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Sam Harris adds moral clarity to the attack in Orlando and Islam

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posted on Jun, 20 2016 @ 07:08 PM
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originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: odzeandennz

You should really research before you post nonsense:

Mexican drug war's innocent victims: 'They tried to kill me with my kids'


Cartels kill innocent people all the time.


yea you too.

being at the wrong place at the wrong time...
same article

Mexican president Felipe Calderon often claims that 90% of the drug war victims are criminals. That vague sentencing of 60,000 people naturally enrages victims' families.


statistically, mexican drug cartels killed less innocent people in the United states or across the world. it doesnt matter what technicality you try to use to defend muslim terrorists

i would live next to a drug cartel any day over a muslim terrorist. given the fact that i live in OC california, theres a 75% chance i already have been living not too far from mexican drug cartels.
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posted on Jun, 20 2016 @ 07:12 PM
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a reply to: tikbalang

A man who is actually fighting against the racists and bigots, is called the racist and bigot, this is a very strange clown world we have evolved into, quite strange.



posted on Jun, 20 2016 @ 07:12 PM
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a reply to: odzeandennz

Wow, did you really just say I defend terrorists? What the # is wrong with you? I'm not defending any terrorists, I'm just putting things into perspective.

Oh wait, nevermind. Since I'm defending Muslim terrorists I guess that means you're defending Mexican terrorists.



i would live next to a drug cartel any day over a muslim terrorist.


That's easy to say behind a keyboard. I wouldn't want to live by either one equally.
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posted on Jun, 20 2016 @ 07:15 PM
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a reply to: TechniXcality


Oh I am seeing right through this drip. "Far Right" nationalism......and just think the left could save the day!



posted on Jun, 20 2016 @ 07:16 PM
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a reply to: TechniXcality


Trigger warning;




edit on 20-6-2016 by Lysergic because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 20 2016 @ 07:17 PM
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originally posted by: TechniXcality
a reply to: tikbalang

A man who is actually fighting against the racists and bigots, is called the racist and bigot, this is a very strange clown world we have evolved into, quite strange.

Forget A man (actually fighting against the racists and bigots). That idea evolved from a would be wannabe "GOD" creator clown allowing the 3 Ring Circus to develop between specie types.
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posted on Jun, 20 2016 @ 07:19 PM
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a reply to: TechniXcality
www.jihadwatch.org...

I am always amused at the apologist who swear Islam is just like any other religion especially since those making the claims either know nothing about the religion or have an agenda which hides the majority thought process shared by the devoted.
We post what some Iman says that would have us locked up at gitmo or worse yet the response from authorities both here and across the pond is like it was never said or did not happen; "He didn't mean it the way it came out" etc etc... I do not know what the agenda truly is unless it is to transform and destroy western civilization by turning it into another mid-east cesspool of religious police and unscientific thought. Those who have seen this crap in other countries realize it is almost to late to stop this tide of change.

I really am glad I am old and will be dead before much of this comes to a true head butting contest.


• Omar Ahmad, co-founder of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, the top Muslim lobby group in Washington: “Islam isn’t in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Quran should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth.”




• Imam Siraj Wahhaj, director of the Muslim Alliance in North America: “In time, this so-called democracy will crumble, and there will be nothing. And the only thing that will remain will be Islam.”

• Imam Zaid Shakir, co-founder of Zaytuna College in Berkeley, Calif.: “If we put a nationwide infrastructure in place and marshaled our resources, we’d take over this country in a very short time. . . . What a great victory it will be for Islam to have this country in the fold and ranks of the Muslims.”…


There are other quotes at the link but hey, they really don't mean what they say !




posted on Jun, 20 2016 @ 07:22 PM
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a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1



Why are we ignoring something happening right across our border?


Mexico needs to clean up it's criminal element.

Do you want us to do it? We can't even clean up the gangs of Chicago.



posted on Jun, 20 2016 @ 07:23 PM
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a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

How many deaths due to Muslim vs Muslim fighting have there been in the Middle East in 10 years?




posted on Jun, 20 2016 @ 07:24 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

How many deaths due to Muslim vs Muslim fighting have there been in the Middle East in 10 years?

Trick question?



posted on Jun, 20 2016 @ 07:25 PM
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a reply to: Logarock

I am a supporter of classic liberalism in almost every way that includes, equal rights for women, and LGBT, and minorities, that includes taking care of our veterans, and doing our best to ensure no man is starving and dying in our streets as you cannot have a moral and civil society with that taking place, there's other things but ill stop there.

I am not a supporter of the SJW movement, or BLM, or new age liberalism, or 3rd wave feminism, or Islamic apology, I am in no way a supporter of those ideas on the left that wish to use authoritarianism to meet their Utopian idea's, or who sacrifice practicality for the notion of rainbows and butterfly's, it is a thinly veiled fascism nothing more.

Nor do i support, the extreme and bellicose response to the lefts new age insanity, which is the rise of nationalists like trump, who say things like, " let the market fail, i made big money when the market failed in 2008" - a self serving and extreme person. Though I will say he does appear to be the best of any of the choices available, so say what you will, but my views are honest and i'm willing to discuss any of them with you.



posted on Jun, 20 2016 @ 07:26 PM
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originally posted by: angeldoll
a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1



Why are we ignoring something happening right across our border?


Mexico needs to clean up it's criminal element.

Do you want us to do it? We can't even clean up the gangs of Chicago.

They are more powerful/influential/payoffs and is why no clean up will occur anytime soon. Chicago samo samo.
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posted on Jun, 20 2016 @ 07:26 PM
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originally posted by: TechniXcality
a reply to: tikbalang

A man who is actually fighting against the racists and bigots, is called the racist and bigot, this is a very strange clown world we have evolved into, quite strange.


Sam Harris, the Islamophobic bigot and racist

I dunno, perhaps because he is?

Loonwatch

Islamophobia is big business



posted on Jun, 20 2016 @ 07:29 PM
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originally posted by: vethumanbeing

originally posted by: angeldoll
a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1



Why are we ignoring something happening right across our border?


Mexico needs to clean up it's criminal element.

Do you want us to do it? We can't even clean up the gangs of Chicago.

They are more powerful/influential/payoffs and is why no clean up will occur anytime soon. Chicago samo samo.


It's sickening to think about, but you are probably right.



posted on Jun, 20 2016 @ 07:33 PM
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a reply to: TechniXcality

Sam Harris could have become so much more, instead he became a simple knight full of fantasies, Don Quijote. He fights his own war, don't make the mistake thinking he fights for anyone than himself



posted on Jun, 20 2016 @ 07:36 PM
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a reply to: angeldoll

The Middle East needs to do the same but people have no issue with America putting its nose in their business.



posted on Jun, 20 2016 @ 07:41 PM
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a reply to: TechniXcality

I think most people think are afraid of Islamism.

They are afraid of an actual war, they are afraid of fighting.

The appeasement and apologists are simply surrendering. They see safety in surrendering.



posted on Jun, 20 2016 @ 07:42 PM
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originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: angeldoll

The Middle East needs to do the same but people have no issue with America putting its nose in their business.


I agree to an extent, but should we have put our noses in the business of the Nazi's? Should we have stayed out of that?
The U.S. is still sometimes criticized to this day, for not going in sooner.



posted on Jun, 20 2016 @ 07:51 PM
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a reply to: angeldoll

Stories, try learning actual facts why they joined and not before



posted on Jun, 20 2016 @ 07:52 PM
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originally posted by: odzeandennz
a reply to: ReprobateRaccoon

whats more of a threat, mexican drug lords, or Islam terrorist?


EXACTLY. So why are so many people still obsessed with the "muslim terrorists?"




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