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Sam Harris adds moral clarity to the attack in Orlando and Islam

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posted on Jun, 21 2016 @ 02:56 AM
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a reply to: TechniXcality

I hear that the sun coming 'up' daily is not really a conspiracy.

Now the moon . . . there's some argument about that.

LOLOL.




posted on Jun, 21 2016 @ 03:22 AM
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a reply to: TechniXcality

Obama will never use a word that is derogatory to islam, it's not politically correct, is it? ha! ha! When a terrorist act is committed in the name of islam, obama will directly on purpose never mention "muslim terrorist or islamic terrorist". People should never forget that the reason he will never offend muslims or islam is that his roots are deep in islam. His father was a muslim, his step-father is a muslim and OBAMA was taught in a muslim madrasa in indonesia. You decide for yourself....



posted on Jun, 21 2016 @ 03:41 AM
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a reply to: tommo39

And videos are available where the Imposter-in-Chief/Traitor-in-Chief is proudly affirming that

HE IS MUSLIM.

Though how he jives that with his Marxism is another interesting issue.



posted on Jun, 21 2016 @ 03:43 AM
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a reply to: Willtell

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Black Pot meet Black Kettle.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Sigh.



posted on Jun, 21 2016 @ 03:45 AM
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a reply to: dragonridr

ABSOLUTELY INDEED.

What is so difficult to see about such brazen facts?

Are folks that individually and culturally suicidal?????????

Sheesh.



posted on Jun, 21 2016 @ 03:50 AM
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More proof ats will embrace anyone who speaks up against Islam. Whether it be Milo or Sam Harris. Good to see people not hung up on gay agendas and Christian bashing anymore. Ats is going progressive. About bloody time



posted on Jun, 21 2016 @ 04:04 AM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: TechniXcality

I think most people think are afraid of Islamism.

They are afraid of an actual war, they are afraid of fighting.

The appeasement and apologists are simply surrendering. They see safety in surrendering.





Really ?.... so the other side to the coin is you like war, you like fighting and see safety in war by attacking what you perceive to be an enemy ....



posted on Jun, 21 2016 @ 05:08 AM
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originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: TechniXcality

I just posted an article from a few days ago talking about a cartel torturing and killing 150 people.

ISIS has killed an estimated 19,000 people in the past 2 or so years.

An estimated 164,000 killed in Mexican drug wars, as much as 55% the result of cartels

You say that these cartels are no threat yet they have killed just as many if not more people than ISIS in a certain time span.

Why are we ignoring something happening right across our border?


I see your drug cartels and raise you... Mohamad and his followers and by his teachings in the Quran which is Islam- have massacred 590 million non-Muslims since 622AD and counting, that's not including Muslim vs Muslim.

Thread-History-Islam: The Religion of Genocide

Good thread TechniXcality S+f



posted on Jun, 21 2016 @ 05:17 AM
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a reply to: Willtell



The guy hates religion thoroughly and has written that he does


It seems Sam Harris loves Taoism.

Thinking Abrahamic religions are dualistic hate propaganda is from my point of view wise since it seem to be a logical objective measurement of "what is".

All movements (including religion) who include dualistic hate propaganda (us vs them) are dangerous since it warps and brainwashes the masses to do genocide of others. There is a reason people keep using Nazism as a parable for Islam. Same root ideas corrupting the tree. At least the majority of Jews and the Christian have chosen to reject their scripture that is tainted. When will that happen to the Muslim? When will the reformation come?

When I have 99% Muslim standing up for equality between sexes, freedom to leave Islam (no compulsion), no killing homosexuals then I will say muslim have evolved enough to coexist with the rest of the world. The day Islam becomes peaceful and not imperialistic.
edit on 21-6-2016 by LittleByLittle because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 21 2016 @ 06:27 AM
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A bit of education of the Quran and Islam

Obama's Escape from Planet Reality, a children's story by David Wood


Top Ten Quran Verses for Understanding ISIS (the Islamic State)

edit on 21-6-2016 by gps777 because: another vid



posted on Jun, 21 2016 @ 08:03 AM
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a reply to: woodwardjnr


Good to see people not hung up on gay agendas and Christian bashing anymore.

Give us a chance. We'll get back to those.



posted on Jun, 21 2016 @ 08:07 AM
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originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: TechniXcality

I think most people think are afraid of Islamism.

They are afraid of an actual war, they are afraid of fighting.

The appeasement and apologists are simply surrendering. They see safety in surrendering.





Really ?.... so the other side to the coin is you like war, you like fighting and see safety in war by attacking what you perceive to be an enemy ....


No. I don't like war. But when an opposing force wants war, you either meet it with war, or you capitulate.



posted on Jun, 21 2016 @ 09:26 AM
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a reply to: TechniXcality

You made me hit you?

Same logic.



posted on Jun, 21 2016 @ 09:51 AM
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There's only one Islam.

There's no "radical Islam" and "normal Islam."

But, there are two types of Muslim believers.

1) Those that believe that Allah is the judge, and He will carry out all judgments and punishments.

2) Those that believe that Muslims must judge on behalf of Allah, and Man must carry out the judgments and punishments.

They all believe the same things otherwise. It's just about who "acts" to enforce the rules of the religion.

That's why the Muslims shout out "God is Great".

When a Muslim "hears" something happen in the world, that he thinks is proof that Allah has judged, he shouts "God is Great."

When a Muslim "does" something which he believes he is acting on behalf of Allah, he again shouts "God is Great".

The Muslim doesn't believe that he is doing these things, he thinks of himself as the hands of Allah, and Allah is doing these things using his body. That's why he doesn't shout "I am Great", but says "God is Great".

So, to solve the problems in the world, we only need to prove to the Muslim that Allah isn't controlling his arms and legs, but that he has his own will, and is deceived into thinking some spirit is controlling him. We need to get a team of psychologists together, and send them into the Mosques to educate the Muslims that man is in charge of his own mind and his own body. Show them scientific proof, that it is only man doing all these things, not Allah.



posted on Jun, 21 2016 @ 11:14 AM
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originally posted by: Willtell

originally posted by: TechniXcality
a reply to: tikbalang

A man who is actually fighting against the racists and bigots, is called the racist and bigot, this is a very strange clown world we have evolved into, quite strange.


He becomes a racist and a bigot when he marginalizes ALL Muslims. Proving he's a religion hater

The Kurds, who are moderate Muslims, for example are fighting and dying against the radicals.

The Syrians, moderate Muslims, are fighting and dying as he only runs his big mouth


that’s what we mean



Islam is an ideology, Muslims are people. That's why you used the Kurds as an example without realizing you just supported the confusion. That being, people fighting their own ideology. Another point I would like to make is you just said "religion" haters are bigots. I think you mean Atheists. So in conclusion, you are saying Atheists are bigots. How many logical fallacies did you commit in your comments?



posted on Jun, 21 2016 @ 12:24 PM
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a reply to: AMPTAH


So, to solve the problems in the world, we only need to prove to the Muslim that Allah isn't controlling his arms and legs, but that he has his own will, and is deceived into thinking some spirit is controlling him. We need to get a team of psychologists together, and send them into the Mosques to educate the Muslims that man is in charge of his own mind and his own body. Show them scientific proof, that it is only man doing all these things, not Allah.

That's a suicide mission. Reasoning with that kind of religious delusion seldom works.
edit on 6/21/2016 by Klassified because: redaction



posted on Jun, 21 2016 @ 11:18 PM
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originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
Where is the outrage over Mexican cartels beheading and slaughtering people right across our border? They do things just as bad as ISIS yet it doesn't get nearly as much coverage. Why is that? Probably because they want us to focus on a certain religion and be afraid of them.

There's an agenda against Islam and the two political parties are milking it for all it's worth. Why doesn't Obama call it Islamic terrorism? Because it gets Republicans all riled up and divides both parties more and more. That's the ONLY reason Obama refuses to call it Islamic terrorism and the right is falling for it hook line and sinker in my opinion. It is a concerted effort on the part of TPTB to keep people fighting and divided, though it is not the only trick they are using.

Let's ignore the terrorism happening in Mexico, those terrorists are predominately Christians and we are focusing on Islam not Christianity.



You are really grasping at straws here bud. Several times. So many times, in fact that I felt the need to actually log-in instead of lurking.

Have you considered that the reason people aren't 'acceptably outraged' over the cartel, is they generally keep their terrible acts IN MEXICO. The "Islamic Terrorists" have no problem making it personal by bringing it right here on American soil. Also, while certainly rough folks, the Cartel has a business to run and are smart enough not to piss off America too much, as their business is here. The extremist/radical/rebel/terrorists/idiots only MO is to simply destroy anything and everything that we in the western world hold 'sacred', anything they don't agree with or approve of, including history; which is just as bad as all the other stupid # they do.

My question is, did you even consider that, or were you so caught up in making a point you had blinders on?



posted on Jun, 21 2016 @ 11:22 PM
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a reply to: woodwardjnr

Don't be jelly.



posted on Jun, 21 2016 @ 11:52 PM
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originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: odzeandennz

Why should I have to do your homework for you? The terrorism by drug cartels is very real, if you choose to ignore it then I'd say you're being willfully ignorant. There are stories everyday of Mexican cartels killing families and chopping people up over drugs. And yes, many of those Mexican terrorists wear crosses around their necks and have tattoos of Jesus all over their bodies

Just to give you a sample, here's a STORY from just a few days ago. But you're right, it's not happening, they didn't really torture and kill 150 people.


If you can't see the difference here you have some serious bias. They aren't fighting infidels in the name of Christ, they are just drug dealing gangs. Totally different problem and issue. Trump is fighting this fight equally as hard, btw, so not sure what your point is.



posted on Jun, 22 2016 @ 12:00 AM
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originally posted by: Klassified
a reply to: woodwardjnr


Good to see people not hung up on gay agendas and Christian bashing anymore.

Give us a chance. We'll get back to those.


Hehe

Klassified I`m assuming your an Atheist, do you really believe that a small band of Atheists can defeat Islam?

It may surprise you to know that within the Bible it describes this beast Islam and it is Christ himself who swats it like the bug that it is, so after Islam is destroyed, maybe I could suggest not taking on Christ as He is the Commander and Chief of all.
People I`ve listened to in the know, have said that Muslims are mostly targeting the Bible belt, Texas mainly because once they dominate those states and Christianity the US will fall to Islam, so even Muslims know the back bone of the US is Christianity.

Even though Christianity will never be destroyed. Muslims need a massive rethink.

Oh and while I`m here I`d like to put up another vid of a Muslim terrorist who was and is in America from Lebanon who was planning and recruiting for Islam. If not for the generosity help and love shown to him by Christians and Jews he could have amounted more untold atrocities done by Islam. (and there are more like it).
So much of Christianity goes blindly unnoticed, except for anything the media finds a tiny percentage to demonize all, while promoting Islam.



Christian- believes in God/Christ as He was foretold to come throughout the Old Testament who would be rejected by the Jewish people as the Messiah because they were expecting a worldly King, the Kingdom of God is not of this world but taking Christ within we become a temple of God. Belief in Christs death and His pure innocence and his taking on the sins of the world for us all because we have all fallen short of the glory of God, i.e. saved by grace so that no man may boast.

Muslim- two things that their god Allah ( Satan ) guarantees one to enter their said paradise.

1. Slaying and being slayed in the name of their Allah, suicide bombers etc,72 virgins blah blah, and that at the first drop of the martyrs blood he/she makes intersection to 70 of the martyrs family, which is celebrated.

Now this is the important one.
2. By Immigration, to spread Islam, this is why we see and hear "oh the Muslim next door would never be an extremist etc".Not that their isn`t Muslims who don`t follow their books to the letter, its those in power that force these types to get inline when the time comes.

Mohamad by example was dependant upon the hospitality of three tribes of Jews and at the end he had slaughtered the lot of them.
read about this Islamic massacre backed by their own books.

Lebanon in our life time where the same happened to the Christians, who were slaughtered by the so called moderates that they thought were their friends and neighbours, turned against them when their numbers grew and they could dominate them, the only country in the world that helped them were the Jews in Israel. Watch some video`s on Brigitte Gabriel life story who lived to survive through it.

This is the same way Mohamad fought and taught, kill the men and pubescent boys, capture the woman and rape, keep as a sex slave or force to marry.

One other point Brigitte Gabriel brings up is that in Nazi Germany we all know that the Jews had to wear the yellow star, this was taken from Islam, where Jews and Christians are to be either killed or be made Dhimmis' and pay a special tax to stay alive. It shouldn`t come as a surprise there were close ties between Hitler and Islamic countries.

All in all Islam is a death cult, where one is to become a dead sacrifice to Satan. Who are deceived into thinking they are doing Gods will through Mohamad`s example and teachings. But goes back much further to Ishmael the wild "Donkey" son banished by Abraham for following false gods etc who became the desert people then the Arabs and their Hatred toward Gods people and Land Israel that is wanted for their own. Satan always has a counterfeit.

Christianity where Christ/God already sacrificed Himself for us all so anyone that believes can be a living sacrifice for Him.

Its easy to see when someone isn`t being Christ like, though perfection is impossible.

We are not your enemy Klassified and it would surprise you what we fight for, not that anything in this world could stop anyway, but go ahead if that's your mission to try.

The world is heating up all our countries and governments are either clueless or complicit to allow such a diabolical ideology to have a free pass and be allowed to flourish in the free world.



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