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reply posted on 23-6-2005 @ 03:28 AM by puneetsg
Originally posted by chinawhite
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why?? i thght this thread was about world war III type scenarios. the link was to a thread discussing which country has the best army

and as it any world war III scenario cant be complete without a discussion of the roles to be played by india, china and even pakistan for tht matter, as (though i hate to admit it) is where world war III, if it does occur, is most likely to start


reply posted on 13-8-2008 @ 12:22 PM by Anonymous ATS
reply to post by Disturbed Deliverer



I know this post is old, but the chances of North Korea invading South Korea are remote. And if North Korea were to do so, South Korea would be reduced to rubble in a matter of hours by artillery strikes from DPRK forces alone, all of which have the range to hit Seoul and further south.

The PLA - if it attacked Taiwan, which given Hu Jintao's foreign policy at the moment makes this unlikley as well - China could very easily cripple Taiwan. Taiwan's only hope of survival is having U.S. military support at the beginning, not 72+ hours after the opening of hostilites that it would take to get sufficent US firepower in the area to face China.

A majority of what information is available to the public about China's military is generally by American think tanks, whom go to lengths to provide disinformation on China's abilities. China possesses a highly capable armed forces that posses a significant threat to regional countries and this should not be taken lightly. China has some of the most advanced naval weaponary in existance, including the Russian Shkval torpedo (which by U.S. Navy public admission, we have no countermeasure for) which can reach almost 300 knots, giving a target only a few seconds to respond.

China also has the highly capable Kilo and Song class diesel-electric submarines, a majority if not all have air independent propulsion (AIP), making them very difficult to detect. It should be noted that in U.S. Navy exercises with Sweden, the U.S. found itself seriously lacking in combating diesel-electric boats, and the Swedish Navy's submarine the Gotland was able to sink a carrier, a cruiser, and a destroyer and escape. To add further insult to injury, near Sanya in southern China, the PLAN is finishing a massive underground submarine base which gives China the ability to deploy it's boats without anyone ever knowing as satellites will no longer be able to capture heat plumes in reactors warming up or show submarines leaving their pens.

Do not underestimate the ability of China's military. It is by far the single largest strategic threat the U.S. faces in the 21st century. It is fortunate for now that it's current leadership is passive and unwilling to be aggressive or confrontational and practices are more sublte, diplomatic approach to solving it's problems. But keep in mind, previous leaders like Jiang Zemin made the U.S. his entire foreign policy objective. He was assertive, he was aggressive, and he was committed to laying waste to Taipei if he had to. And we will see more people like him after Hu Jintao retires.


reply posted on 24-10-2008 @ 01:40 AM by AdmiralX
Originally posted by Xerrog
If America truly becomes entrenched those carrier groups will be needed there. Moving them to protect Taiwan over our hundreds of thousands of deployed troops would be insane. If we attack Iran and Syria you can bet Turkey will get involved in Syria. If Syria is attacked they will almost assuredly attack Isreal in retaliation (even just a missle or two). Isreal will not back down from any threat so it would most likely move to strike back. If Isreal strikes any muslim country outside of Palestine you can bet your ass Egypt and Jordan will get involved.

Egypt and Jordan are on basically friendly terms with the US but they wont stand by and watch Isreal attack anyone. If they came into the mix the US couldn't afford to deploy anything beyond subs away from that region.

With America tied up it would be doubtful if the EU or Nato would be willing to risk direct confrontation with Russia. Nato without the US has done little to nothing. The EU bickers to much internally to come to a conclusion about directly involving themselves with Russia.

Pakistan and India are being forced to be nice at the moment by the big boys. Once Russia, China, and the US are off their backs economically and militarily it would take little to nothing to reingnite a conflict there.

And everyone knows no matter what the outcome would be Kim Jong Il is crazy enough to attack South Korea, and his troops are brainwashed enough not to question it.


LETS leave fantasy and talk briefly about THE ISSUES.

1.) Russia and Georgia and the Russian's seem to have new missiles that can GET PAST the missile defense program the US seeks to employ and has began to employ in ROGUE former Soviet "states." I have been looking to see if others noticed this "ticker" on the news (missiles). Implications of THIS, and the oil Russia has is a HUGE branch of a potential war scenario.

2.) Iran and Israel tensions. There are implications here also.

3.) PAKISTAN/Afghanistan. This worries me. A while back, I told somebody, "If a NUKE accidentally went off over there, in Pakistan/Afganistan, it would be a HORRIBLE ACCIDENT." News is pushing that terrorists are taking over PAKISTAN. Pakistan is SAID to have a nuklear aresnal although I DO NOT know how many missiles, or what delivery systems for that matter they might have. I can see this being USED as an excuse to BOMB the said nuke sites (but could probably be US DROPPING NUKES) as an easy end to the situation over there (easy in terms of life lost for U.S./Allied forces, and MONEY). Biden said, "It won't appear we are right, but we'll need your support, not financially though." Powell said January 21st or 20th or something like that. I feel this is VERY likely.

4.) WHAT are the actual force CAPABILITIES of world powers anyway. TECHNOLOGY, PREMPTIVE capabilities, etc.

U.S.: Army--outnumbered by China, but probably better technology. Navy--U.S. controls seas I believe although this is hard, one scenario I have is a "ship" launches a missile and takes somewhere out, even by "accident." AIR FORCE; DOMINANT. Others are said to have this or that, but experienced pilots, missile technology, smart-target capabilities; WE WOULD WIN most wars in terms of PREMPTIVE striking, and taking out power structures, communication structions etc. WEAKNESS: HOLDING places, occupation is not what U.S. is made for. IF Osama is real, and engineered it, then US brass is playing into it and has been ALL ALONG.

Other countries? What about DEFENSES? Sensor technology? Can they stop our subs? Can they stop Air Force attacks? I have a feeling the U.S. has AURORA craft that can be in and gone with ORDINANCE DROPPED before defenses can even fire (modern defenses). What is it most don't know about? EMP? Other defenses? Other weapons other than nukes?

--I THINK Russia, Iran, China, North Korea=threats.


reply posted on 24-10-2008 @ 01:45 AM by pluckynoonez
reply to post by imAMERICAN



I would like to add to the "CONVO" as it were.... I feel that wars start in certain regions and then that spreads those that are fighting and that causes a majority of mostly everybody to run in retreat and say "oh my gosh, they finally did that one thing we knew they would sell us out on..." but then no one would be around to hear it or say "what me worry?". Just my plucky opinion.

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