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Bill Maher Criticizes Liberal Support of Islam

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posted on Jun, 18 2016 @ 11:52 AM
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originally posted by: ReprobateRaccoon
1. I strongly dislike many self proclaimed "christians" because they spend so much time persecuting minorities and marginalizing anyone who dares have an opinion that's different from their own.


You need to leave the U.S. sometime, you'll see what real persecution is! A Christian baker doesn't want to cater a gay wedding, and you would call that persecution, LOL. Conservatives don't want to pay for all the expenses of millions of hispanic immigrants, and that's marginalizing hispanics? Liberal brainwashing is a hell of a drug!




posted on Jun, 18 2016 @ 11:53 AM
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a reply to: ReprobateRaccoon

do you deny my points, that leftists hate Christians, and Muslims hate Christians?

do you deny that the left marginalizes, mocks and verbally assaults Christians in the West?

where/how are today's Christians persecuting or marginalizing anyone?

what makes you think I hate Muslims?

was there a nationwide trend of Christian pastors celebrating the massacre, or one or two nuts (like Westboro)?



posted on Jun, 18 2016 @ 11:56 AM
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originally posted by: Kali74

The reason I never concede is because to me it means conceding to the notion that the rights of Muslims in the US are debatable and conditional, I can't do that.

What about the rights of non-Muslims in the US? Are they debatable and conditional?

What about the rights of Christians in the US? Are they debatable and conditional?

What about the rights of gun owners in the US? Are they debatable and conditional?

What about the rights of the accused in the US? Are they debatable and conditional?

What about being Muslim makes their rights especially inalienable? Why are their rights any more sanctimonious than anyone else's?
edit on 6/18/16 by NthOther because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 18 2016 @ 12:06 PM
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a reply to: onequestion

Bill is a failed actor turned celebrity iluminati plastic mouth piece because they had to do something with his ass as a requirment. Check him on"Murder she wrote" and see
why he failed.

He was horrible

So then he tried to be funny

Now he's just an ass.



posted on Jun, 18 2016 @ 12:12 PM
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At the end Bill states his intent is support for the 80% of moderate Muslims.

He states moderate Muslims feel the same way about Extreme Muslims and extremism in the culture.

I'd say most people agree with that.

We don't accept Voodoo in America either, but it continues in some areas.

IMO - - People make a religion. The religion doesn't make them.

IMO - - Most American Muslims are good people who just want to live their lives.



posted on Jun, 18 2016 @ 12:17 PM
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originally posted by: randyvs
a reply to: onequestion

Bill is a failed actor turned celebrity iluminati plastic mouth piece because they had to do something with his ass as a requirment. Check him on"Murder she wrote" and see
why he failed.


Bill is a graduate of Cornell University where he double majored in English and History.

He began his career as a stand-up comedian.

Where exactly has Bill Maher failed?



posted on Jun, 18 2016 @ 01:07 PM
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a reply to: tothetenthpower

You're doing it right now. You always want to try and make Christianity seem like the worst of the two or somehow less sophisticated than Islam. Are you a Muslim?



posted on Jun, 18 2016 @ 01:11 PM
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originally posted by: Annee
At the end Bill states his intent is support for the 80% of moderate Muslims.

He states moderate Muslims feel the same way about Extreme Muslims and extremism in the culture.

I'd say most people agree with that.
.


You could say the same of whites in America and yet whites are the number one target of SJWs.



posted on Jun, 18 2016 @ 01:13 PM
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a reply to: tothetenthpower

Wait, for purposes of clarification was it our military force that caused all of those causalities or were they terrorist related?

We killed 100,000's of civilians with our weapons?

You sure about that?

Have any sources?



posted on Jun, 18 2016 @ 01:16 PM
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originally posted by: ElGoobero
a reply to: ReprobateRaccoon

do you deny my points, that leftists hate Christians, and Muslims hate Christians?


Some leftists hate christians. Some christians hate leftists. (like you)
Some muslims hate christians. Some christians hate muslims. (like you)

You reap what you sow.


do you deny that the left marginalizes, mocks and verbally assaults Christians in the West?

"christian" politicians control 50/50 state legislatures. They inhabit almost every governor's mansion. They account for the overwhelming number of members of the US House and US Senate. Forgive me if I don't feel sorry for your lack of representation.


where/how are today's Christians persecuting or marginalizing anyone?

Laws are being passed nationwide that "protect religious beliefs" at the expense of gays and transgender people. How many laws are being passed based on peoples religious belief against abortion? Which group was the main bearer of gloom and doom in the fight against civil rights? Which group fought hardest to prevent passage of the ERA?


what makes you think I hate Muslims?

One need not look any further than the accusatory and hostile manner that you refer to others who don't share your beliefs.


was there a nationwide trend of Christian pastors celebrating the massacre, or one or two nuts (like Westboro)?
How many need to do it before you accept that there are a lot of despicable "christians?" Worse, despite the horrid things said, many/most "christian" churches never condemned those people for their comments. In South Carolina a deranged gunman kills 9 christians and the christian world is turned upside down. When 49 gays died, many of those same "good christian people" remain silent because of their inherent animosity towards anyone different from themselves.

Likewise, deranged killers shot up a school in Sandy Hook and a bunch of churchgoers in Charleston, and they're written off as mentally deranged. People die in San Bernadino and Orlando, and it's all a conspiracy by muslim terrorists. (Notice when the killer was christian, they weren't labeled "christian terrorists?) Nooo, no bias there. /sarcasm



posted on Jun, 18 2016 @ 01:19 PM
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posted on Jun, 18 2016 @ 01:31 PM
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originally posted by: TruMcCarthy

originally posted by: ReprobateRaccoon
1. I strongly dislike many self proclaimed "christians" because they spend so much time persecuting minorities and marginalizing anyone who dares have an opinion that's different from their own.


You need to leave the U.S. sometime, you'll see what real persecution is! A Christian baker doesn't want to cater a gay wedding, and you would call that persecution, LOL. Conservatives don't want to pay for all the expenses of millions of hispanic immigrants, and that's marginalizing hispanics? Liberal brainwashing is a hell of a drug!


In my 20+ years in the military, and the 20+ years since retirement, I've traveled to over 40 countries. I've lived in and/or have been stationed in Germany, Bahrain, Qatar. (FWIW I've also visited all 50 states, and have lived in CA, HI, WA, NV, CO, MO, NY, MD, DC, GA, AL, MS, TX and FL) I'm well aware of the challenges others face, however I don't think that's a valid defense for christians continued marginalization of others. As far as hispanic immigration, I'm not sure exactly what you want me to say. Neither I, nor my kids, nor my parents, nor my grandparents migrated illegally, and none of us support illegal immigration. I'm all for deporting illegals, however we need to be careful how we approach the problem.

Did you know that many illegals own their own homes here in the US? What impact would Trump's deportation plan for 12 million illegals have on the housing market when you have hundreds of thousands of foreclosures when the homeowners get deported? The numbers I've seen say that the impact would be similar to the the combined financial debacle from 2007 through 2014. Do you really want the housing market to crumble and home prices to plummet? Think man, think!

Far right "conservative" brainwashing is a hell of a drug!



posted on Jun, 18 2016 @ 01:53 PM
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a reply to: ReprobateRaccoon

I never said anything about deporting hispanics, I just don't want to have to bust my butt at work so that I can pay for their food, housing, education, health care, welfare etc. If hispanics weren't socialists, using the government to steal my hard earned money, I would have no problem with them. Unfortunately most of them are, which is why the countries they left to come here are complete hell holes. Socialism helps the rich and powerful while destroying the middle class and trapping the masses into poverty. Is it any wonder so many hard working Americans aren't thrilled about hispanic immigration?



posted on Jun, 18 2016 @ 02:40 PM
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originally posted by: TheBulk

originally posted by: Annee
At the end Bill states his intent is support for the 80% of moderate Muslims.

He states moderate Muslims feel the same way about Extreme Muslims and extremism in the culture.

I'd say most people agree with that.
.


You could say the same of whites in America and yet whites are the number one target of SJWs.


I'm not even going to respond to SJW anymore.



posted on Jun, 18 2016 @ 02:47 PM
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originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: tothetenthpower

Wait, for purposes of clarification was it our military force that caused all of those causalities or were they terrorist related?

We killed 100,000's of civilians with our weapons?

You sure about that?

Have any sources?


The numbers vary from 100 to 500 thousand violent deaths directly tied to the wars in the middle east over the last 20 years.

en.wikipedia.org...

That's just Iraq. I'm not saying we are exclusively responsible, but the destabilization that led to this sort of thing was most certainly caused by exporting 'Western Democracy".

You're not going to find a real 'source' that tallies 100% due to a variety of factors from missing census details to the military on both sides fudging the numbers sometimes etc.

~Tenth



posted on Jun, 18 2016 @ 02:53 PM
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originally posted by: TheBulk
a reply to: tothetenthpower

You're doing it right now. You always want to try and make Christianity seem like the worst of the two or somehow less sophisticated than Islam. Are you a Muslim?


I'm an Atheist...bordering Agnostic I suppose you could say.

All I stated was that in my personal experience of people I have met, personally, I've met more extremist minded Christians than Muslims.

That's all.

I don't think one is better than the other, I think they are equally bad at face value and like any religion only become sensible if you cherry pick what to follow in their respective doctrines.

ETA: BUT I have always maintained that Islam the way it currently is taught and viewed by the majority of Muslims is worse than Christianity. They need a come to Jesus moment among themselves as I stated earlier. The schism will happen eventually.

~Tenth
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posted on Jun, 18 2016 @ 03:25 PM
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originally posted by: ElGoobero
a reply to: ReprobateRaccoon

do you deny my points, that leftists hate Christians, and Muslims hate Christians?



First of all, liberals are more than half the country, and 80% of the country is Christian,

And nobody gets a seat unless their religion is plastered all over their campaign, so...

Yea I'm gonna say you and your supporters are upset that there are Christians out there who don't think that Christianity is the pinnacle of every Americans life and the most important thing to consider, and would consider such self-serving behavior rather un-Christian, actually.

Sorry, but it's impossible for me to agree with you. That must make me a Christian-hating, Muslim-loving Leftist; of which I am none.

Can't stand the political left, and I don't have nearly as many problems with Christians as I do with the biggest embarrassment of the capabilities of the human imagination known as Islam.
edit on 18-6-2016 by DeadFoot because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 18 2016 @ 03:45 PM
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I liked how in that one speech of Obama's, he said why he doesn't use the phrase "radical Islamic extremists"....I'm paraphrasing now...."somehow you don't think we (the administration) know who the enemy is" ?...."and you don't think the American people know who the enemy is" ?.....it's like he is saying to the right wing....do you think that we as a nation, are that F'in stupid????



posted on Jun, 18 2016 @ 03:47 PM
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originally posted by: jimmyx
I liked how in that one speech of Obama's, he said why he doesn't use the phrase "radical Islamic extremists"....I'm paraphrasing now...."somehow you don't think we (the administration) know who the enemy is" ?...."and you don't think the American people know who the enemy is" ?.....it's like he is saying to the right wing....do you think that we as a nation, are that F'in stupid????


I like it



posted on Jun, 18 2016 @ 05:16 PM
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A lot of the discussion on here is regarding what Governments do and almost apologizing for the way the average or Radical Muslim person acts when they are in a western country. Ask yourself would another group of people act the same way if they migrated to a Muslim country??.. There is a large number of Catholic (mainly south east Asian) workers in Saudi Arabia and all we hear about that is how poorly they are treated by the host country.

Reference:
www.hrw.org...

There is no mass Migration of Christians or Buddhist and the only real mass migration of another religion that I can think of in my lifetime would be Sikhs and Hindus into the UK and I have never heard of any tension or issues and in fact they do their very best to integrate into society, but then it is not a religion of hate?. So if for whatever reason there was a turn around and we had Christians migrating to Muslim countries my money would be on that there would not be the issues we face that we have today with mass Muslim migration to the west.



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