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New Rule Requires Doctors To Treat Trans Patients As Their Pretend Sex

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posted on Jun, 24 2016 @ 09:20 PM
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a reply to: WeAre0ne

But really you don't know. As others have stated as such too.

Besides:
"Compare intersex people with normal people"????

What the heck does that even mean?

Then at the end you acted like a child.




posted on Jun, 24 2016 @ 09:24 PM
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originally posted by: Deaf Alien
Sighs. You still don't get it.


No, you don't get how idiotic your question is. It's ok, I forgive you and your lack of understanding.


originally posted by: Deaf Alien
Anyway this:


If they know and accept they have a male body, and can get male related cancer, then why can't they accept being called a male?

See? You are implying that they are too stupid to realize that. They KNOW they have male body. What you FAIL to understand is that they are born with a gender identity. All the rule states is that the doctors have to call them by their preferred pronouns, even though BOTH know the biology.


I am not implying anyone is stupid. It's a question regarding their own acceptance of their situation. They accept their body is male or female, so why don't they accept being called male or female? Its really a simple question that you hilariously can't seem to grasp.

You say, "they are born with a gender identity". What the freak are you even talking about? They are born with mental disorder thinking they are something they are not. They shall be called male or female based on their chromosomes, their biology, which manifests itself with male or female body parts. NOT THEIR BRAIN.



posted on Jun, 24 2016 @ 09:25 PM
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a reply to: WeAre0ne



You say, "they are born with a gender identity". What the freak are you even talking about? They are born with mental disorder thinking they are something they are not. They shall be called male or female based on their chromosomes, their biology, which manifests itself with male or female body parts. NOT THEIR BRAIN.


Proving once again you lack understanding.

Go ask a doctor or a psychiatrist to explain a very very very simple basic concept to you.



posted on Jun, 24 2016 @ 09:26 PM
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originally posted by: Deaf Alien

But really you don't know. As others have stated as such too.

Besides:
"Compare intersex people with normal people"????

What the heck does that even mean?

Then at the end you acted like a child.


Others are clearly delusional.

What does it mean? It means intersex people only make up 0.05% of the population. That means it is abnormal to be born chromosomes other than XX or XY.

Why do I even need to state such simple facts? Are you people so insecure that you can't accept the fact that intersex is an abnormal condition?



posted on Jun, 24 2016 @ 09:26 PM
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They accept their body is male or female, so why don't they accept being called male or female?

B E C A U S E

T H E I R

B R A I N S

T E L L

T H E M

D I F F E R E N T L Y

And besides there aren't just XX and XY you know?



posted on Jun, 24 2016 @ 09:27 PM
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originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: SisterDelirium



doctors shouldn't feel under a threat of lawsuit for saying the wrong pronoun or failing to give in to delusions.

There's nothing to be worried about. Odds are you have met transgender people and you never knew it until they told you. You might have said Ma'am or Sir to them and not realizing it.


Don't really care and this isn't really relevant as I'm not their doctor.

Being polite in social situations and using the desired pronoun has nothing to do with a medical professional doing likewise.

In short, if you're seeing a physician who doesn't even know you biological gender...you might want to check their credentials.



posted on Jun, 24 2016 @ 09:27 PM
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a reply to: Deaf Alien

So according to that post, I can conclude you read some half-assed non peer reviewed study about male and female brains on the internet, now you are some expert, and suggest all doctors and psychiatrists agree.

LOL this is too funny.



posted on Jun, 24 2016 @ 09:28 PM
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What does it mean? It means intersex people only make up 0.05% of the population. That means it is abnormal to be born chromosomes other than XX or XY.

And the point is?

Gingers and left handedness are abnormal too.



posted on Jun, 24 2016 @ 09:29 PM
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originally posted by: Teikiatsu

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: 123143
a reply to: Teikiatsu

So, how does that work for Pap smears and prostate checks?


Transgenders KNOW their bodies.

Really, people?


Then why don't they accept the reality of their situation?


They do.

Gender is in the brain. The brain tells you who you are.

There are methods for those with Gender Dysphoria to alter their physical body to align with the Gender they identify with.



posted on Jun, 24 2016 @ 09:29 PM
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a reply to: WeAre0ne

Nope I've known a few transgender people and I have actually talked with experts in real life. I've read medical journals.



posted on Jun, 24 2016 @ 09:31 PM
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a reply to: SisterDelirium



In short, if you're seeing a physician who doesn't even know you biological gender...you might want to check their credentials.

Nobody has claimed as such.

I'm pretty sure the doctors would know once they check them out. More sure that they would have already known beforehand by their records, especially when it comes to sex change operations.



posted on Jun, 24 2016 @ 09:31 PM
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originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: WeAre0ne



They accept their body is male or female, so why don't they accept being called male or female?

B E C A U S E

T H E I R

B R A I N S

T E L L

T H E M

D I F F E R E N T L Y

And besides there aren't just XX and XY you know?


Yes, and their brains are wrong. It's called "gender dysphoria", its a mental disorder, and its listed in "The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM)" by psychiatrists and doctors.


Yes I do know there is more than just XX and XY, they are called intersex, and I have been talking about them for the last few posts with you. Are you even present? Are you paying attention? Where have you been these past few posts?

You just tried to compare people who aren't XX or XY with people who are, and I am calling you out on it. How did you miss that part?
edit on 24-6-2016 by WeAre0ne because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 24 2016 @ 09:33 PM
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originally posted by: Teikiatsu

originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: Teikiatsu



Then why don't they accept the reality of their situation?


Are you that dense? They do not deny their biology. But their brains (yes it's biology) is of the opposite gender.


They *think* they are of the opposite gender. There is a difference.


NO, they know exactly what Gender they are.



posted on Jun, 24 2016 @ 09:33 PM
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a reply to: WeAre0ne

I've been paying attention. You apparently haven't.

You still cling to the delusion that gender identity is a make believe. Gender dysphoria is not an illness. If you really knew biology and psychiatry you would already know that.



posted on Jun, 24 2016 @ 09:34 PM
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originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: WeAre0ne



What does it mean? It means intersex people only make up 0.05% of the population. That means it is abnormal to be born chromosomes other than XX or XY.

And the point is?

Gingers and left handedness are abnormal too.


Yes, I agree, gingers, and left handedness is abnormal too. Maybe you should learn to read so I don't have to explain why I have stated such a fact.



posted on Jun, 24 2016 @ 09:35 PM
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Yes, I agree, gingers, and left handedness is abnormal too. Maybe you should learn to read so I don't have to explain why I have stated such a fact.

Well ok then? What is the point?

Many things are abnormal. So what? Not sure what point you are trying to make.



posted on Jun, 24 2016 @ 09:35 PM
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originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: SisterDelirium



In short, if you're seeing a physician who doesn't even know you biological gender...you might want to check their credentials.

Nobody has claimed as such.

I'm pretty sure the doctors would know once they check them out. More sure that they would have already known beforehand by their records, especially when it comes to sex change operations.


Kind of my point there...

You still haven't told me what that last sentence in the DHHS summary looks like as a real-world application...

Care to educate all us backwards cis-folk who still cling to the bizarre and outmoded idea that biological sex is more important than perceived sex in a medical environment?



posted on Jun, 24 2016 @ 09:36 PM
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originally posted by: daryllyn

"Get your facts away from my truth"


Great statement



posted on Jun, 24 2016 @ 09:37 PM
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originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: WeAre0ne




Yes, I agree, gingers, and left handedness is abnormal too. Maybe you should learn to read so I don't have to explain why I have stated such a fact.

Well ok then? What is the point?

Many things are abnormal. So what? Not sure what point you are trying to make.


Another member asked me to define normal. So I did. Now you are giving me crap about it. Learn to read.



posted on Jun, 24 2016 @ 09:38 PM
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originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: WeAre0ne



They accept their body is male or female, so why don't they accept being called male or female?

B E C A U S E

T H E I R

B R A I N S

T E L L

T H E M

D I F F E R E N T L Y


B U T

W H Y

S H O U L D

W E

B E

F O R C E D

T O

P R O M O T E

A N D

R E I N F O R C E

T H E I R

B R A I N ' S

C O N F U S I O N ?


And besides there aren't just XX and XY you know?


And they are exceptionally rare incidence that don't even deserve the term 'outlier'



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