Indian navy, aircraft carriers are certianly better than the chinese ones.
Indian AF would surely be able to take on the chinese.
The large chinese army can be held off by india's well trained one.
If pakistan knows its role and keeps quiet, if the war is non nuclear , India will win.
But why should india liberate tibet anyway. it should capture manasarovar, kailash, etc and forget about the rest of tibet and drive out tibetian refugees and that lama guy.Functioality outweighs emotion anyday...
India and Pakistan are a couple of those few nations who didn't lock themsleves into NATO supplies. India flies Russian jets, drives British tanks far superior to anything Chinese and looked over Uziel Galil's shoulder for rifle inspiration.
� Energy -- China's growth depends on imports of oil, gas and coal, making it vulnerable to sharp increases in world energy prices.
But the most immediate danger for RAND and other experts is the fragility of China's state-dominated financial system.
Just ignore this Hawksss guy, he's exactly what I said he is, a CCP drone that no form of logical argument that will penetrate into his thick chinaman skull, apart from name calling.
Not really. They have many a times proven to be cronies to the most corrupt politicians and investors worldwide. I will search and provide you some URLs on this. In the same token, can you believe the RAND report?
Tanks clearly ain't your thing. The Vijayanta is not, repeat NOT a Centurion. Even if it were, the Centurion, at its time, was the best Main Battle Tank on earth. Its time equates to T54/55 and T64. Neither of which come close. Since 1945 Britain has led the world in Tank design, why do you think M1/M1A1 wears Chobham armour?
Those obviously clueless tank operators the Israelis still field (seriously upgraded) Centurions. How did Egyptian T-series tanks do against Israeli M48 Pattons (which lets face it weren't that good anyway) and AMX13s (which were even smaller)?
The South African Oliphant is likewise a seriously upgraded Centurion.
YES I am saying that India can stand up to China....You think it can't but I think it can..we can't make anymore progress on that issue.
And your doubts about the 'friendship treaty' between India : just google for it and you'll get your answers..Incidently the USSR DID support us in the 1962 war.
Hence the point in the other forum about the Chinese using nukes against conventional russian forces. Or have you not read that also??!!
Check this link: www.cdi.org...
Also please read the section on an Indo-russia-china axis.Its a new world out there and strategic partners are a necessity.
Thats why I proposed regional unity in my previous posts on this very same thread but i suppose you haven't read those either!
See my motto: "New axis of evil : India-China-Russia" because im sure you haven't seen that too..
I rest my case
Listen im tired of "wforum" and "sinodefence" as chicom home grown govt backed sites...Hawksss has never posted a link to anything except these two sites in the history of all his posts....I've been to both the sites and they just as bad as say "bharat rakshak" or any other Indian site.I've only posted links to sites which have neutral authors making assesments..not once have I posted a link to any Indian site!!...
This arguement is old...I said that the PLAAF and PLA do not have the resources to divert enough troops/planes and to the tibetian border if a conflict involving CHINESE AGGRESSION and INDIAN RETALIATION ensues...Why because the US and Russia will not sit by and watch...Hell even Japan will flex thier muscles on the chinese coastline...China will fighting the war on more tahn on front...All India has to worry about is Pakistan which won't be much of a problem as it is neck deep in its own problems...
Btw hawkksss do you even know what National Security Index is??!!
In that list ROK is placed above the UK and France..Does that mean ROK is more powerful than these countries??!!
You have to answer me on this NSI bit..I want know your explanation for it!!And if you don't answer, I take it as the proverbial tail between the legs and run action on your part!!
You've gotten away too many times postng rubbish and then shutting up when people correct you!!
Also it has been stated by NEUTRAL POSTERS that IAF pilot are much better than PLAAF pilots and they've also said that NUMBERS DONT MATTER!!
Unlike you proteinx...Hawkksss and COWlan have seen those posts and have kept quiet after that...its just because you've opened the topic up again that they're piggy backing on your insults....
And why does the word $hit form a part of each and every post of yours??!!
obsessed with it?
Naw don't tell me I don't even want to know!!
10,000 tanks china has!!
And 330,000 pilots??
And India has 45 submarines??
I think both sites have GREATLY exxagerated nos...maybe you should get info about both from an american or european or russian site...
Today, the PLA Air Force consists of 330,000 personnel, operating some 3,500 aircraft, over 1,000 surface-to-air missile systems, and several thousand anti-aircraft artillery. As a result of China’s ongoing force reduction and military modernisation, the size of the PLA Air Force has been decreasing since the mid-1980s, with most of its obsolete aircraft based on the 1950s-era Soviet designs being retired from service.
The ground forces along total some 2 million troops and support personnel, or 80% of the PLA’s total manpower. This force also deploys 8,000 tanks, 4,000 armoured vehicles, and 25,000 artillery guns and multiple rocket launchers (MRLs)
It is generally understood that about 70 percent of India's military equipment is of Soviet origin. Some army officials continue to favor Russian-made equipment, such as the T-72 tank, over Indian adaptations of the same items, such as the T-72 MI tank developed by the DRDO.
Originally posted by Daedalus3
The FAS site you quoted..
thanks for the link..
Here's that site's perspective on India..
read the army and AF stas carefully..
Here are the glaring differences I find..
1.The IAF has over 180+ flt. hours confirmed by FAS..PLAAF has max 180 and that too fro the Su-30.. so who's more expereinced?!
2.The area of warfare is mountainous..note the amount of mountainous groups each country has..I think a division holds many brigades, keep that in mind..
3. Check the number of Indian peacekeeping forces abroad and compare them with those of china.. again from the FAS site...
There's the diff in experience for you again..
4. Extra info.. The IAF has had/ is having many war games/exercises with leading AFs of the world..
USA,RSAF,South Africa,UK,Russia, France
PLAAF???.. you tell me... Experience just doesn't come by sitting cooped up and writing rave reviews on planes..
5. Here's a link showing India fighting a war in terrain which is almost EXACTLY like that in tibet..
Now thats what you call recent experience..
Also I'd like to know the amount/type of attack helis china's got..
The IAF has Mi-17(china has em too) and the venerable Mi24/25/35 attack helis.. right out of rambo 3
you got chinese rambos to take care of em??....
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The Qian Wei-1 (QW-1) is the second-generation shoulder-launched, IR-homing, 'fire-and-forget' air defence missile of the PLA. The missile was developed in the early 1990s as a successor to the HN-5. The missile entered service in the mid-1990s in a small number. The missile is said to be similar in designs and performance to the U.S. FIM-92A Stinger.