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Michelle Obama Tells Men To 'Be Better'

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posted on Jun, 18 2016 @ 10:38 PM
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a reply to: onequestion

In my books men who take care of their family and kids are the heroes.
And they are masculine.

and it was not about destroying. The phrase was: "be better"

it was not something like "you are bad" or "you need to become better". just an advise to be a better person.

At around 4:50 michelle says
"it s easy to brush off the sort of smack talking because i know who i am"

Words to live by. Know who you are, and you can brush things off. Makes life easier.




posted on Jun, 18 2016 @ 10:38 PM
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a reply to: Metallicus

Ty for being gentle with me.

It's not the first time I've been called naive.

The agenda she seems to be trying to sell during this interview is one of self empowerment, and positivity. Maybe I am missing something? If so, don't be shy about it. Cause if there is something more to know, I believe it can only benefit all of us by spreading that awareness.



posted on Jun, 18 2016 @ 10:39 PM
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a reply to: svetlana84

Some things don't exist on the surface you're going to have to look deeper than that.



posted on Jun, 18 2016 @ 10:43 PM
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a reply to: onequestion

That s not my way. If i see a positive and empowering video i take it as a positive and empowering video.

I dont go and dig deeper until i eventually find something that will potentially offend me.



posted on Jun, 18 2016 @ 10:48 PM
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a reply to: svetlana84

Different strokes for different folks.

I don't have to look hard I'm well educated on hypnosis.

It's not about being offended it's about being able to read between the lines. It's in the subtleties.



posted on Jun, 18 2016 @ 10:52 PM
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a reply to: onequestion

Nice one, certified hypnotherapist here as well!

i started it because i wanted to make myself a better and happier person.
And help other people to become better and healthier persons.



posted on Jun, 18 2016 @ 10:59 PM
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a reply to: svetlana84

Oh good, then you should understand the powers of suggestion then.



posted on Jun, 18 2016 @ 11:00 PM
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a reply to: onequestion

Have you ever watched Unbreakable?

I would rather live in a town that doesn't need a hero than a town that does.

In that way... I support an agenda to destroy the hero archetype as well. I believe in prevention stuff. It is better to not need a hero than to need one.

Other than that, I love men's masculinity... I ain't trying to take that away.

I can't speak for anyone else about this matter but... men are generally bigger and stronger than me and I like it that way, lol. I'm not trying to be manly. I'm SO FEMALE it's offensive. And in the end... men can make me feel safe or scared. I'd rather the men in my life make me feel safe but you know you can't always have what you want... and sadly we do live in an environment that needs a hero sometimes.

Fug it, I'll be my own hero. And you can all crucify or burn me at the stake for it if that's what you want. I can't stop ya from hating. And I won't lie, it hurts my feelings, because I'd rather we all love one another any day of the week.



posted on Jun, 18 2016 @ 11:03 PM
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a reply to: geezlouise

Yea but you have no idea what your saying without the hero we wouldn't have the United States to live in right now we'd be living in Mao or Hitler or Stalin or something and you'd be begging for a rugged individualist leader to step in and initiate some changes.

There's more to it than that but I don't feel like giving a history/ mythology lesson or a lesson in Jungian psychology and archetypal theory.



posted on Jun, 18 2016 @ 11:05 PM
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a reply to: onequestion

I appreciate the hero, I do. But I am saying it is better to live in a place that doesn't need a hero. And that's what we have all been working towards building... isn't it?
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posted on Jun, 18 2016 @ 11:07 PM
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a reply to: geezlouise

You have to be the hero in your own awakening in order to live in a utopian paradise.

We all have to awaken to the hero within us and have our revelation within the mind.

There's more to it than that but I'm tired.
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posted on Jun, 18 2016 @ 11:08 PM
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a reply to: onequestion

That's the kind of self empowerment that Michelle Obama and Oprah are talking about, isn't it?



posted on Jun, 18 2016 @ 11:11 PM
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a reply to: geezlouise

No it's not, the Devil comes as light remember that.

There's more going on within the creation of our culture than you think and it's far more subtle than what your seeing on the surface.

It's never as simple as empowerment they don't want empowered females that's just part of the programming there's more going on under the surface.

Don't get me wrong I'm all for female empowerment but I'm not for operation culture creation.



posted on Jun, 18 2016 @ 11:15 PM
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originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic

originally posted by: onequestion
I don't know how to take this but it's my opinion that masculinity is under attack. They us feminized.


Well, get offended, of course! Asking men to be good fathers and provide a good example... Well, that's downright offensive!



Now imagine two men sitting around saying, "Just be better women, do the dishes, do the laundry and just be better women."


LOL! I can't imagine why you would use examples of such trivial and mindless tasks as doing dishes and laundry to equate to being a better parent and setting a good example for your children, which is what Michelle said... Would you be offended if she (or anyone) suggested that women should be better mothers? I know I wouldn't. I would agree... But then, I can take it.

If you just can't handle people being told to improve themselves, you should probably find a space where you won't have to hear such nonsense.


The fact remains that only men were targeted with the implication, assumption and suggestion that men are by default bad, bad parents , bad persons bad everything. Because if you are of the opinion that that is not the case you would not make blanket statements like that unless you are hell bend on making it look like that. They sit there and act so suggestively as if this is some sort of epidemic problem. Much like how Thirdwave feminists like to pretend that they encounter a rapist everytime they go for a walk 7 days a week a.k.a the "rape culture". Which also always happens to exclude woman from the allegations for 'some sort of reason'. What you are seeing here is the same thing, same suggestive talks and the same exclusion of woman from the critique.

There are many men who are great fathers. Most likely millions and millions more then you think anyway. There are also a lot o fathers who are denied this chance because they get the short end of the stick in divorce cases which simply comes down to gender discrimination (since that is all the rage these days lets now also call that for what it really is). In contrast to the message Obama and Oprah are shilling here there are also millions of woman who flat out refuse to take care of their children or do a horrible job at it because they simply are not caring enough a.k.a 'Bad mothers/Woman' and also often guilty of domestic violence to men, other woman and children.

Maybe if they truly were about the "Think of the children!" narrative they should not have limited the discussion about bad parenting to just men. But seeing as this was not about bad parenting but about pushing the idea into peoples heads that men are simply just bad by default and should be assumed to be just that, and always seem to need to 'learn how to be good' for anything, that of course did not fit their agenda.

And who better to push for dishonest suggestions then Michelle Obama and Oprah to fill the need for people to think like and learn to agree with this?



edit on America/ChicagovAmerica/ChicagoSat, 18 Jun 2016 23:22:57 -05001620166America/Chicago by everyone because: typo



posted on Jun, 18 2016 @ 11:16 PM
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I've always found Michelle to be much more intelligent and articulate than her husband, and quite frankly, it scares me.



posted on Jun, 18 2016 @ 11:28 PM
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a reply to: onequestion

Absolutely. And i suggest my hypnotees the tools to be better.

Anyways i think we are heading towards a discussion with little value.

I get your opinion.
I have my opinion.
They don't seem to be the same, which is fine.

Let s agree, we disagree on this point and carry on.



posted on Jun, 18 2016 @ 11:28 PM
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a reply to: onequestion

I'm interested in developing cultures and I'm not sure that anything is evil about it.

I think it's natural and if we could choose which direction we could go into and what we want to develop or not develop, then I am a fan of "operation culture creation." It is better than being swayed to and fro by the forces helplessly.

And culture is something that gives us art, music, causes for us to rally around and laws and codes to live by and etc. Basically it doesn't have to be evil.

I don't know what's going on under the surface, but on the surface the message seems to be pretty positive. I'm glad we're not moving into the direction of an ancient Assyrian type culture where women and children were viewed as property.

In ancient Greek culture, women were basically property as well... and sometimes I do feel like we're living in some secret boys only club where men are the only ones who get to know the rules. So if there's an agenda, it's that we live in a secret ancient Greek type culture where women are just tricked into believing they have any rights. There's definitely a psychological warfare going on... no doubt about that.
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posted on Jun, 19 2016 @ 01:14 AM
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a reply to: onequestion

I don't see anything wrong in her message. She's telling people to hold themselves to a higher standard, something more people should do.



posted on Jun, 19 2016 @ 01:21 AM
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Personally, I don't have a problem with this statement.



posted on Jun, 19 2016 @ 02:03 AM
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Just in time for Father's Day!!

Happy Daddy Day ATS!





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