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Labour MP Jo Cox has died after being shot three times in the street near her office by an attacker

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posted on Jun, 16 2016 @ 06:24 PM
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originally posted by: CharlestonChew
a reply to: TrueBrit

Anatomy of the State

Rothbard sums up eloquently what the state is, and is not.


Yet that is about America, NOT the UK.




posted on Jun, 16 2016 @ 06:31 PM
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originally posted by: TerryDon79

originally posted by: CharlestonChew
a reply to: TrueBrit

Anatomy of the State

Rothbard sums up eloquently what the state is, and is not.


Yet that is about America, NOT the UK.


What do you mean? Rothbard's Anatomy of the State applies to all governments.



posted on Jun, 16 2016 @ 06:33 PM
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originally posted by: CharlestonChew

originally posted by: TerryDon79

originally posted by: CharlestonChew
a reply to: TrueBrit

Anatomy of the State

Rothbard sums up eloquently what the state is, and is not.


Yet that is about America, NOT the UK.


What do you mean? Rothbard's Anatomy of the State applies to all governments.


As many times as people say it does, it doesn't. It was specifically written about and for America.



posted on Jun, 16 2016 @ 06:34 PM
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a reply to: CharlestonChew

Heh...

Your man Rothbard had a very low opinion of the man in the street. I do not. I believe that his statement to the effect that the common man has no interest in intellectual affairs, is bunkum, and marks him out as something of a toff, not to mention rendering his attitudes based thereupon faulty in the extreme.

He, and his elitist waffle can jump off a pier for all I care.



posted on Jun, 16 2016 @ 06:34 PM
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originally posted by: TerryDon79

originally posted by: CharlestonChew

originally posted by: TerryDon79

originally posted by: CharlestonChew
a reply to: TrueBrit

Anatomy of the State

Rothbard sums up eloquently what the state is, and is not.


Yet that is about America, NOT the UK.


What do you mean? Rothbard's Anatomy of the State applies to all governments.


As many times as people say it does, it doesn't. It was specifically written about and for America.


Lol, Ok



posted on Jun, 16 2016 @ 06:36 PM
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originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: CharlestonChew

Heh...

Your man Rothbard had a very low opinion of the man in the street. I do not. I believe that his statement to the effect that the common man has no interest in intellectual affairs, is bunkum, and marks him out as something of a toff, not to mention rendering his attitudes based thereupon faulty in the extreme.

He, and his elitist waffle can jump off a pier for all I care.


Yeah, dude, it's weird how people can say both valid and invalid things.

Like, Rothbard said valid things I agree with and also invalid things I disagree with.

But his valid statements are not invalidated because he said things that were not valid, you know?



posted on Jun, 16 2016 @ 06:36 PM
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originally posted by: CharlestonChew

originally posted by: TerryDon79

originally posted by: CharlestonChew

originally posted by: TerryDon79

originally posted by: CharlestonChew
a reply to: TrueBrit

Anatomy of the State

Rothbard sums up eloquently what the state is, and is not.


Yet that is about America, NOT the UK.


What do you mean? Rothbard's Anatomy of the State applies to all governments.


As many times as people say it does, it doesn't. It was specifically written about and for America.


Lol, Ok


I guess you don't understand the fundemental differences between the 2 governments, or you wouldn't have tried to use that book.



posted on Jun, 16 2016 @ 06:39 PM
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a reply to: SprocketUK

The warmongering Liar is surely nothing to be proud of.

I wouldn't be too impressed with the current party leader either.

Keir Hardies creation is still one of the worlds best examples of the advocacy of social progress.

There is much to be admired in that history.




posted on Jun, 16 2016 @ 06:40 PM
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originally posted by: avgguy
That's impossible, guns are illegal there.


yup, that's why only one person was killed



posted on Jun, 16 2016 @ 06:41 PM
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originally posted by: TerryDon79

originally posted by: CharlestonChew

originally posted by: TerryDon79

originally posted by: CharlestonChew

originally posted by: TerryDon79

originally posted by: CharlestonChew
a reply to: TrueBrit

Anatomy of the State

Rothbard sums up eloquently what the state is, and is not.


Yet that is about America, NOT the UK.


What do you mean? Rothbard's Anatomy of the State applies to all governments.


As many times as people say it does, it doesn't. It was specifically written about and for America.


Lol, Ok


I guess you don't understand the fundemental differences between the 2 governments, or you wouldn't have tried to use that book.


Your premise is completely untrue. His analysis applies to all governments. The UK's government is just as parasitic as the US government or any other. The UK government taxes the private sector, too.



posted on Jun, 16 2016 @ 06:44 PM
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a reply to: Brotherman

I thought that was Chicago...



posted on Jun, 16 2016 @ 06:45 PM
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originally posted by: CharlestonChew

originally posted by: TerryDon79

originally posted by: CharlestonChew

originally posted by: TerryDon79

originally posted by: CharlestonChew

originally posted by: TerryDon79

originally posted by: CharlestonChew
a reply to: TrueBrit

Anatomy of the State

Rothbard sums up eloquently what the state is, and is not.


Yet that is about America, NOT the UK.


What do you mean? Rothbard's Anatomy of the State applies to all governments.


As many times as people say it does, it doesn't. It was specifically written about and for America.


Lol, Ok


I guess you don't understand the fundemental differences between the 2 governments, or you wouldn't have tried to use that book.


Your premise is completely untrue. His analysis applies to all governments.
No, it doesn't. Also, it can't.



The UK's government is just as parasitic as the US government or any other. The UK government taxes the private sector, too.
So you want to do away with government?

What would we have instead? A different group of people who control things? Yeah, that's still a government. Any group of people that control a country, is a government. Even a small amount of "little people" would be a government.



posted on Jun, 16 2016 @ 06:51 PM
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In all truthfulness, without a proper government in place I think we’d blatantly have sadistic parasites in place like the guy who we speak of today. Sorta no-win either way really.



posted on Jun, 16 2016 @ 06:51 PM
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a reply to: CharlestonChew

If his invalid statement (a) is the foundation for statement (b) then statement (b) is compromised from its very foundation upwards. That's just logic.

Worse, if his erroneous statement (a) was the basis or an initiating factor in how he understood his subject matter, then it may render his entire opinion utterly ridiculous, as in this case.



posted on Jun, 16 2016 @ 06:52 PM
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a reply to: draoicht

Definitely.
Years ago I read the ragged trousered philanthopists by Robert Tressell and people of the Abyss by Jack London (yes, THE Jack London) and that was when I truly got the idea of what Labour should be and unions and what actual social justice was. Pity so many are blind to it really.



posted on Jun, 16 2016 @ 06:59 PM
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a reply to: CharlestonChew

The poisonous drivel you espouse has so far achieved exactly nothing in terms of historical progress.

It is just antisocial speculation.

Even Anarcho Syndicalism failed totally in the face of real opposition.

The faux revolutionary philosophy of Anarchy is simply Political Nihilism.

Utterly unrealistic and doomed to failure.

This is the real world, not abstract political theory zone.

T&C forbid any commentary about you personally.




posted on Jun, 16 2016 @ 07:08 PM
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originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: CharlestonChew

If his invalid statement (a) is the foundation for statement (b) then statement (b) is compromised from its very foundation upwards. That's just logic.

Worse, if his erroneous statement (a) was the basis or an initiating factor in how he understood his subject matter, then it may render his entire opinion utterly ridiculous, as in this case.


Well, yes, I would completely agree with this, but his opinion regarding "people in the streets" isn't the axiom laying the basis for his political/economic philosophy.



posted on Jun, 16 2016 @ 07:15 PM
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Shot? By a gun? In the UK? I'm pretty sure that's illegal over there. They have very strict "gun laws" that keep people "safe". No "gun free zone" sign posted? I don't see how this could happen! Do they still have guns across the pond?



posted on Jun, 16 2016 @ 07:19 PM
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originally posted by: murphy22
Shot? By a gun? In the UK? I'm pretty sure that's illegal over there. They have very strict "gun laws" that keep people "safe". No "gun free zone" sign posted? I don't see how this could happen! Do they still have guns across the pond?


Don't be so silly.
It's quite possible if this really was a mentally ill guy in a rage that he could have wasted a whole bunch of folks with a modern semi auto.
The fact that they (and the ammo) is not easily available means he had to rely on a gun that was Great war era or home made, and so we lost one person, instead of a whole bunch of them.

I'm not the biggest fan of our gun laws, it's true, but they seem to have worked in this case to lessen the damage done.



posted on Jun, 16 2016 @ 07:20 PM
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a reply to: murphy22

Someone has not read the thread. The answers you seek are waiting to be found, within these very pages!




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