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Elementary school classmate: Omar Mateen suspended for threatening shooting rampage

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posted on Jun, 15 2016 @ 08:19 AM
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a reply to: Boadicea

And, in a proactive posting, no, even if he was on the "no-fly list" they could not abridge his natural born citizens 2nd Amendment rights. There is currently no due-process in getting put on that list, therefore, no due process for removing a constitutional right. If that is desired, then the entire "no-fly" list process needs to be completely overhauled and have due process included, the ability to challenge that in court, and the ability to legally be removed, via court order, with reinstatement of all constitutional rights.

If we want to strip ANY United States citizen of their constitutionally protected rights, then we also need due process to make that happen. Anything less is unconstitutional and a knee-jerk (my emphasis on jerk) reaction.




posted on Jun, 15 2016 @ 08:36 AM
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a reply to: LadyGreenEyes

Thought you might want to see this too:

FBI dropped 2013 investigation into Orlando shooter—deciding his co-workers were anti-Muslim bigots

The money quote:


That’s right, the concerns and complaints of vigilant accusers were dismissed as the rantings of anti-Muslim bigots and Omar Mateen was free to go about his deadly business.


The agenda. The only Muslims they're protecting are the bad Muslims.... it sure doesn't protect anyone else. Exactly the opposite.



posted on Jun, 15 2016 @ 08:46 AM
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originally posted by: Krakatoa
a reply to: Boadicea

And, in a proactive posting, no, even if he was on the "no-fly list" they could not abridge his natural born citizens 2nd Amendment rights. There is currently no due-process in getting put on that list, therefore, no due process for removing a constitutional right. If that is desired, then the entire "no-fly" list process needs to be completely overhauled and have due process included, the ability to challenge that in court, and the ability to legally be removed, via court order, with reinstatement of all constitutional rights.

If we want to strip ANY United States citizen of their constitutionally protected rights, then we also need due process to make that happen. Anything less is unconstitutional and a knee-jerk (my emphasis on jerk) reaction.


Thank you for making that excellent point.

The complete and total absence of any due process even on the no-fly-list is very troubling to me, especially as the freedom to travel freely among the states is a recognized right. Civil Asset Forfeiture is another way we are penalized without due process.

And any time due process (and therefore accountability) is denied, abuse follows.



posted on Jun, 15 2016 @ 11:46 PM
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originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: LadyGreenEyes

Thought you might want to see this too:

FBI dropped 2013 investigation into Orlando shooter—deciding his co-workers were anti-Muslim bigots

The money quote:


That’s right, the concerns and complaints of vigilant accusers were dismissed as the rantings of anti-Muslim bigots and Omar Mateen was free to go about his deadly business.


The agenda. The only Muslims they're protecting are the bad Muslims.... it sure doesn't protect anyone else. Exactly the opposite.


Well, that figures. They must have been bigots, because, gee, he was completely safe and acceptable. The government should be held legally accountable for every death in a case like this.



posted on Jun, 16 2016 @ 12:14 AM
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originally posted by: BO XIAN

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It has NOT been their agenda to protect "the little people" for a lonnnnnnng time.


No, it hasn't, and we know why, and who is really behind all of this.



posted on Jun, 16 2016 @ 12:19 AM
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originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: LadyGreenEyes


Wow......two weeks, for that sort of threat???


Right???

Especially given his school was well aware of his bullying, as well his father's explicit condoning of that bullying, you'd think such threats would be taken seriously get him expelled permanently -- not simply suspended. And get him some downright intense counseling.

But as you said, that wouldn't fit the agenda... the politcally correct agenda... and probably so much more we don't even know.


You have to assume at some point that they want something bad to happen. That level of incompetence beggers belief.



posted on Jun, 16 2016 @ 08:05 AM
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You have to assume at some point that they want something bad to happen. That level of incompetence beggers belief.


Exactly. Mistakes happen... but we're not talking about honest mistakes... or honest people making them. And I really don't think we're talking "mistakes" or "incompetence" but something far more sinister.



posted on Jun, 16 2016 @ 05:15 PM
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originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: LadyGreenEyes


You have to assume at some point that they want something bad to happen. That level of incompetence beggers belief.


Exactly. Mistakes happen... but we're not talking about honest mistakes... or honest people making them. And I really don't think we're talking "mistakes" or "incompetence" but something far more sinister.


I quite agree. Something very sinister, and very elaborate, and very long-planned.

Most people don't even want to consider such things.



posted on Jun, 16 2016 @ 05:55 PM
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a reply to: LadyGreenEyes

Sinister indeed.

And speaking of which, have you checked out this ATS thread about the confirmed actor who admitted to blocking the door and not letting other patrons out of the club? Lots of things that make you go hmmmm...



posted on Jun, 16 2016 @ 10:31 PM
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originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: LadyGreenEyes

Sinister indeed.

And speaking of which, have you checked out this ATS thread about the confirmed actor who admitted to blocking the door and not letting other patrons out of the club? Lots of things that make you go hmmmm...


I saw that.......and he's an actor.......what are the odds?

One more layer to the onion.



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