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Originally posted by butters30
So whats wrong with being raised in a day? I was raised in a dya that took myself and my "class" over 12 hours. You have to be some kind of devoted to sit through 12 hours of lecture and "play" Though I didnt wait 3 months to attain master mason I dont feel shorted or that I am without knowlage of the craft. Just short on time also I know all the brotheres very well in my lodge and had so for a few years. The waiting proccess for my raising took nearly 3 months.
Originally posted by Golfie
I held a chair (not an elected officer) the very next year. I had to all but give it up due to my wife having premie twins Not because the Lodge asked me to, but because I didn't feel right holding a spot when I couldn't be there all the time. Also, I know of a few "one day"'ers that have held similiar posts in a short amount of time. In my area (very rural) most of our members are older and are eager to get young people involved and learning as quickly as they want.
Originally posted by Seraphim_Serpente
Hi guys - I am a Mason - how do I become "Illuminati" - HA, HA, HA, HA!
Nice Try!
Originally posted by greenmansmind
...i am amazed that everyone looks like a part of a herd..
i answer to no one and seek no new landscapes..just look thru new eyes..keep an open mind...stop thinking
...i am not a mason or any of that other crap...and i have found answers and done things beyond our perceptions...
greenmans mind
Originally posted by greenmansmind
you think there is no time when you reach enlightenment.....to exist amonst the world..you need to keep a foot in the box on occasion.......to say there is no time or think you are above the rest because you are enlightened..is not being enlightend...i wanted to see what everyone is wasting there time on..i found it to be amusing....
everyone is so distracted by outer stimuli
everything you need to know sits in the soul...
i dont think many have any idea what it is like to be enlightened...
at first one who thinks they are enlightened..seem so enlightened..and then when they are enlightened..they dont seem so at all..
Originally posted by sebatwerk
But doesn't it kinda take away the feeling of satisfaction and importance that you get when you worked hard to earn something? That, to me, is what makes the degree of Master Mason so "sublime". You're no longer and eap, or an fc... you're a true a tried MASTER OF YOUR CRAFT. I don't know of any other crafts where masters are made is as short of a time.
The only reason this is being done is to up numbers and, in my opinion, there's a million other things that can be done first and foremost to achieve that purpose.
Originally posted by Golfie
Originally posted by sebatwerk
But doesn't it kinda take away the feeling of satisfaction and importance that you get when you worked hard to earn something? That, to me, is what makes the degree of Master Mason so "sublime". You're no longer and eap, or an fc... you're a true a tried MASTER OF YOUR CRAFT. I don't know of any other crafts where masters are made is as short of a time.
You know, I did feel that way. And had apprehentions on how the lodge would "recieve" me. Thus why I consulted a bunch of the "older" members before I took that path. They recognized that people in this day and age don't always have the time to devote that is needed due to work/home/etc. At the time I fell in to that category. Do I regret it? No. Would I do it that way again? Depends on the situation at that time.
The only reason this is being done is to up numbers and, in my opinion, there's a million other things that can be done first and foremost to achieve that purpose.
This is true. But from my discussion with GL officers in my state, they looked at how many people had made it to eap or fc and never made the final step. Most when asked why citing that they "didn't have the time to devote to it". So I don't think it's a "recruiting" technique. We don't require it nor push it on the candidate. Just offer it as an alternative.
Again ours doesn't include the initiation just fc and mm.
Originally posted by sebatwerkmaybe we should increase the privileges of those degrees, so people don't have to feel like they should be in a hurry to become a Master Mason...?
Originally posted by Nygdan
Originally posted by sebatwerkmaybe we should increase the privileges of those degrees, so people don't have to feel like they should be in a hurry to become a Master Mason...?
What privileges? Now, I don't expect you to mean 'access to the holy grail' or 'you get to hold the virgin down during the sacrifice', but what privileges? Purely honorary ones? Research access?