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originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: celinem
I think you have rather missed the point.
The point is, that a human, any human, has a right to go about their business as they see fit, without being chastised or treated differently from anyone else, unless the behaviour they indulge in is criminal under current law, thereby causing them to abandon their liberty, and be incarcerated. As long as you have the right to walk down the street unmolested and without attracting prejudice (a right you most certainly have), then so must a gay or transgendered person.
It is also worth noting that it is not your place to decide whether behaviour not prohibited by law, is acceptable in general terms. The only choice you have any right to make in the matter, is whether or not you engage in that behaviour yourself. If you treat someone differently because of the colour of their skin, or the faith they hold, or their sexuality, or their gender, or identity thereof, then you are, whether you would mean to or not, dehumanising that individual, and no one living on the face of this earth has the right to decide another individuals personhood.
No matter what choices we make in life, we are all human beings, under one sun, one moon, living on the same earth, having more similarity than we do difference, even those of us who are at most variance with one another. I believe in Jesus Christ. Others believe in Allah, some believe that there is no God, others still are undecided. Some believe that the best economic model is capitalism, some believe the same of socialism, others still believe that organisation and structure of any kind is anathema to human existence, that by our nature we are too chaotic to safely and uniformly exist within social constructs.
However, the system in the developed world, requires that all persons be considered equal before the law, and that insists that they be treated as equal by all persons living under that system. If you would support the basic human rights afforded to a heterosexual person, then you cannot discriminate against homosexual people unless you find yourself at odds with the idea that human beings are equal before the law, before man, and if that is the case, then you have a very big problem.
You see, over the many, many millennia of mankinds existence, there have been times where human beings were turned against their fellows. By usurpation of faith by propagandists, by deceit and skullduggery ending in a frame up, by royal decree and by the hands of underground groups, the methodology is irrelevant. Each time this has happened, it has lead to massacre, chaos, bloodshed and mayhem. Each time, innocent persons were caught up and slain or maimed in the carnage. And each time this has occurred on any significant scale, it has been because one group of people saw fit to dehumanise and depersonalise another, for their own gain, for greed, or out of spite and fear of the Unknown.
This is our past, as the human race, boiled down to the highlights. Every one of the darkest chapters in human history, comes back to a group or individual claiming that their way, their people, or their faith was supreme amongst all others, that their dogma was more valuable than the lives and freedoms of people who failed to subscribe. Now, there are many in this world who still believe such things openly, make no effort to hide their supremacist tendencies behind veils of propriety and reason. They are terrorists, murderers, marauders, and these are the least of them, for there are others still who run countries from a position of actual governmental legitimacy, and yet allow intolerance to guide their way through the world, both as individuals and as nations.
Suffice to say, that there are countless methods of governance and philosophy which dictate from a position of overt, unhidden oppression. But fortunately for us, we do not live under such a system as exists in North Korea, or under the arch bastards of ISIS. We live in places where freedoms and rights, and particularly the right to be recognised as human beings, are guaranteed by the founding documents of our respective nations, safeguarded by further freedoms recognised over time by those whose task it has been to oversee the clean up after atrocity after atrocity, caused by intolerance and power coming into confluence.
The more there is resistance to freedom, the further back the shadow of intolerance must be beaten. That is the legacy that we inherited from our ancestors, the lesson we must learn from their example, their victories, and their failures.
So my question to you is this. Do you value your freedoms enough, that you would insist on those same freedoms being afforded to others, whether you agree with their lifestyle or not? Put another way, have you learned something from those who came before you, or have you failed to learn the lessons that history teaches us?
originally posted by: kaylaluv
There are a few options:
1. The trans male has completed the physical transition and now has an appendage that works at a urinal.
2. This person could use one of the stalls instead of a urinal.
3. There are devices that women can use to pee standing up (I used one when I went wilderness camping and had to pee outside, and didn't want to get it all over myself). Unlikely to be used in a public bathroom, but possible.
Does that at least stop you from scratching?
originally posted by: blueman12
a reply to: JackofBlades
The bible would be great if that is all it was about. Unfortunately, we have a book that has helped to control and supress the masses. Just stamp the "holy" word on it every century and it's the official truth.
Help to include religion in everyday words and sights. Dumb down education and the influence religions played. Then maybe the masses will forget how religion condemned and supressed science. How religion has diveded the masses and inspired wars.How we will sacrafice everything for religion, even our lives. Islamic terrorism, war against islam terrorism headed by a christian country. The list goes on and on.
Religion is deep rooted in society and thats why its barbaric absurd existance hasnt been thrown out from modern society. Humanity will never take the next step towards evolution with religion.
Religion is junk-food truth and it's disappointing to see so many conspiracy theorists blindly believe every word of it.
originally posted by: IlluminatiTechnician
a reply to: celinem
You know it's Government agenda, because we are forced to accept them...while they wouldn't accept a Christian in a minute.