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Society is forced to be accepting of gays & transgenders.

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posted on Jun, 21 2016 @ 05:02 PM
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originally posted by: peppycat
a reply to: Butterfinger Seaworthy was suggesting to me in his post that he only put up the light stuff and more intense sexuality was going on also... so all you need is a permit to go around acting out seedy porno mag scenes...not where I live thank God!
I don't mind a gay pride parade, but gay or straight... I don't need to feel like I stepped into a twilight zone red light district... in the middle of a town where it is not a red light district in some foreign country... and you just need to get from point a to b...maybe seaworthy is leaving something out but I gather his photo's were in a regular shopping and restaurant area.



I want to live where you live. The whole USA used to have values we expressed those through laws.




posted on Jun, 21 2016 @ 05:05 PM
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originally posted by: dogstar23
I find it strange that anyone would be "hounded" about this.


No one has been hounding me either.



posted on Jun, 21 2016 @ 05:08 PM
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a reply to: celinem

This is the MO of the left. If you do not agree, they will FORCE you to agree. It's the same thing that the Christian right used to do, but I think it is much much worse coming from the left.

It isn't just with the LGBT stuff, it is with everything. Anti-gun control? They will come for you. Anti-feminism? They will come for you. Anti-abortion? They will come for you.

They use any and all tactics in order to push this agenda, and it is much larger than just the LGBT stuff. The left is violent, and they play DIRTY in everything they do. You already know this, but this thread is going to get much worse.



posted on Jun, 21 2016 @ 05:12 PM
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a reply to: SeaWorthy There are places in foreign countries with districts for displaying sexuality... maybe America is just getting on board with that reality.
You might consider moving out of that particular area I'm on the west coast. Northern California is pretty wholesome from what I have seen.



posted on Jun, 21 2016 @ 05:33 PM
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originally posted by: Winstonian
a reply to: celinem

This is the MO of the left. If you do not agree, they will FORCE you to agree. It's the same thing that the Christian right used to do, but I think it is much much worse coming from the left.

Why? Because it goes more thoroughly against your particular views? What specifically makes one persons propagandist nonsense any worse than another persons? I am a Christian myself, and nothing makes me sicker than someone preaching judgement and damnation, who should be reading the actual word of Christ, which specifically advises against judging people.


It isn't just with the LGBT stuff, it is with everything. Anti-gun control? They will come for you. Anti-feminism? They will come for you. Anti-abortion? They will come for you.

Now wait a minute... Do you mean feminism which fights for women's rights where those rights are infringed, or are you talking about feminism which demonises all men, hates all things man centric, and demands a tithe of disarticulated testes every week to stop a hate wave from breaking all across the globe?

And are we really talking gun control here, or are we talking about methods of stopping people with serious mental health problems and terroristic tendencies getting a hold of weapons and shooting up a gay bar, or a theatre, or a shopping centre, because these are totally different things.

And as for anti-abortion... Wow. You realise the only argument I have ever heard against abortion that made the slightest sense, was against ILLEGAL late term abortions, of the sort that are illegal in sensible nations, like Britain for example? You know, really late ones? Any argument against a woman choosing to have or not have a baby which factors in, or originates from indoctrination (false faith) is intrinsically flawed, and given that most arguments made against it are made by the acolytes of one or another fundamentalist nutcase, and have no bearing in science, I would say some home truths need explaining. One of those is that one person holding a faith does not mean that another person has to behave in accordance with the first persons wishes.


They use any and all tactics in order to push this agenda, and it is much larger than just the LGBT stuff. The left is violent, and they play DIRTY in everything they do. You already know this, but this thread is going to get much worse.


And the right are much better? I give you the arch propagandist, Trump, and his entire campaign. Love the balanced, nuanced understanding you have of the ways you are being played like a fiddle.
edit on 21-6-2016 by TrueBrit because: Grammatical error



posted on Jun, 21 2016 @ 05:37 PM
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a reply to: TrueBrit

You know exactly what I am talking about, don't try to pick apart my post. Not even sure what your point is to be honest with you.

Yes, currently the left is worse with this type of behavior. They have the power right now, and the use it "liberally." Pun intended.



posted on Jun, 21 2016 @ 05:40 PM
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a reply to: Winstonian

No... No I do not understand what makes one set of bad data any worse than another.

Please explain.



posted on Jun, 21 2016 @ 05:53 PM
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a reply to: Winstonian

I'd like to know what you mean by "force you to agree".



posted on Jun, 21 2016 @ 06:25 PM
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They are no different than any other demographic with one exception. They demand we embrace them with a religious fervor as they embrace themselves. There is absolutely nothing special about these people and they sure as heck don't deserve a whole month of recognition.

One of their own members murdered 49 of them but the NRA and Christians get the blame. They can't even own up to who this guy was and what he did because they are stuck in their illusion of perpetual victim-hood..



posted on Jun, 21 2016 @ 06:28 PM
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a reply to: celinem

At the end of the day they are just human beings regardless of whatever and no matter how messed up you think they are, they are still human beings that feel emotions like the rest of us.
I empathise with them as it can't be easy being hated on for something as trivial as sexual orientation or gender identity.

If they are a good person, it doesn't whatever they identify themselves as, they are good people and I may like them as a result.

If they are not a good person, it doesn't whatever they identify themselves as, they are not good people and I may not like them as a result.

We are not here to judge others, so I say live and let live.
edit on 21-6-2016 by mclarenmp4 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 21 2016 @ 06:32 PM
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a reply to: celinem

What it means is that we are edging ever closer to Huxly's Brave New World.

Scant difference between modern American and huxley's Fictional work.

en.wikipedia.org...



posted on Jun, 21 2016 @ 06:43 PM
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a reply to: SaturnFX

Yeah, because a group of college kids represents the entire black community..dot..dot..dot.



posted on Jun, 21 2016 @ 07:26 PM
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originally posted by: sycomix
a reply to: celinem

S&F I feel ya, pandering to a minority at the cost of the majority is BS. If they want fair and equal treatment than they can shut the hell up and live life like the rest of us. I swear I am gona setup a straight pride parade just to aggravate some lefty loon!


Who's pandering? Who cares who has parades? Like Bluesma said, I guess it's probably different parts of the country experience things differently. I haven't once been pressured to "accept" anything "gay", or even been aware of having been in the presence of an activist attempting to force others to change their opinions. I feel like aside from a few truly bizarre situations, this doesn't happen - either that, or these opinion-forcing gays just don't get near large cities.



posted on Jun, 21 2016 @ 07:33 PM
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originally posted by: Winstonian
a reply to: celinem

This is the MO of the left. If you do not agree, they will FORCE you to agree. It's the same thing that the Christian right used to do, but I think it is much much worse coming from the left.

It isn't just with the LGBT stuff, it is with everything. Anti-gun control? They will come for you. Anti-feminism? They will come for you. Anti-abortion? They will come for you.

They use any and all tactics in order to push this agenda, and it is much larger than just the LGBT stuff. The left is violent, and they play DIRTY in everything they do. You already know this, but this thread is going to get much worse.


This is what has me baffled!! ATS is riddled with people who have this false notion of Chicago being terribly dangerous and violent, yet here, if you have an opinion which isn't supportive of anything LGBT, we don't have roving bands of rabid gays chopping people up. If you're anti-feminist, the feminists don't curb stomp you.

Where do some of you live and why don't the police do something about all these big bad gays forcing people to kneel before their almighty power?

Or... Could it be its all just imagined boogeymen and nobody is really forcing anyone into any particular opinion?



posted on Jun, 21 2016 @ 09:35 PM
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a reply to: celinem

You do not have to like what they do.

You do have to accept that there is nothing you can do about it.

Here in America, it's freedom for all, not just those you agree with.



posted on Jun, 21 2016 @ 09:46 PM
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a reply to: celinem

I think it's no so much that we're forced to be ok with and accept them and their actions but that we're basically forced to praise them and pat them on the back.



posted on Jun, 21 2016 @ 10:03 PM
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a reply to: celinem

This is what the sane world is up against.



posted on Jun, 21 2016 @ 10:05 PM
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The premise of the OP is quite valid. It all began when keywords were created to begin the "hounding" like "homophobic" . This word is a derogatory description meant for anyone who isn't getting on board.

The word homophobic attempts to reverse the negative connotation of being gay, and flip it around to apply to straight people who are against the gay thing in whatever way, rather than admit the original idea that gay is a perversion. So now it isn't, and the bad ones are homophobes that a seemingly majority now look down upon. .

The example above is really minute in comparison to what is now being employed to further the agenda. It will lead, and has already lead this country and the world into a new era of slow destruction.



posted on Jun, 21 2016 @ 10:32 PM
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originally posted by: celinem
So I'm aware that I am going to receive A LOT of hate for this thread but i feel that there are others that will agree with me on this subject.

We are basically forced to be 'ok' with the idea of gay marriage, transgender people and anyone who we don't consider 'normal'.

Let me say straight up - I DON'T GIVE A # WHAT YOUR SEXUAL ORIENTATION OR 'GENDER' IS!!!! I don't care if you're heterosexual, homosexual, bisexual, asexual or whatever..

What really grinds my gears is that we are hounded if we do not support them..

Does anyone else agree that its complete and utter bull# that we are put down if we don't support all of the above? Am i the only one that feels pressured into supporting these people?

Opinions?


Why would you feel one way or the other about who marries each outside of pure ignorant and prejudice reasons? That's all I am curious about. I dont think anyone is pressuring you to do anything, they are just not giving a Flick what you think and feel, the same I and am sure they would suggest is attitude that would appeal and benefit you.



posted on Jun, 21 2016 @ 10:38 PM
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a reply to: celinem

Forced to be okay with gay marriage? Really? No one is forcing anyone to be okay with gay marriage, except the wild internet mobs -- who can be easily ignored. Gay marriage wasn't "forced" on this country. It was made legal, as it should have been long ago. A government so pervasive, that it can oversee the activities in your bedroom, is dangerous. Not to mention, no one is making you get gay married, so it doesn't affect you. Mind your own business.

To paraphrase Patton Oswalt: If a couple of f**s or d***s wanna get married, who cares? If a dude wants to cut off his junk and turn into a woman, then he's a she now. Whether you like it or not, you gotta share that planet with him or her or whatever they want to be called today.



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