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White House: Obama ‘Profoundly Frustrated’ — Ready For More Executive Action On Gun Control

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posted on Jun, 23 2016 @ 01:48 PM
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a reply to: SudoNim

Gun Facts

Here are some great facts from this page. Facts that the MSM and some politicians choose to leave out.

"Guns are used more than 80x's more often to protect a life than to take one."

"In 1982, Kennesaw, Georgia passed a law requiring heads of households to keep at least one firearm in the house. The residential burglary rate subsequently dropped 89% in Kennesaw, compared to just 10.4% drop in Georgia as a whole."

"In fact, the 9 European nations with the lowest gun ownership rate have a combined murder rate 3x that of the 9 European nations with the highest gun ownership rate!"

We see how often a gun is used to destroy lives. We don't see how often they are used to save lives.
We don't see the numbers on whose house got broke into. A known gun owner, or someone who is known for being against gun ownership?

What I don't see is anyone trying to shoot up the crowds at Bass Pro where even grandma is open carrying.

Per the above link, 200,000 women are not raped every year because they had and used a gun to protect themselves. Would you rather they just don't struggle and think happy thoughts to make it easier for everyone?


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posted on Jun, 23 2016 @ 01:56 PM
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originally posted by: Ahabstar
If the government is going to shread the constitution and strip the rights of the people then the terrorists have already won.


how about stripping the rights of terrorists and nut-jobs to buy guns......can't wait to hear your opinion when they massacre 49 white Christian children, and wound 53 others.



posted on Jun, 23 2016 @ 02:13 PM
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a reply to: SudoNim

Take your safety back to cuckville.

I do not care about your safety as much as I care about my freedom.

Move to China if you don't like my freedom. They have suicide "safety" nets there. They are really safe in China.

If you are not man enough to take charge of your own self defense, then I cannot help you. Really what you are saying is you want another more testosterone filled man with a gun to protect you, IE the police.



posted on Jun, 23 2016 @ 02:44 PM
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originally posted by: jimmyx

originally posted by: Ahabstar
If the government is going to shread the constitution and strip the rights of the people then the terrorists have already won.


how about stripping the rights of terrorists and nut-jobs to buy guns......can't wait to hear your opinion when they massacre 49 white Christian children, and wound 53 others.


How do you stop somebody from getting illegal guns?




posted on Jun, 23 2016 @ 02:47 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: jimmyx

originally posted by: Ahabstar
If the government is going to shread the constitution and strip the rights of the people then the terrorists have already won.


how about stripping the rights of terrorists and nut-jobs to buy guns......can't wait to hear your opinion when they massacre 49 white Christian children, and wound 53 others.


How do you stop somebody from getting illegal guns?


Why the same way that you stop people from getting illegal drugs.... you have a war on guns.

Ever since they had that war on drugs, they are completely unavailable, you know?



posted on Jun, 23 2016 @ 02:56 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: jimmyx

originally posted by: Ahabstar
If the government is going to shread the constitution and strip the rights of the people then the terrorists have already won.


how about stripping the rights of terrorists and nut-jobs to buy guns......can't wait to hear your opinion when they massacre 49 white Christian children, and wound 53 others.


How do you stop somebody from getting illegal guns?



ANY terrorist, criminal, or mentally ill person, can just walk into a gun show and buy any weapon available. and you're worried about illegal guns???.......you're funny



posted on Jun, 23 2016 @ 02:59 PM
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originally posted by: jimmyx

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: jimmyx

originally posted by: Ahabstar
If the government is going to shread the constitution and strip the rights of the people then the terrorists have already won.


how about stripping the rights of terrorists and nut-jobs to buy guns......can't wait to hear your opinion when they massacre 49 white Christian children, and wound 53 others.


How do you stop somebody from getting illegal guns?



ANY terrorist, criminal, or mentally ill person, can just walk into a gun show and buy any weapon available. and you're worried about illegal guns???.......you're funny



Actually no they cant. The only way they can get a gun at a gun show is to purchase it from a private seller, which is to say the exact same way they can just purchase it from anyone via the local newspaper, Craigslist, or any other means that a private seller would connect with a buyer. Dealers at gun shows are FFL deals and have to run background checks.



posted on Jun, 23 2016 @ 03:03 PM
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originally posted by: Ahabstar
If the government is going to shread the constitution and strip the rights of the people then the terrorists have already won.


so, to all you terrorists and wanna-bes here in America, be sure and stock up on all the weapons you want, the republicans have got your back.



posted on Jun, 23 2016 @ 03:14 PM
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originally posted by: jimmyx

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: jimmyx

originally posted by: Ahabstar
If the government is going to shread the constitution and strip the rights of the people then the terrorists have already won.


how about stripping the rights of terrorists and nut-jobs to buy guns......can't wait to hear your opinion when they massacre 49 white Christian children, and wound 53 others.


How do you stop somebody from getting illegal guns?



ANY terrorist, criminal, or mentally ill person, can just walk into a gun show and buy any weapon available. and you're worried about illegal guns???.......you're funny


LOL

Criminals can get guns anywhere.

Most illegal guns sold to criminals in big cities are not at shows.

Get real.




posted on Jun, 23 2016 @ 03:16 PM
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originally posted by: Dragoon01

originally posted by: jimmyx

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: jimmyx

originally posted by: Ahabstar
If the government is going to shread the constitution and strip the rights of the people then the terrorists have already won.


how about stripping the rights of terrorists and nut-jobs to buy guns......can't wait to hear your opinion when they massacre 49 white Christian children, and wound 53 others.


How do you stop somebody from getting illegal guns?



ANY terrorist, criminal, or mentally ill person, can just walk into a gun show and buy any weapon available. and you're worried about illegal guns???.......you're funny



Actually no they cant. The only way they can get a gun at a gun show is to purchase it from a private seller, which is to say the exact same way they can just purchase it from anyone via the local newspaper, Craigslist, or any other means that a private seller would connect with a buyer. Dealers at gun shows are FFL deals and have to run background checks.


dealers?.....gun sellers DO NOT have to be dealers at gun shows...and the majority of states where gun shows happen do not require background checks...
www.governing.com...
scroll down to the map



posted on Jun, 23 2016 @ 03:20 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: jimmyx

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: jimmyx

originally posted by: Ahabstar
If the government is going to shread the constitution and strip the rights of the people then the terrorists have already won.


how about stripping the rights of terrorists and nut-jobs to buy guns......can't wait to hear your opinion when they massacre 49 white Christian children, and wound 53 others.


How do you stop somebody from getting illegal guns?



ANY terrorist, criminal, or mentally ill person, can just walk into a gun show and buy any weapon available. and you're worried about illegal guns???.......you're funny


LOL

Criminals can get guns anywhere.

Most illegal guns sold to criminals in big cities are not at shows.

Get real.


Some of those criminals got their guns courtesy of the Obama Administration.... Fast and Furious!!!



posted on Jun, 23 2016 @ 03:20 PM
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a reply to: jimmyx

Do they have gun shows 24 hours a day every day in all small cities and towns?




posted on Jun, 23 2016 @ 03:21 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: jimmyx

Do they have gun shows 24 hours a day every day in all small cities and towns?


Like Walmart!



posted on Jun, 23 2016 @ 03:21 PM
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originally posted by: jimmyx

originally posted by: Dragoon01

originally posted by: jimmyx

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: jimmyx

originally posted by: Ahabstar
If the government is going to shread the constitution and strip the rights of the people then the terrorists have already won.


how about stripping the rights of terrorists and nut-jobs to buy guns......can't wait to hear your opinion when they massacre 49 white Christian children, and wound 53 others.


How do you stop somebody from getting illegal guns?



ANY terrorist, criminal, or mentally ill person, can just walk into a gun show and buy any weapon available. and you're worried about illegal guns???.......you're funny



Actually no they cant. The only way they can get a gun at a gun show is to purchase it from a private seller, which is to say the exact same way they can just purchase it from anyone via the local newspaper, Craigslist, or any other means that a private seller would connect with a buyer. Dealers at gun shows are FFL deals and have to run background checks.


dealers?.....gun sellers DO NOT have to be dealers at gun shows...and the majority of states where gun shows happen do not require background checks...
www.governing.com...
scroll down to the map


Link no working.

Must be fake.




posted on Jun, 23 2016 @ 03:30 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: jimmyx

Do they have gun shows 24 hours a day every day in all small cities and towns?



what does that have to do with anything?



posted on Jun, 23 2016 @ 03:33 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: jimmyx

originally posted by: Dragoon01

originally posted by: jimmyx

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: jimmyx

originally posted by: Ahabstar
If the government is going to shread the constitution and strip the rights of the people then the terrorists have already won.


how about stripping the rights of terrorists and nut-jobs to buy guns......can't wait to hear your opinion when they massacre 49 white Christian children, and wound 53 others.


How do you stop somebody from getting illegal guns?



ANY terrorist, criminal, or mentally ill person, can just walk into a gun show and buy any weapon available. and you're worried about illegal guns???.......you're funny



Actually no they cant. The only way they can get a gun at a gun show is to purchase it from a private seller, which is to say the exact same way they can just purchase it from anyone via the local newspaper, Craigslist, or any other means that a private seller would connect with a buyer. Dealers at gun shows are FFL deals and have to run background checks.


dealers?.....gun sellers DO NOT have to be dealers at gun shows...and the majority of states where gun shows happen do not require background checks...
www.governing.com...
scroll down to the map


Link no working.

Must be fake.



www.governing.com...



posted on Jun, 23 2016 @ 03:39 PM
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I still don't understand why there is even an argument on what the legalities should be with firearms.

The ONLY people who the laws would affect are the law abiding citizens.

WHY would anyone want to disarm the LAW ABIDING citizens???



posted on Jun, 23 2016 @ 03:57 PM
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a reply to: mrsdudara



There are people who want to get rid of welfare because it costs too much and why should they have to pay for it. People who want to get rid of abortion because the death of babies is too awful to accept. People who wanted to ban gay marriage simply because they disagreed with it?

It's kinda like that... but with guns. Some people feel the cost is too great (in lives), too many dead innocent people, and why should they have to pay with their lives for something they have no interest in supporting?

I'm not saying I agree with it... But both sides are looking to infringe on the other's ideals.

My take is... We already know NSA is tracking us in EVERY way they can. I think we need better database filtering and notification systems. Better algorithms and effective escalation.



posted on Jun, 23 2016 @ 04:03 PM
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a reply to: mrsdudara


WHY would anyone want to disarm the LAW ABIDING citizens???


Because the lawmakers are not abiding by the laws they make and if enough of that keeps happening, those law abiding citizens will get fed up enough to put a permanent stop to the aforementioned lawmakers' actions through the use of the 2nd.
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SM2

posted on Jun, 23 2016 @ 04:12 PM
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originally posted by: jimmyx

originally posted by: Dragoon01

originally posted by: jimmyx

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: jimmyx

originally posted by: Ahabstar
If the government is going to shread the constitution and strip the rights of the people then the terrorists have already won.


how about stripping the rights of terrorists and nut-jobs to buy guns......can't wait to hear your opinion when they massacre 49 white Christian children, and wound 53 others.


How do you stop somebody from getting illegal guns?



ANY terrorist, criminal, or mentally ill person, can just walk into a gun show and buy any weapon available. and you're worried about illegal guns???.......you're funny



Actually no they cant. The only way they can get a gun at a gun show is to purchase it from a private seller, which is to say the exact same way they can just purchase it from anyone via the local newspaper, Craigslist, or any other means that a private seller would connect with a buyer. Dealers at gun shows are FFL deals and have to run background checks.


dealers?.....gun sellers DO NOT have to be dealers at gun shows...and the majority of states where gun shows happen do not require background checks...
www.governing.com...
scroll down to the map


Doesnt matter the state law buddy. It's Federal Law. I believe it reads like such, If you are in the business of selling, refurbishing or gunsmithing, you need to have an FFL. of course I am paraphrasing there, but thats the meat and potatoes of it. SO, basically if you are selling guns to make a profit, then by definition you are in business of selling guns, and therefore have to have an FFL and do background checks. Now, if you are cleaning out your closet and are selling that old shotgun you never use, that is a different story. Or, if you give a gun to your wife, son, grandpa whatever.

This whole narrative you folks put out there about just walking into a gun show and buying whatever you want from anyone with no background check is nothing short of pure bullsnip. same as these internet sales. Sure, you can go to a website and purchase a gun, but guess what, it is illegal to ship it to you directly. It has to be shipped to a local FFL where you do the background check and paperwork for the transfer. Which is usually $25 on top of the shipping and cost of the gun.

So, who about you folks that know precisely D&^k about a subject, go learn about it before you begin to spout out crap that you know is not true.




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