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America is dying. Why you should vote for Trump from a guy who hates him.

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posted on Jun, 15 2016 @ 12:42 PM
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a reply to: TonyS

Maybe Texas should have made an example and stand by its people?
Who acted short sighted and corrupt? The feds, or texas?
Who took the money?

Just a question.




posted on Jun, 15 2016 @ 12:45 PM
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So please, vote Trump.


Nope. And let me tell you why:

While I agree with Trump on some things, that's not enough to negate one very, very dangerous thing for which he says he stands and wants to do, which is pretty much, in many aspects, throw the Constitution out the window. This includes the assault on the First Amendment and the policies of strict intolerant exclusivity against people who he (and many others) perceive as different, who have different beliefs, or come from other countries.

Trump is dangerous to the foundations of freedom upon which this country was founded.
edit on 15-6-2016 by Liquesence because: oops. html



posted on Jun, 15 2016 @ 12:47 PM
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a reply to: Peeple

I mean that sounds nice. It really does. And I wish I lived in a world where it really worked like that. Maybe that's how the world worked before I was born, but it simply doesn't function that way today. The system is rigged. The house always wins. People keep looking at their iPhones and eating Cheetohs (TM). People don't care. They need something to MAKE them care.



posted on Jun, 15 2016 @ 12:50 PM
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a reply to: MrSensible

Like a civil war?
What do you have in mind?



posted on Jun, 15 2016 @ 12:50 PM
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a reply to: MrSensible

Your justifications for Trump apply equally to Hillary.



posted on Jun, 15 2016 @ 12:51 PM
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a reply to: Liquesence

George Bush threw the constitution out the window with the patriot act and the socialist muslim and his tranny companion have trashed your constitution, its too late good men do nothing and your headed full tilt towards the inevitable conclusion within O lets say 6 months or less.



posted on Jun, 15 2016 @ 12:58 PM
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originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: MrSensible

Like a civil war?
What do you have in mind?


A civil war would probably do that quite nicely. People always respond well to needless bloodshed. It's just one of those cold, horrible truths about humanity. We don't realize how stupid we've been until AFTER we've murdered a whole bunch of people for no good reason.

Of course people will say "oh no, not me, I'm not like that". But we're not talking about individuals here. We're talking about humans as a species. A violent, angry, group of apes with iPhones.



posted on Jun, 15 2016 @ 01:00 PM
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originally posted by: Liquesence

So please, vote Trump.


Nope. And let me tell you why:

While I agree with Trump on some things, that's not enough to negate one very, very dangerous thing for which he says he stands and wants to do, which is pretty much, in many aspects, throw the Constitution out the window. This includes the assault on the First Amendment and the policies of strict intolerant exclusivity against people who he (and many others) perceive as different, who have different beliefs, or come from other countries.

Trump is dangerous to the foundations of freedom upon which this country was founded.


So if he did that, wouldn't it help to unite America against him? And wouldn't uniting America be a good thing?

And if America failed to unite against him, do we really deserve the rights afforded to us by the constitution if we're not willing to fight to protect them?



posted on Jun, 15 2016 @ 01:11 PM
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a reply to: Peeple

They're all short sighted and corrupt.
At the state level, my guess is Rick Perry; he probably needed the $$$$$ to balance the state budget during a shortfall year. He regretted it from what I understand and that's when he realized he didn't want to sign on to similar type programs so he opted out of the ACA health care exchange idea. He opted out of another type program for the same reason.

The "States" are learning the hard way..........don't take candy from the crook.



posted on Jun, 15 2016 @ 01:15 PM
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a reply to: MrSensible

But shouldn't you express your frustration and expectations, make a declaration, before you use violence?

At least then nobody could say they weren't warned. Out of good sport?

It's been a while since the last time I heard someone say, or read what someone really believed in, what "pursuit of happiness" means. Maybe start there?
Which frame would you need to pursue your happiness?



posted on Jun, 15 2016 @ 01:17 PM
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a reply to: TonyS

One could say that's progress. At least they learn.



posted on Jun, 15 2016 @ 01:20 PM
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a reply to: MrSensible

We're talking about humans as a species. A violent, angry, group of apes with iPhones.

All we have to do is look around to see how true your words are.

It is not just the protestors or the terrorist. A brief stroll about ATS will show you just how violent and vicious we are in spirit, even if that person claims they would never hurt a fly.

We have been successfully divided. Everyone is ready to fight and kill for what is right. The only problem is that your right has to match their right, or else you are wrong, and should be converted or eliminated.

The rights and wrongs of a society changes with the wind, and those that are in power. The right we kill for today, may be the wrong that gets us killed tomorrow.



posted on Jun, 15 2016 @ 01:31 PM
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originally posted by: MrSensible

originally posted by: Liquesence

So please, vote Trump.


Nope. And let me tell you why:

While I agree with Trump on some things, that's not enough to negate one very, very dangerous thing for which he says he stands and wants to do, which is pretty much, in many aspects, throw the Constitution out the window. This includes the assault on the First Amendment and the policies of strict intolerant exclusivity against people who he (and many others) perceive as different, who have different beliefs, or come from other countries.

Trump is dangerous to the foundations of freedom upon which this country was founded.


So if he did that, wouldn't it help to unite America against him? And wouldn't uniting America be a good thing?

And if America failed to unite against him, do we really deserve the rights afforded to us by the constitution if we're not willing to fight to protect them?


You're essentially implying destroying the American way of life just to unite people. No. Once that is gone it would likely be very hard to put back or replace, which is why preserving it is so very important: the MOST important thing.

That's seriously your proposal? To possibly destroy the foundations and principles upon which this nation was founded just to unite against Trump, or to prove a point? How about we, um, unite BEFORE the most sacred of documents that upholds our way of life is completely destroyed?

A majority of the people is the US do not deserve that. They simply want to live and carry on with their lives; to intentionally disrupt or destroy that is not fair to them just because some people want to see it "burned down."

That's not very sensible.



posted on Jun, 18 2016 @ 04:10 PM
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a reply to: Liquesence

This is the problem. So many of the hardcore Trump supporters are actually in favor of watching the United States collapse. They're ready to burn the whole thing down.



posted on Jun, 18 2016 @ 04:13 PM
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originally posted by: Vector99
a reply to: Gothmog

Compared to the last 2 presidents he's a saint. The last 2 signed up for NAFTA and the PATRIOT act. Oh and the repeal of glass-steagall.

Obama only implemented the TPP...oh wait damn, ok you win.



LOL You really dont know Trump do you? do some research on his stances on those when they were both introduced.....

And no hes not a saint, I LOATHED Obama everyone here knows that, But Trump could very well be 10 times worse



posted on Jun, 18 2016 @ 04:19 PM
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I hope all Trump supports will be first in line to make Saudi great by fighting Iran with Saudi money,.



“We made a power out of Iran,” the outspoken billionaire told host Bill O’Reilly on Fox News’s “The O’Reilly Factor.”

“They are looking to go into Saudi Arabia,” Trump continued. "They want the oil, they want the money, [and] they want a lot of other things."

“That’s phase one — to go into Saudi Arabia and, frankly, the Saudis don’t survive without us. And the question is, at what point do we get involved and how much will Saudi Arabia pay us to save them? That’s ultimately what’s going to happen.”



Watch the clip and weep....
Trump: 'I would want to protect Saudi Arabia' - thehill



posted on Jun, 18 2016 @ 04:22 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

It's just falling in slow motion.

btw 50 eh? I had no idea, i would have guessed around 30ish



posted on Jun, 18 2016 @ 04:24 PM
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a reply to: VimanaExplorer

Meanwhile...




posted on Jun, 18 2016 @ 04:45 PM
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a reply to: awareness10

I agree, She is getting funded by the same people. But I don't think any democratic president can pull off a all out war with Iran.

Trump is so crazy, and he may get more supporters to fight for Saudi cause. All the pandering of veterans by Trump tells me one thing, he is a war time president. War is the only way to make Petrodollar/MIC/Saudi great again.



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