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Claim guy charged with weapons in Gay Pride event gave himself up in fear he was a patsy

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posted on Jun, 19 2016 @ 07:37 PM
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Here is a video of a 'friend' he met and testimony of the ex written:

Ex: (Zach Hambrick) friend: (Joseph Greeson)

www.indystar.com...

The whole story doesn't make any sense. He went from straight white male about to attack gays, to gay, with an ex boyfriend and now he 'apparently' had sex with some underaged girl. She also claims it wasn't rape, and she considered him a boyfriend and talked about marriage when she got older.

His arrest was also strange, apparently roaming the streets knocking on doors, which made people call the cops.
edit on 19-6-2016 by RetsuUnohana because: Fixed spelling error




posted on Jun, 19 2016 @ 07:48 PM
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a reply to: thinline

I have read at least 3 conflicting details to date

He was stopped on the way to the gay pride event

Someone called and said there was a prowler

Then the one I posted



posted on Jun, 19 2016 @ 07:56 PM
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originally posted by: RetsuUnohana
Here is a video of a 'friend' he met and testimony of the ex written:

Ex: (Zach Hambrick) friend: (Joseph Greeson)

www.indystar.com...

The whole story doesn't make any sense. He went from straight white male about to attack gays, to, gay, with an ex boyfriend and now he 'apparently' had sex with some underaged girl. She also claims it wasn't rape, and she considered him a boyfriend and talked about marriage when she got older.
His arrest was also strange, apparently roaming the streets knocking on doors, which made people call the cops.


Yes, straight white male to gay....just like orlando.

Thanks, this is the first I heard that it wasn't rape but the fact that he was older makes it so.

Roaming the streets knowing on doors is yet a 4th version of his arrest.



posted on Jun, 19 2016 @ 09:59 PM
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originally posted by: DancedWithWolves
He is a ChoMo.

My post in another thread...

This dude is lower than scum. Glad he's off the streets. He was a child molester on the run, intent on doing more harm to others.

James Howell charged with child molestation in Indiana


It still isn't clear what James Howell was doing en route to an LA Pride event with weapons and explosives in his car—police say he had no connection to the Orlando shooting—but we now know more about him: The 20-year-old Indiana man was charged with child molestation Wednesday after allegedly having sex with a 12-year-old girl on May 31. A Clark County prosecutor—who plans to have Howell extradited back to Indiana—tells the APthat Howell and the girl's brother are members of the same car club and that the girl attended a car event with Howell. Afterward, Howell offered to drive the girl to the home of a family friend but first stopped at a forested area, where Howell molested her, the prosecutor says. The girl's mom went to police two days later and Howell was interviewed on June 7.

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Thought you would want to know.

Peace


How do you get "cho" out of child?



posted on Jun, 20 2016 @ 07:02 AM
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originally posted by: ChesterJohn
a reply to: boncho
Regarding the training camp in Virginia I shared in a post earlier this year about going on a hunting trip on private land in Virginia just south of Appomattox Va, where there is a large Muslim Mosque on a large plot of land.


Would that be the Muslims of America near Red House in Charlotte County? We like to go back roads when we travel and came upon this. It is a very rural area and then all of a sudden there is a large sign saying "Muslims of America". It is very noticeable as it sticks out as not fitting the rest of the area.

www.wnd.com...#!
edit on 6/20/2016 by LuFri because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 20 2016 @ 07:54 AM
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a reply to: LuFri

that could be the place it is in the booneies. That is one reason we were surprised at such an operation being allowed.



posted on Jun, 20 2016 @ 11:16 AM
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originally posted by: ChesterJohn
a reply to: LuFri

that could be the place it is in the booneies. That is one reason we were surprised at such an operation being allowed.


Well there is now evidence they are training people to kill normal americans so now there is a reason to shut them down. That.... or have the ATF go serve a warrant and we have another WACO. That would actually be good this time.



posted on Jun, 20 2016 @ 02:06 PM
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a reply to: liveandlearn

WOW!! In my estimation this story has traction. It's the first I'm seeing of it and I'm glad you decided to post, OP, though I understand the reluctance.

Yesterday or the day before I was thinking I'd bet big time Omar was promised he wouldn't be killed. An intuitive thought.

If true, and it sure looks that way to me, thank you to the anonymous police officers who released the information.

I remember the isolated training camp in VA story. I'll bet there are many across the nation in backwoods, rural areas.

I'm so freaked out by the FBI. The long arm of the government.

Thank you!



posted on Jun, 20 2016 @ 02:52 PM
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originally posted by: ChesterJohn
a reply to: boncho
Regarding the training camp in Virginia I shared in a post earlier this year about going on a hunting trip on private land in Virginia just south of Appomattox Va, where there is a large Muslim Mosque on a large plot of land. We stopped to rest and suddenly heard what sounded like bombs going off and machine gun fire. We made our way through the woods to a fenced off area where men were dressed in military fatigues and some in traditional Muslim garb were firing mortars, machine guns (looked like M16's) and grande launchers at abandoned vehicles and what looked like burnt out structures.

We made our way around to the front and we were about 500 feet from the entrance when armed guards came out and shot over our heads. We high tailed it out of there and later found a Sheriff's deputy. We told him what we saw and he told us to leave the area back to where we came form and noted that they knew what was going on and that there was nothing they could do about it because it was on private property.
And this is why I LOVE ATS!! Thank you for reporting this back to us! They know about it, yet they can't do a thing??? Interesting......



posted on Jun, 20 2016 @ 03:26 PM
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originally posted by: j.r.c.b.
And this is why I LOVE ATS!! Thank you for reporting this back to us! They know about it, yet they can't do a thing??? Interesting......


And what would you like them to do? Unless you make owning and using those weapons as you wish illegal on your own private property what sort of legal action is supposed to be taken? Do you support the 2nd?



posted on Jun, 20 2016 @ 03:32 PM
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originally posted by: Aazadan

originally posted by: j.r.c.b.
And this is why I LOVE ATS!! Thank you for reporting this back to us! They know about it, yet they can't do a thing??? Interesting......


And what would you like them to do? Unless you make owning and using those weapons as you wish illegal on your own private property what sort of legal action is supposed to be taken? Do you support the 2nd?
See what yuppa wrote above?? I'm in agreement with yuppa. I support the 2nd 100%.
edit on 6/20/16 by j.r.c.b. because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 20 2016 @ 04:10 PM
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originally posted by: j.r.c.b.

originally posted by: ChesterJohn
a reply to: boncho
Regarding the training camp in Virginia I shared in a post earlier this year about going on a hunting trip on private land in Virginia just south of Appomattox Va, where there is a large Muslim Mosque on a large plot of land. We stopped to rest and suddenly heard what sounded like bombs going off and machine gun fire. We made our way through the woods to a fenced off area where men were dressed in military fatigues and some in traditional Muslim garb were firing mortars, machine guns (looked like M16's) and grande launchers at abandoned vehicles and what looked like burnt out structures.

We made our way around to the front and we were about 500 feet from the entrance when armed guards came out and shot over our heads. We high tailed it out of there and later found a Sheriff's deputy. We told him what we saw and he told us to leave the area back to where we came form and noted that they knew what was going on and that there was nothing they could do about it because it was on private property.
And this is why I LOVE ATS!! Thank you for reporting this back to us! They know about it, yet they can't do a thing??? Interesting......


I believe if they wanted to do something they would find a way to do it as in the Bundy's and Hammonds. They want it there and they are/were infiltrating to accomplish their own purposes.

And the right to make bombs doesn't seem to be covered in the 2nd.

(I copied the entire post but only the reply showed)
edit on 20-6-2016 by liveandlearn because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 20 2016 @ 04:49 PM
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originally posted by: j.r.c.b.
See what yuppa wrote above?? I'm in agreement with yuppa. I support the 2nd 100%.


What was written is not evidence they're training to kill Americans, they could just like playing soldier like several other militias do.



posted on Jun, 20 2016 @ 05:06 PM
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originally posted by: Aazadan

originally posted by: j.r.c.b.
See what yuppa wrote above?? I'm in agreement with yuppa. I support the 2nd 100%.


What was written is not evidence they're training to kill Americans, they could just like playing soldier like several other militias do.


The patsy stated they were trained there. Along with the shooter in orlando. So....



posted on Jun, 20 2016 @ 05:08 PM
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originally posted by: yuppa
The patsy stated they were trained there. Along with the shooter in orlando. So....


If true, that would be cause for concern, and reason to do something but testimony from someone of dubious credibility isn't enough to go on, maybe an initial investigation at the most but if they've already been investigated in the past even that probably can't happen.
edit on 20-6-2016 by Aazadan because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 20 2016 @ 05:37 PM
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originally posted by: liveandlearn

originally posted by: RetsuUnohana
Here is a video of a 'friend' he met and testimony of the ex written:

Ex: (Zach Hambrick) friend: (Joseph Greeson)

www.indystar.com...

The whole story doesn't make any sense. He went from straight white male about to attack gays, to, gay, with an ex boyfriend and now he 'apparently' had sex with some underaged girl. She also claims it wasn't rape, and she considered him a boyfriend and talked about marriage when she got older.
His arrest was also strange, apparently roaming the streets knocking on doors, which made people call the cops.


Yes, straight white male to gay....just like orlando.

Thanks, this is the first I heard that it wasn't rape but the fact that he was older makes it so.

Roaming the streets knowing on doors is yet a 4th version of his arrest.


Sorry wasn't able to answer back last night the site was lagging and would not refresh. Yeah, rape, is rape, no matter what. That statement came from the girl he had sex with. I just finished reading an article about him, they interviewed his neighbors. Here's a small statement:

" Rumbley theorized it could all be a misunderstanding. The five-gallon tank of gas found in Howell's car could have been in case he "ran out of gas somewhere in the middle of the desert." And the tannerite he was carrying is used by a lot of gun enthusiasts, including Rumbley. Even the judge on Tuesday who raised Howell's bail from $500,000 to $2 million said he used tannerite and didn't consider that suspicious on its own, though it can be an ingredient in pipe bombs."

and the rest, including personal info.

www.advocate.com...



posted on Jun, 20 2016 @ 06:56 PM
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originally posted by: liveandlearn
a reply to: Aazadan

Me thinks we will never know if it is accurate because they are shutting it down changing the story and threatening people. It will be up to 'we the people' to work it out.


It Will Probably be Demolished Like Sandy Hook.
Just my Guess.



posted on Jun, 20 2016 @ 09:48 PM
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originally posted by: bluesman462002

originally posted by: liveandlearn
a reply to: Aazadan

Me thinks we will never know if it is accurate because they are shutting it down changing the story and threatening people. It will be up to 'we the people' to work it out.


It Will Probably be Demolished Like Sandy Hook.
Just my Guess.


I didn't think the owner would want to re open it either. Here's an article on it,

"Pulse owner vows to reopen nightclub. Is it a good idea?"


Experts say reactions to this decision may vary. Some may see the club’s reopening as a painful reminder of the 49 lives lost, others may see it as a symbol of strength in the community.

Owner Barbara Poma, who founded the nightclub as a safe haven for Orlando’s gay community, welcomed the victims’ relatives into the Pulse family.

“We just have to move forward and find a way to keep their hearts beating and keep our spirits alive,” she said on Today. “We’re not going to let someone take this away from us.”




Linda Rosenberg, president and CEO of the National Council for Behavioral Health, said people react to horrible life events differently. Some may turn the nightclub into a home for activism, using the tragedy as an opportunity to move a cause, she said.

“I think the bigger message that they are trying to convey is that a terrible act like this not only shouldn’t stop us from having a place where people can go and be comfortable, but also that there is some way we can turn this into a positive symbol,” Rosenberg said.
Source
If it is chosen to be re open, in the end will be up to the community if they continue to patrons.



posted on Jun, 20 2016 @ 09:53 PM
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originally posted by: bluesman462002
It Will Probably be Demolished Like Sandy Hook.


But not before the demo crew signs their non-disclosure agreements.



posted on Jun, 21 2016 @ 12:58 PM
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a reply to: liveandlearn

I just read an article where it is stated that Howell had a boyfriend and that he is gay.. also the molestation charges concern a young girl of 12 years.. it sounds to me like he is totally going to be framed; poor guy..



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