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CONFIRMED: FBI Introduced Florida Shooter to “Informants”

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posted on Jun, 14 2016 @ 09:51 PM
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By Tony Cartalucci

It is now confirmed that in addition to two investigations and two interviews, Florida terror suspect Omar Mateen was also approached by “informants” working for the US Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) over a period of 10 months.
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Informants Posing as Handlers

The significance of this cannot be understated. “Informants” in this context, according to FBI affidavits regarding similar counterterrorism investigations, refers to individuals posing as members of terrorist organizations who approach suspects, coerce them into planning and preparing for terrorist attacks, before finally aiding the FBI in the suspects arrest before the attack is finally carried out.

Among the activities these informants carry out includes providing and training suspects in the use of real explosives, providing suspects with arsenals of weapons precisely like those used in the recent shooting in Orlando Florida, and encouraging suspects to adopt “radical ideology” over the course of the investigation. Suspects are given the false impression that they are working on behalf of terrorist organizations like Al Qaeda or the self-proclaimed “Islamic State,” often cultivating delusions of grandeur among otherwise mentally ill suspects.
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www.activistpost.com...

Apparently, and according to this website Mateen was approached by FBI informants. Such informants "would coerce suspected terrorists into planning and preparing terrorist attacks making them believe they were working for a terrorist organization."

I would understand the FBI trying to catch terrorists this way, but how did Mateen escape their radar? Some people claim he was crazy, but he seems like just another radical Muslim who had ill intent against Americans in general even though he was born in the U.S.

These informants would even train the suspected terrorists and "provide them with materials and weapons".

Some people are noticing that the FBI has also been concentrating mainly on "unstable individuals" but other real threats are escaping them.


Before Nightclub Shooting, FBI Pursued Questionable Florida “Terror” Suspects

Trevor Aaronson

June 12 2016, 2:54 p.m.

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The Miami FBI has not responded to a request to comment on whether it has investigated Mateen.

For more than a year ending in April — a time during which investigators will now be looking for any clues from Mateen that might have been missed — the FBI in Miami focused on a counterterrorism sting that targeted James Medina, a homeless man with mental problems.
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According to the FBI’s affidavit, the informant, not Medina, came up with the idea of crediting the planned attack to the Islamic State.

“You can do all that,” Medina told the informant. “Yeah, we can print up or something and make it look like it’s ISIS here in America. Just like that.”

Nearly a year before Medina’s arrest, the FBI’s Miami office arrested another supposed terrorist, 23-year-old Cuban-American Harlem Suarez, also known as Almlak Benitez, whom former co-workers described as “a little slow.” The government alleged that Suarez conspired with an FBI informant to bomb a beach in Key West in support of the Islamic State. The FBI provided a fake backpack bomb.

Does the FBIs focus on men like Medina and Suarez — questionable targets of questionable mental fitness — prevent agents from identifying and investigating armed and dangerous men like the one behind what is now Americas worst mass shooting?

It’s a question the FBI, which has faced little congressional scrutiny over its counterterrorism program, has never been forced to answer.
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theintercept.com...

This is starting to sound more and more like an offshot, but terrible event induced by some people within the government for their continual anti-gun campaign.

DHS ordered me to scrub records of Muslims with terror ties

Orlando mosque tied to case Hillary's State Dept scrubbed


edit on 14-6-2016 by ElectricUniverse because: correct comment.

edit on 14-6-2016 by ElectricUniverse because: correct link.



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posted on Jun, 14 2016 @ 09:57 PM
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Heads need to roll.

People need to get fired and government needs to be downsized.

i cant believe the humans on this planet are stupid enough to accept this version of reality as the truth
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posted on Jun, 14 2016 @ 10:09 PM
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Something is inherently screwed up here. Between the security company not following through with reports and the lapse of the FBI investigation into him. Something stinks.

Devil's Advocate will say gross negligence. Didn't think he would carry through but did?

There's a quote that goes something like this,

"If a terror attack happens it was allowed to happen."



posted on Jun, 14 2016 @ 10:15 PM
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If any joe shmo were to give someone explosives and train them how to use them and then gave them weapons as well and talked them into carrying out an attack, joe shmo would be in just as much trouble, and so should the FBI. Plain and simple if you FBI was involved in any way then all that blood is on their hands as well and should be held accountable. Instead of the double standard BS we get from them all the time.



posted on Jun, 14 2016 @ 10:21 PM
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I believe Mateen was missed by the FBI because they did not keep investigating him long enough likely because he was working for a government/military contractor.

But some other three letter agency took over from there for political reasons like to push gun control?
this is very close to what was done by the ATF with fast and Furious. (yes the ATF is a three letter agency) Make a problem much worse so that the government is forced to fix the problem.(gun control. gun bans)

A couple of undercover agents posing as terrorist types could have talked him into the attack.

I noted that he bought a AR look alike that was NEVER a military weapon the Sig Sauer MCX rifle is not a AR anymore then the apple operating system is windows OS.



posted on Jun, 14 2016 @ 10:23 PM
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I hope this brings up the debate.

Is it really worth it?

The way western government is financed, it probably works a little something like this:

-Terrorist threats are real. They scare people.
-Governments lobby for money and power.
-money needs results
-pressure on law enforcement
-Law enforcement get "results"
-Things spiral out of control
-People die

Does that about sum it up?
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posted on Jun, 14 2016 @ 10:24 PM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Ugh. Seriously? Another one?

Does the FBI ever catch any criminals that they haven't manufactured?

And now is there much remaining doubt that this incident has "agenda" stamped all over it?

Nothing is real. Strawberry fields forever.



posted on Jun, 14 2016 @ 10:26 PM
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We should tell Mr Obama about this
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posted on Jun, 14 2016 @ 10:32 PM
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originally posted by: JHumm
If any joe shmo were to give someone explosives and train them how to use them and then gave them weapons as well and talked them into carrying out an attack, joe shmo would be in just as much trouble, and so should the FBI. Plain and simple if you FBI was involved in any way then all that blood is on their hands as well and should be held accountable. Instead of the double standard BS we get from them all the time.


Nobody is going to be accountable. Government will back the FBI. Too much funding at stake and the FBI brings it home. 'TERRORIST PLOT FOILED' a coupke times a year keeps the gears greeced and this method usually works.

This will blow over, as sad as that sounds.



posted on Jun, 14 2016 @ 11:26 PM
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As soon as I read that the FBI had "interviewed" him, I immediately thought of this. It's what they do. Just like when they were caught red handed in '93 with the World Trade Center bombing. They are nothing compared to the evil CIA though.



posted on Jun, 15 2016 @ 12:12 AM
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I wouldn't doubt if this were true. Some of the people in the federal police agencies do things that make things worse. They play along and try to get criminally minded individuals to do something to get people higher up involved. This can lead on the person and actually fire them up and they do things that they would have never done sometimes.

Undercover operations go on occasionally that can do this. If they were better at it, maybe they would catch them before they accomplished the crime, but most times they get them after.

Most times, they just interview the person and go back and sit at their office and drink coffee and plan social events with their coworkers.
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posted on Jun, 15 2016 @ 01:02 AM
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a reply to: onequestion

Only thing that will happen is more threads on ats, more discussion blogs, more analysis by talking heads on news programs controlled by the same whom control the government, more slush funds, more advertisements.

This will die out eventually, like past similar circumstances..maybe a few 'probes' with 10s of 'redacted' pages.
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posted on Jun, 15 2016 @ 06:50 AM
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a reply to: visitedbythem

He'll learn about it on the news this morning....



posted on Jun, 15 2016 @ 08:45 AM
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Of course he was goaded by the FBI- they needed another mass shooting to fuel the inevitable confiscation of firearms nationwide. They won't stop pushing this agenda until they get what they want- and they're perfectly willing to wait another two generations until use die-hard believers of freedom are old and dying.

Pull some numbers on people 30 and younger who are willing to die for their freedom vs that same number twenty years ago.
The population goes up, but the fearmongering has been going on so long that the percentage of people who own and are willing to use firearms to defend their life goes down.

They will keep making it harder to get firearms, and once it's nearly impossible they'll keep making it harder to legally own them- which is something already in full swing where I live.

the FBI is just doing their job- pushing the agenda. The government needs to be stopped.



posted on Jun, 15 2016 @ 04:41 PM
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They are not going to wait another generation. Not even 10 years. President Obama doesn't have much time in the office, and they are not certain who will win. If they can't get Trump on their side, it is possible for Trump to undo at least some of the damage that President Obama has done alongside his administration. But then Trump would also have to fire everyone that Obama has given a seat of power. Trump won't be able to do that with Obama's Supreme Court appointees, and if Obama gets his way he will install another Supreme Court appointee which would give liberals 5 vs 4 conservatives.

But imo, either way the Obama administration will not wait. They will implement more "socialist" policies including banning firearms even if he has to do it without the approval of Congress. Obama has shown a willingness to bypass Congress, he doesn't care about the United States Constitution. His loyalty, as well as his thugs', is to the UN and the globalist plan. After all, Obama is a socialist/Marxist, and they don't care about Congress or the Senate. Socialists believe themselves to be the rulers of mankind, and after they do it for the good of the people in general. At least that's what they want everyone to believe... Even if they have to take away individual rights as long as "it's for the good of the collective".


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posted on Jun, 16 2016 @ 07:37 AM
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In my opinion they did nothing because he was an American born Muslim.......didn't want to stir the already stinking pot of shat that is Political Correctness in an election year. Pussies.



posted on Jun, 16 2016 @ 11:42 AM
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Yeah count me as another one that Orlando was the result of PC run amuck.

After all we can't offend anyone except law abiding American gun owners.

We are more dangerous that rebelliously motivated whack jobs out for blood.



posted on Jun, 16 2016 @ 12:22 PM
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originally posted by: ElectricUniverse

I would understand the FBI trying to catch terrorists this way, but how did Mateen escape their radar? Some people claim he was crazy, but he seems like just another radical Muslim who had ill intent against Americans in general even though he was born in the U.S.




There is a lot in this wacko to unpack...

He claimed to his co-workers that he had ties to Hezbollah...apparently ignorant of the fact that Hezbollah is a bitter enemy of ISIS.

He was gay..He had gay dating apps on his phone, he asked a fellow police academy student out..many people at the gay bar he attacked remember him attending that bar over a period of years.

he was crazy...His wife said he was bi-polar and violent.

So yes, he was Muslim and talked a lot of trash, bragging about terrorist connections, but the FBI determined that was likely just him trying to boast.

And yes he had some self-loathing going on...raging against himself for being gay..

I see no reason why he would need direction or network of support to do what he did???? It was horrific, but not sophisticated.

He pledged allegiance to ISIS via the 9-11 call, but this looks like lone wolf+wacko+some self hatred going on reconciling his closeted sexual preference with his religious views.



posted on Jun, 16 2016 @ 12:25 PM
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originally posted by: neo96
Yeah count me as another one that Orlando was the result of PC run amuck.

After all we can't offend anyone except law abiding American gun owners.



Curious...The GOP in Congress refused again this week to consider a bill that would allow background checks to reference the FBI's Terrorist Watch List.

Is that bill offensive to you?



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