Church alone.

a reply to: ScatteredThirdAngel

Basics of Greek language prove you wrong. When it says "the false prophet" and "the Beast" it's using the definite article "hu". In Greek that means "a unique one, different from any other or type". Now don't twist scripture to suit your denominational dogma. John told us what the "spirit of antichrist" was, they would deny 2 things:

1. That Jesus Christ came in the flesh. (Divinity of Christ)
2. The relationship between the Father and the Son. (The Trinity)

So let's not twist the Word of God so I won't become unglued at your doctrine of demons. Every cult and false religion on the planet and even secular humanism denies those two things.

"THE" false prophet is a man who will cause people to worship the image of the beast, and he will do false signs and wonders not limited to, causing fire to fall from heaven. The false prophet is also a "lamb with two horns", meaning it will be a pseudo-Christian leader who will affirm as true those two denials above, and will join with the beast empire.

a reply to: ScatteredThirdAngel

Three of the titles the Bible uses for the antichrist are:

1. King of Babylon
2. King of Tyre
3. The Assyrian

And we learn as well that when he comes to power he will subdue Iraq, Syria, and Lebanon. That's not the Vatican, that's not the EU, those are 99% Muslim dominated nations. Listen to any number of Muslims who converted to Christianity and they will tell you their Islamic Escaetology is the mirror image in reverse of Daniel and Revelation, except their Mahdi, 12th Imam, is their good guy and Jesus (Issa) will join him to teach that he isn't God and he isn't the Son of God. That their end times Eschaetology is shockingly similar yet the roles are reversed.

Watch some Walid Shoebat on YouTube.

originally posted by: NOTurTypical
a reply to: ScatteredThirdAngel

Basics of Greek language prove you wrong. When it says "the false prophet" and "the Beast" it's using the definite article "hu". In Greek that means "a unique one, different from any other or type". Now don't twist scripture to suit your denominational dogma. John told us what the "spirit of antichrist" was, they would deny 2 things:

1. That Jesus Christ came in the flesh. (Divinity of Christ)
2. The relationship between the Father and the Son. (The Trinity)

So let's not twist the Word of God so I won't become unglued at your doctrine of demons. Every cult and false religion on the planet and even secular humanism denies those two things.

"THE" false prophet is a man who will cause people to worship the image of the beast, and he will do false signs and wonders not limited to, causing fire to fall from heaven. The false prophet is also a "lamb with two horns", meaning it will be a pseudo-Christian leader who will affirm as true those two denials above, and will join with the beast empire.

Simple Scripture proves beyond a shadow of a doubt who the antichrist is. There is no institution on this planet that fulfills all the prophecies of antichrist the way the Roman Catholic Church does. No institution is so filled with the blood of God's dear saints, filled with such heinous blasphemy, perverting the doctrine of salvation by grace through faith, re-constructing God's law, denying even the Lord Jesus came in our flesh, along with the incorporation of many pagan doctrines into the faith (which they blatantly admit), and pagan rites into the church. There is no power on this planet that is antichrist, save the Catholic Church. Other interpretations may attempt to prove the Catholic Church is not antichrist, but absolutely no institution, and I mean literally none, fulfills all the prophecies the way the Catholic Church does.

It is good you connect the false prophet with the lamb with two horns. This is exactly right. But you have to realize the symbols that are thus given in the Scriptures. The Lamblike (Christian) beast (Kingdom/nation) that speaks as a dragon (Satan). America is that very nation that arose out of the earth around the time that the Catholic Church was put out of commission by General Berthier in 1798.

Revelation 13:9-11 If any man have an ear, let him hear. 10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints. 11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

John 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.

Revelation 20:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,

Daniel 7:23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.

What does Apostate Protestantism have in common with the lamb-like beast? The fallen churches of Protestantism, which are no longer in protest against antichrist Rome, are located within the lamb-like beast. They fit the description of the false prophet perfectly. There is no Protest against Romanism going on anymore. The church is joining hands with Rome, and preaching her heresies. There is only one thing left to do for the honest at heart who are still stuck within these churches.

Revelation 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

Come out of her. She is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils. She is imbibing the errors of Rome, she is not lifting her voice up any longer. Christ is not within the midst of the fallen Protestant Churches. She is fallen, she is fallen!

a reply to: ScatteredThirdAngel

So who was killing the OT saints of God? The RCC wasn't around until the 4th century.

You're confused dude, the beast empire is Islam, they are also a religion and a state. The caliphate is also the revival of the eastern leg of the Roman Empire, it lasted 1000 years after the western leg, it's called the Ottoman Turkish Empire. Allah isn't some new God from the 7t century, it's a repackaged deity from ancient Babylon, the moon God.

You guys are all hung up on that Rome is the "City of Seven Hills", good for you. Did you know that's not the only city on seven hills? Wanna know the other one? Medina in Saudi Arabia.

So no matter how bad you want to twist the Word of God to deny the two things John explained were the key statements or creeds of the spirit of antichrist, denial of the deity of Chriat and denial of the Trinity, you can't make Sunday worship the mark of the beast. For crying out loud, you guys don't even keep the Sabbath according to the Mosaic Law.

And I'm not saying the RCC and apostate Christianity won't be judged, they will. Judgment must first come to the house of God, they're apostates, the Laodecian Church. But that's why he lamb has TWO horns, the false prophet. Catholicism and apostate Christianity/Eucaminical movement.

originally posted by: NOTurTypical
a reply to: ScatteredThirdAngel

So who was killing the OT saints of God? The RCC wasn't around until the 4th century.

You're confused dude, the beast empire is Islam, they are also a religion and a state. The caliphate is also the revival of the eastern leg of the Roman Empire, it lasted 1000 years after the western leg, it's called the Ottoman Turkish Empire. Allah isn't some new God from the 7t century, it's a repackaged deity from ancient Babylon, the moon God.

You guys are all hung up on that Rome is the "City of Seven Hills", good for you. Did you know that's not the only city on seven hills? Wanna know the other one? Medina in Saudi Arabia.

So no matter how bad you want to twist the Word of God to deny the two things John explained were the key statements or creeds of the spirit of antichrist, denial of the deity of Chriat and denial of the Trinity, you can't make Sunday worship the mark of the beast. For crying out loud, you guys don't even keep the Sabbath according to the Mosaic Law.

And I'm not saying the RCC nod apostate Christianity won't be judged, they will. Judgment must first come to the house of God, they're apostates, the Laodecian Church. But that's why he lamb has TWO horns, the false prophet. Catholicism and apostate Christianity/Eucaminical movement.

First off, Islam was created by the Vatican.

remnantofgod.org...

Next, the Trinity is the central dogma of the Catholic Religion. It is not founded upon Bible Scripture. And no, I am not denying the divinity of Christ. Christ is the Son of God, Divine, the I AM. But the trinity is a false doctrine, taught by the Roman Catholic Church. And yet, the Catholic Church does not deny the trinity. But she does deny the divinity of Christ.

There are three that bear record in heaven, according to the Scriptures. So that there is not only literally one God, but there are indeed Three that do bear Record in Heaven. They are the Father, The Word, and the Holy Ghost. And these three are one. Literally one? No. They are one in character, purpose, agreement, but not in person. There is not only literally one God. There are three. And they are one in agreement. Perfectly in one even, (not one God) being all Divine, and all perfect.

1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

John 17:20-21 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word; 21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.

a reply to: ScatteredThirdAngel

You're a heretic. The triune nature of God is evident from the first chapter in Genesis.

We're done here, have a good day.

originally posted by: ScatteredThirdAngel
To figure out the mark of the beast you first need to find out:

1) What is a beast according to the Bible? (Dan 7:23)

2) What is a mark according to the Bible? (Deu 6:6-8)

3) Who exactly is the beast spoken of? (RCC)

4) What is his mark? (Sunday Sabbath)

And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

The sea is described in the bible to be a multitude of People......" The first beast will represent a multitude of People".
These People will be ruled by ten kings.

The ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.

"These ten kings" have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast (the multitude of People /nations).

These ten kings are the head of the beast (the political head of the multitude of People/nations). One man will be granted the authority to speak on behalf of all the other 9 kings.

The ten kings will be the master mind of the Beast.... Which all of you will fallow. The beast in question is all of you. You will all fallow the ten kings, becasue that is what you do, you fallow. And you will make sure People will not be able to:.. buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

You will do as the ten kings demand by their laws, and you will: causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads.

Who else will do it if you wont?

Its not like 7,4 billion People will be lined up in front of the Vatican to recive a stamp.

originally posted by: Rapha
In terms of SG and the Mark of the Beast, it seems that one character chose to have the Mark stamped on his forehead.

No prizes for guessing who that was. Lol

Indeed.

originally posted by: spy66

originally posted by: ScatteredThirdAngel
To figure out the mark of the beast you first need to find out:

1) What is a beast according to the Bible? (Dan 7:23)

2) What is a mark according to the Bible? (Deu 6:6-8)

3) Who exactly is the beast spoken of? (RCC)

4) What is his mark? (Sunday Sabbath)

And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

The sea is described in the bible to be a multitude of People......" The first beast will represent a multitude of People".
These People will be ruled by ten kings.

The ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.

"These ten kings" have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast (the multitude of People /nations).

These ten kings are the head of the beast (the political head of the multitude of People/nations). One man will be granted the authority to speak on behalf of all the other 9 kings.

The ten kings will be the master mind of the Beast.... Which all of you will fallow. The beast in question is all of you. You will all fallow the ten kings, becasue that is what you do, you fallow. And you will make sure People will not be able to:.. buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

You will do as the ten kings demand by their laws, and you will: causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads.

Who else will do it if you wont?

Its not like 7,4 billion People will be lined up in front of the Vatican to recive a stamp.

The mark of the beast is not "a stamp". People will not line up before the Vatican to receive "a stamp". What they will do however, is obey the government enforced law, the mark of the beast, which is a Vatican Law, founded only upon Catholic principles, wherein all will have to bow.. That's how you get the mark of the beast. When it is enforced by law, and everyone is caused to receive it.

The mark won't be physically on people, in the sense that we can find a literal application of it on our hands and forehead. Consider these verses, because they are very interesting:

Proverbs 1:8-9 My son, hear the instruction of thy father, and forsake not the law of thy mother: 9 For they shall be an ornament of grace unto thy head, and chains about thy neck.

Note these things. The instruction of the father, the law of the mother are as an ornament of grace to the head, and chains about the neck. These things are not literal.

Proverbs 3:1-3 My son, forget not my law; but let thine heart keep my commandments: 2 For length of days, and long life, and peace, shall they add to thee. 3 Let not mercy and truth forsake thee: bind them about thy neck; write them upon the table of thine heart:

The law, the commandments, mercy and truth, are to be bound about the neck, and written upon the table of the heart. These things are not literal.

Proverbs 6:20-23 My son, keep thy father's commandment, and forsake not the law of thy mother: 21 Bind them continually upon thine heart, and tie them about thy neck. 22 When thou goest, it shall lead thee; when thou sleepest, it shall keep thee; and when thou awakest, it shall talk with thee. 23 For the commandment is a lamp; and the law is light; and reproofs of instruction are the way of life:

These things are not literal applications, but spiritual. The Scriptures say, "The commandment is a lamp; and the law is light; and reproofs of instruction are the way of life."

Proverbs 7:1-3 My son, keep my words, and lay up my commandments with thee. 2 Keep my commandments, and live; and my law as the apple of thine eye. 3 Bind them upon thy fingers, write them upon the table of thine heart.

His words, his commandments, his law were to be bound upon the fingers, and written upon the table of the heart. Again, these things are not literal applications. This one hits closer to home for the mark of the beast than the previous ones. But this next one...

Deuteronomy 6:6-8 And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart: 7 And thou shalt teach them diligently unto thy children, and shalt talk of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up. 8 And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thine hand, and they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes.

Sounds familiar, eh? There's more.

Deuteronomy 11:13 And it shall come to pass, if ye shall hearken diligently unto my commandments which I command you this day, to love the LORD your God, and to serve him with all your heart and with all your soul,

Deuteronomy 11:18 Therefore shall ye lay up these my words in your heart and in your soul, and bind them for a sign upon your hand, that they may be as frontlets between your eyes.

The seal of God is not going to be a physical mark upon our skin. And neither will the mark of the beast. The mark of the beast that goes on the forehead and hands, is literally a commandment that the children of this world choose to obey, over and above the commandments of God. What is God's sign, or seal?

Exodus 31:13 Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the LORD that doth sanctify you.

Ezekiel 20:12 Moreover also I gave them my sabbaths, to be a sign between me and them, that they might know that I am the LORD that sanctify them.

Ezekiel 20:20 And hallow my sabbaths; and they shall be a sign between me and you, that ye may know that I am the LORD your God.

God blatantly tells us that the Sabbath is a sign between Him and his children. And the beast literally does the same exact thing.

"Sunday is our MARK of authority. . .the church is above the Bible, and this transference of Sabbath observance is proof of that fact" Catholic Record of London, Ontario Sept 1,1923.

"Of course the Catholic Church claims that the change (Saturday Sabbath to Sunday) was her act... And the act is a MARK of her ecclesiastical authority in religious things." H.F. Thomas, Chancellor of Cardinal Gibbons. Nov. 11, 1895

"Is not yet too late for Protestants to redeem themselves. Will they do it?... will they indeed take the written word only, the Scripture alone, as their sole authority and their sole standard? Or will they still hold the indefensible, self contradictory, and suicidal doctrine and practice of following the authority of the Catholic church and wear the SIGN of her authority? Will they keep the Sabbath of the Lord, the seventh day, according to Scripture? Or will they keep the Sunday according to the tradition of the Catholic church, --Rome's Challenge, (Why do Protestants keep Sunday?), page 31

Silly it is to think a mark on the hand is a crescent moon... and the one on the head an inverted crescent moon... just thinking aloud.

a reply to: ScatteredThirdAngel

Will they keep the Sabbath of the Lord, the seventh day, according to Scripture?

You guys don't even keep the Sabbath according to scripture. You can't keep the Sabbath according to scripture by going to church and not doing all the other commands for the Sabbath.. IN THE SCRIPTURES.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

This is a typical pretextual study, meaning that he forces his preconceived Idea or opinion onto the Bible text in order to convince us that it is a true doctrine of the Bible.

originally posted by: ChesterJohn
a reply to: Krazysh0t

This is a typical pretextual study, meaning that he forces his preconceived Idea or opinion onto the Bible text in order to convince us that it is a true doctrine of the Bible.

Everyone in history has done that. Our job, like the Bereans, is to search the scriptures and see if these things be so.