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I Was A "Professional" 9/11 "Truther" (And I Still Am!)

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posted on Jul, 2 2016 @ 10:29 AM
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a reply to: Doctor Smith

You said paint was inert? You didn't specify red chips. Do you mean compounds in paint. Big difference. And skepticism proved there are other ways to create iron spheres than thermite. So much disinformation from conspiracists, they cannot be trusted. Oh, the irony. Like I said, even Dr Wood debunked thermite. Your own narratives don't hold up with other conspiracists.

Like how the narrative always changes, or you always drop back to they are lying to create your fictional world. And there was no cut beams at the WTC due to pyrotechnics. What does that say about jones research. It's a crock
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posted on Jul, 2 2016 @ 10:36 AM
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a reply to: Doctor Smith

And if you were educated in scientific method, you would know jones paper is a crock from the way the samples were obtained on down. And not miss inform his work has been debunked.



posted on Jul, 2 2016 @ 01:47 PM
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a reply to: Doctor Smith

And you don't think the steel from the WTC didn't have spheres from its forging and welding? Again, conspiracists stated only thermite could create spheres. And the spheres from the skeptic experiment were even richer in iron and had a higher iron to oxygen ration. Wasn't conspiracists conception not only thermite was the only cause of spheres, and iron rich spheres. But now spheres are created at the forging process. Why didn't jones test fresh structural steel for spheres as a control? Another fudging of facts to stay relevant.
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posted on Jul, 2 2016 @ 04:22 PM
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a reply to: gladtobehere

One of the best 9/11 videos on who was behind the attacks. www.youtube.com...



posted on Jul, 2 2016 @ 04:51 PM
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a reply to: UnderwearBandit

Right.......

Bolleyn is a conspiracy fruitcake and anti jewish who wrote for such rags as the SPOTLIGHT and (later) AMERICAN FREE PRESS

Anyone who uses him as a source is immediately discredited



posted on Jul, 2 2016 @ 06:41 PM
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originally posted by: Doctor Smith
a reply to: Doctor Smith

See how none of the theories hold up when slightly scrutinized by a modestly educated individual like myself. It's no wonder no peer reviewed papers have been submitted to challenge Steven Jone's peer reviewed paper.



What doesn't hold up when evaluated by a scientist is Jones' paper. Jones is a egomaniacal fraudster. His contrived paper is self-inconsistent and the data he includes disproves his hypothesis.
Peer reviewed means little as Jones' paper review was questionable at best. The samples were tainted, the protocols were incorrect, and Jones and his cohorts had little understanding of the chemistry involved.



posted on Jul, 2 2016 @ 07:02 PM
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originally posted by: UnderwearBandit
a reply to: gladtobehere

One of the best 9/11 videos on who was behind the attacks.


Ah yes, blame the Jews for everything! Who else do you expect a Anti-Semite and holocaust denier to blame?

Also a convicted criminal on the run!
www.rense.com...
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posted on Jul, 3 2016 @ 09:39 AM
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a reply to: hellobruce

You must be extremely ignorant to not acknowledge a connection between Israel and 9/11. With out digging deep you will see the only suspected terrorist arrested in New York on 9/11 were the Israeli Mossad agents disguised as moving company. One of their vans had explosive residue in it and the owner of the fake moving company fled the country. Than later on Israeli tv they admit that they had foreknowledge of the event. It can't be a coincidence that Jewish Zionists owned the buildings, ran the security for the buildings, ran the security at the airports the terrorists departed from and ran the official investigation. Way to many coincidences and I have not begun to scratch the surface. I guess the USS Liberty attack and the Lavon Affair are all fake events created by anti-semites.

Why is it when people point out a few corrupt Jews everybody freaks out and thinks your demonizing their whole race?

You would have no need to create the ADL in 1913 unless you knew a few bad apples could spoil the bunch.

Admitting foreknowledge of 9/11: www.youtube.com...
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posted on Jul, 3 2016 @ 12:50 PM
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a reply to: UnderwearBandit

Typical truther Jew hater.......

One the WTC complex (except for WTC 7) was owned by the Port Authority of NY . Silverstein was leasing the buildings
and paying rent . In fact Silverstein was not the winner bidder - only after the initial bidder failed to secure the necessary
financing was Silverstein awarded the lease

2) Only people arrested on 9/11 was the 5 Israeli in NJ who invited suspicion by their behavior while filming the WTC
from NJ - were not in New York. FBI interrogated them for 10 weeks before concluding had nothing to provide to the
investigation. All were expelled from the US as undesirables

3) The "foreknowledge" claim came from a Lebanese TV station owned by Hezbollah - hardly a credible source
If fact numerous Jews died in the disaster - 6 from FDNY , one who refused to leave his paralyzed friend
alone while waiting for rescue NYC coroner estimates about 20% of victims were Jewish

Little wonder truthers are treated with contempt......



posted on Jul, 3 2016 @ 03:12 PM
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a reply to: firerescue

At least at the end of the day we can both agree that 9/11 was a false flag attack.

When asked why there is no mention of 9/11 on Bin Laden’s Most Wanted web page (30), [Rex Tomb, Chief of Investigative Publicity for the FBI] said, “The reason why 9/11 is not mentioned on Usama Bin Laden’s Most Wanted page is because the FBI has no hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11.”



posted on Jul, 3 2016 @ 04:45 PM
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originally posted by: UnderwearBandit
One of their vans had explosive residue in it


Oh dear, why make up a lie like that about Jews? Your hatred of jews is obvious.


Than later on Israeli tv they admit that they had foreknowledge of the event.


No they did not.


It can't be a coincidence that Jewish Zionists owned the buildings,


Another false claim, they did not own the buildings.


ran the security for the buildings,


No they did not....


ran the security at the airports the terrorists departed from and ran the official investigation.


What a load of nonsense, not based on anything factual
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posted on Jul, 3 2016 @ 07:00 PM
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THE SILVERSTEIN LEASE
1) Port Authority who authorized the lease to Larry Silverstein (Zionist) was headed by Lewis Eisenberg (Zionist).
-Lewis Eisenberg: Has been a board member for the United Jewish Appeal/United Jewish Federation pro-Israeli gov

WTC SECURITY
2) The contract to run security at WTC was handed over to Kroll Associates after the 1993 WTC bombing. This contract was awarded to them by Port Authority. The owners of Kroll Associates are Jules and Jeremy Kroll (Zionists). The managing director at the time of 9/11 was Jerome M. Hauer (Zionist).
-Jerome M. Hauer: An expert on Bio-Terrorism had instructed White house staff to take "Cipro"- an anti-biotic effective against Anthrax- one week prior to the Antrhax mailings.

AIRPORT SECURITY
3) Airport Security for all 3 hijackers airports was ran by Huntsleigh USA a susidiary of ICTS International owned by Ezra Harel and Menachem Aztom (Zionists). Many of ICTS employees are former Shin Bet agents.
- Shin Bet: Israels' International Security Service

ISRAELI SPYS
4) Over 100 Israelis had been arrested for suspected espionage prior to 9/11 and 60 more were detained following 9/11. 5 individuals were arrested after being spotted filming/celebrating the attacks. The men were detained due to suspicous highlighted maps and foreign passports. 2 of the 5 were later found to be Mossad Agents. These 5 individuals worked for Urban Moving Systems under the direction of Dominic Suter (Zionist) who immediately fled the country after the attacks. The 5 dancing Israelis failed several polygraphs while in custody for 10 weeks, but were quietly released by Michael Chertoff (Zionist).

9/11 COMMISSION
5) The 9/11 commission was responsible for investigating 9/11 and authored the infamous 9/11 Commission Report. The executive director for the commission was Phillip Zelikow (Zionist). The 9/11 report failed to make any reference to the collapse of building 7 and was full of anomalies, contradictions and falsehoods.
-Phillip Zelikow: A Bush admin insider who worked on the National Security Council for George H. W. Bush admin. After George W. Bush took office Zelikow named a position on the President's Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board.

DESTRUCTION OF EVIDENCE
6) Following the attacks much of the debris was scooped up and shipped to Asian smelters before a proper crime scene investigation could be done. The companies responsible for destroying evidence were Metals Management and SIMS. The owner of Metals Management is Alan D. Ratner (Zionist). Ratner sold over 50,000 tons of crime scene evidence to a Chinese Company to be destroyed.

NOTABLE PEOPLE
-Alvin K. Hellerstien (Zionist) A judge for the Southern District of New York and oversaw several high profile 9/11 related cases
-Michael B. Mukasey (Zionist) Oversaw the litigation between Larry Silverstein and insurance companies after 9/11. He prevented a full inquiry into the 5 dancing Israelis and was later appointed to attorney general by Bush.
-Kenneth Feingerg (Zionist) Set up victim's compensation fund and managed to get 97% of the victims families to take money in exchange for dropping demands of a legal investigation.
-Sheila Birnbaum (Zionist) Was put in charge of handling the 3% of families who wouldn't be bought off. Nothing of significant happened with these claims.
-Benjamin Chertoff (Zionist) a cousin of Michael Chertoff wrote the 9/11 hit piece for Popular Mechanics claiming to debunk 9/11 conspiracies.

STATEMENTS
-Former Italian President Francesco Cossiga who revealed the existence of Operation Gladio has stated that 9/11 was a false flag attack run by by the Mossad and CIA.
-Former head of Pakistani intelligence stated: "The U.S. spends $40 billion a year on its 11 intelligence agencies. That's $400 billion in 10 years. Yet the Bush Administration says it was taken by surprise. I don't believe it. Within 10 minutes of the second twin tower being hit in the World Trade Center CNN said Osama bin Laden had done it. That was a planned piece of disinformation by the real perpetrators. It created an instant mindset and put public opinion into a trance, which prevented even intelligent people from thinking for themselves."

There are way to many Zionist Jews involved for Israel to not have played a role in 9/11. Once again I'm not stating that all Jews are bad, there just happens to be a few bad apples in the bunch.




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posted on Jul, 3 2016 @ 08:03 PM
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1) Port Authority who authorized the lease to Larry Silverstein (Zionist) was headed by Lewis Eisenberg (Zionist).


Silverstein partner in WTC was Westfield Holdings, run by Australian Peter Lowry . I suppose he is an another
Zionist in disguise ......

Like said earlier Silverstein was not the original winning bidder .



In January 2001, Silverstein, via Silverstein Properties and Westfield America, made a $3.2 billion bid for the lease to the World Trade Center. Silverstein was outbid by $30 million by Vornado Realty, with Boston Properties and Brookfield Properties also competing for the lease. However, Vornado withdrew and Silverstein's bid for the lease to the World Trade Center was accepted on July 24, 2001. This was the first time in the building's 31-year history that the complex had changed management.


Steel recycled ?? For one the site was not cleared until May 2002, steel recovered from the site was taken to Fresh Kills
on Staten Island . Pieces of interest (those closest to the impact zones) were saved for study

Afterwards was returned to Port Authority

nist.gov...

Philip Zelikow Zionist agent ?? Chief counsel for the 911 Commission was John Farmer, former attorney general of NJ

Dont think he was a Zionist.. One of the 911 counsel was John Azarello, a former federal prosecutor in NJ,

His 2 brothers-in-law died in the WTC North Tower. I used to live next to his mother-in-law (their mother) Did not
see any Zionist agents at work .....

As for 100 Israeli agents . Yet only caught these 5 clowns.... That because they brought attention to themselves
hardly the activities of professional Mossad types......

You smear anybody with a Jewish sounding name ........ Sick



posted on Jul, 3 2016 @ 08:14 PM
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a reply to: firerescue

Actually I have great admiration for some Jewish people like Max Gerson and David Cole. Also your right about Peter Lowy both him and his father Frank Lowy are well known Zionist Jews. The actually number is over 140 and many of them were arrested and questioned by the FBI.

www.youtube.com...
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posted on Jul, 4 2016 @ 09:34 AM
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Do you even look at the source(s) for your evidence ?
This YT poster is a 20 something ranter.
His latest post is titled 'Burn an Israeli flag the 4th of July'.


Please explain to all of us what qualifies him to speak on 911 ?
Was he even a teenager in 2001 ?

When you start accepting jokster evidence as fact, you start believing in fairy tales.



posted on Jul, 4 2016 @ 09:55 AM
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a reply to: samkent

Ryan Dawson is one of the most knowledgeable people on 9/11 and Iran Contra. Everything in his documentaries are backed by official documents.



posted on Jul, 4 2016 @ 11:05 AM
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originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: Doctor Smith

You said paint was inert? You didn't specify red chips. Do you mean compounds in paint. Big difference. And skepticism proved there are other ways to create iron spheres than thermite. So much disinformation from conspiracists, they cannot be trusted. Oh, the irony. Like I said, even Dr Wood debunked thermite. Your own narratives don't hold up with other conspiracists.

Like how the narrative always changes, or you always drop back to they are lying to create your fictional world. And there was no cut beams at the WTC due to pyrotechnics. What does that say about jones research. It's a crock


I'm obviously talking about the primer paint ( not related to the RED/GREY chips. The primer was tested many times and never explodes. It only cracks when heated. Science has proven the primer paint is unrelated to the RED/GREY nano themate chips.




posted on Jul, 4 2016 @ 11:12 AM
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originally posted by: pteridine

originally posted by: Doctor Smith
a reply to: Doctor Smith

See how none of the theories hold up when slightly scrutinized by a modestly educated individual like myself. It's no wonder no peer reviewed papers have been submitted to challenge Steven Jone's peer reviewed paper.



What doesn't hold up when evaluated by a scientist is Jones' paper. Jones is a egomaniacal fraudster. His contrived paper is self-inconsistent and the data he includes disproves his hypothesis.
Peer reviewed means little as Jones' paper review was questionable at best. The samples were tainted, the protocols were incorrect, and Jones and his cohorts had little understanding of the chemistry involved.



No peer reviewed papers challenging Jone's peer reviewed paper so I call BS. They're afraid to challenge his paper. Just regurgitate lies.

At 38 minutes into this video the facts (with witnesses) of the gathering of a pristine dust sample is shown. Facts. Not regurgitated BS.




posted on Jul, 4 2016 @ 11:47 AM
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No peer reviewed papers challenging Jone's peer reviewed paper so I call BS.


Ok,

so name some of the researchers/scientists that "peer revived" Jones work and said it was valid.

His research wasn't peer reviewed in the sense many like yourself think it has , reviewed by his peers, other nuts that make a living of the conspiracy circle, well then yes it was "peer" reviewed.



posted on Jul, 4 2016 @ 12:52 PM
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originally posted by: UnderwearBandit
a reply to: gladtobehere

One of the best 9/11 videos on who was behind the attacks. www.youtube.com...

He's selling his books !

And the Youtube channel is anonymous.
One video only,



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