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originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: Gryphon66
Blah Blah, name calling, "you, you, you". Lost the argument (see my edit bottom of last page), so resorting to personal attack, again.
originally posted by: AMPTAH
originally posted by: WeAreAWAKE
While I follow you and support your intent...no legal American citizen should be put on any list that takes away their rights without FIRST being given a chance to argue it in court.
The problem here is the speed with which the government can take action when they receive new information.
If an airport camera spots some guy carrying something unusual, and by facial recognition, followed by background check in some database, he becomes suddenly a "new prospect" for possible suspicious activity, but is about to board a plane, they can't wait until the guy has his day in court before putting him on the watchlist and giving the order for no-fly.
So, it makes logical sense, that they would act immediately, for the safety of the public, weighing the risks that they are wrong about a single individual, against the risk that they are right and the public is harmed. So, with my proposal, they can act right away, but then have to justify that action afterwards. In other words, they can't "keep" the guy on the watchlist without providing good justification.
originally posted by: Irishhaf
Didnt watch the entire thing, but following the link this is from 2015...
pretty sure it was just a straight attack on these no fly lists, since the no fly no buy argument is still fairly new.
…that others containing the same fault can rail against in a never ceasing cycle of becoming that which one disposes over and over again in a ceaseless cycle until one knows better.
Expect better from yourself and youll always change the world... expect better from others and it will always be the same. Assume those two statements as simple and you've already lost.