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originally posted by: DanteGaland
originally posted by: Konduit
So basically they're throwing a tantrum until they get their way. Welcome to the political left.
Much in the SAME way the GOP held the entire country HOSTAGE not only ONCE but SEVERAL times over the national budget? Anyone remember those times? The shutdowns AND furloughs?
Good for the goose, but not the gander I guess?
Support what you believe! Ignore the rest! Yay!
But to understand its argument, one must look beyond the Second Amendment the group loves so dear to another part of the Constitution: the one that guarantees due process of law for anyone whose rights the government intends to target. On this front, the NRA has forcefully and successfully argued government watch lists are constitutionally problematic because they’re bloated and sweep far too broadly, ensnaring innocent Americans that otherwise pose no threat to national security — including one prominent U.S. senator, media pundits, executives, even babies and the late Nelson Mandela. When anti-gun furor following the Paris terrorist attacks reached fever pitch last year, the NRA pointed to our own coverage here in The Huffington Post to underscore the myriad problems with terror watch lists, and sought to dispel the public misperception that the organization was somehow interested in arming homegrown jihadists. “The NRA does not want terrorists or dangerous people to have firearms, any suggestion otherwise is offensive and wrong,” a statement from NRA spokeswoman Jennifer Baker read at the time. The NRA’s only objective is to ensure that Americans who are wrongly on the list are afforded their constitutional right to due process. National Rifle Association spokeswoman Jennifer Baker She continued: “The NRA’s only objective is to ensure that Americans who are wrongly on the list are afforded their constitutional right to due process. It is appalling that anti-gun politicians are exploiting the Paris terrorist attacks to push their gun-control agenda and distract from President Obama’s failed foreign policy.” Notice the Second Amendment is nowhere in that statement, but due process is. It was the latter constitutional right, which provides citizens a judicial forum to challenge unwarranted government overreach, that brought to the NRA’s side an unlikely bedfellow: the American Civil Liberties Union.
originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: ~Lucidity
Oh, I'm sure they are ...
Pardon me if I'm not re-assured. They say they are "addressing" lots of things in bills that turn out to be clusterclucks when they get put into practice. Where our current government is concerned the only thing I have any re-assurance of is that they want power, no matter who is in charge, and they will do whatever is in my worst interests.
the TLDR they argue false narratives from a stand point of ignorance and ignore any good points made and brought up in arguments and scream from the roof tops for the children because the bulk of them have no idea what the hell they are talking about
originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: ~Lucidity
As I understand it Marteen traveled to Saudi Arabia.
So much for 'no' fly lists.