Trump: Americans Who Don’t Report Their Suspicious Neighbors Should Be ‘Brought To Justice’

originally posted by: HoldMyBeer
a reply to: Mandroid7

Well Man dude, he's said it before so, it's not a misspeak.

thehill.com...

Ugh, he sure did in that speech.

He also made a statement at one point about increasing cell spying against Americans.

I don't know, what options do we have now?

a reply to: burntheships

How is it Orwellian to ask people to say something if they see suspicious activity? It's like the airport announcement to not take a package and hold it for someone else, etc. If your neighbor who is not a former shows up with a rented van full of fertilizer after railing against the government or some group or other, it's a good idea to say something.

If your neighbor convinced you he's taking to a friend's farm and you hear later that it was used as a bomb, should you be punished through the courts?

See Something Say Something is not fun to think about and it's annoying at the airport too, however, the scary part is to say people should be punished if it turns out they didn't report something.

That's where the line gets crossed.

a reply to: HoldMyBeer

A man who claimed to be friends with this neighbor said she did not report the packages and the behavior to authorities because she “didn’t want to do any kind of racial profiling.”

In Trump’s America, however, that woman would face serious consequences. “We need to make sure every single person involved in this plan, including anyone who knew something, but didn’t tell us, is brought to justice,” Trump said in New Hampshire. “These people need to have consequences, big consequences.”

I see where America is headed right now.

Germany did the very same thing during the rise of Hitler! And history taught us how that worked out, thousands of Germans were executed alone with the Jews.

a reply to: AboveBoard

What if they saw it but didn't think it was suspicious? Will they be punished too? It's a bat-# crazy rabbit hole.

Wasn't this tactic used in the past already?

Look out for those commies, they could be your neighbor.
If you see something...yadayada

We need to keep fear alive

It is this kind of thinking that turns a nation against itself, neighbor suspicious of neighbor out of fear of being prosecuted by the authorities. Every home shopper will be on a list after their weekly Amazon shipment comes in. It seems the motto of the modern times is fear. Be afraid of your neighbor, be afraid to go outside, be afraid of speaking your mind and having your own thoughts. By all means, if you see something shady and suspicious, report it, but if this is a mandate that all American's must do out of fear for their freedom, false reports by the hundreds of thousands will be called in. It would be a great success for the surveillance state, to turn American against American and have them doing their job by surveying each other. This is some serious 1984 business.

a reply to: HoldMyBeer

Exactly!!

People here like to talk about slippery slopes on all sorts of topics but somehow there's a bunch of folks wearing rose colored glasses with "Make AmericaGreat Again" plastered across them so they just don't see where this could lead.

What if someone thinks their neighbor's gun collection is suspicious? And he posts on this weird conspiracy site... Yeah, better call it in!!!

originally posted by: AboveBoard


See Something Say Something is not fun to think about and it's annoying at the airport too, however, the scary part is to say people should be punished if it turns out they didn't report something.

That's where the line gets crossed.

I would agree, all it would be to find out would be to take a look
at my posting history.

Yet, this has been a slogan and campaign on DHS for a long time now.
Even the director of the FBI recently said the same thing.

In this case, the gunman was known since High School to be
cheering at the 9/11 terrorist attacks...so that is quite a long
history. Even at that, he bought a gun without restriction.

a reply to: burntheships

Sorry, I misunderstood your POV.

originally posted by: MrThortan
It is this kind of thinking that turns a nation against itself, neighbor suspicious of neighbor out of fear of being prosecuted by the authorities. Every home shopper will be on a list after their weekly Amazon shipment comes in. It seems the motto of the modern times is fear. Be afraid of your neighbor, be afraid to go outside, be afraid of speaking your mind and having your own thoughts. By all means, if you see something shady and suspicious, report it, but if this is a mandate that all American's must do out of fear for their freedom, false reports by the hundreds of thousands will be called in. It would be a great success for the surveillance state, to turn American against American and have them doing their job by surveying each other. This is some serious 1984 business.

This will be our conditioning prior to the release of the google super AI, that will locate any dissenters real time on the massive surveillance grid, while it searches for bad keywords stored in Utah, from years ago.

Anything you say can and will be held against you.

Hell, then they just have to push the big red tyranny button

Can't even believe what I'm reading here on ATS. Man, how the worm has turned. This may seriously be the worst case of mass mental illness in recorded history,,,that people defend and applaud anything this man says.

Enter the way-back machine and see what many people here were saying about exactly this thing, oh, about 14-15 years ago. Just surreal. I think CERN really has twisted reality. Probably some of the very same people cheering for it now because...what...this man says it.

Just. No.

originally posted by: AboveBoard
a reply to: burntheships

Sorry, I misunderstood your POV.

Thank you!

originally posted by: AboveBoard
a reply to: HoldMyBeer

Exactly!!

People here like to talk about slippery slopes on all sorts of topics but somehow there's a bunch of folks wearing rose colored glasses with "Make AmericaGreat Again" plastered across them so they just don't see where this could lead.

What if someone thinks their neighbor's gun collection is suspicious? And he posts on this weird conspiracy site... Yeah, better call it in!!!

Nah, Im.not at all good with this spy on your neighbor stuff. Its one thing if someone happens to see something obvious but this is crazy. As someone else just posted though, what are pur choices? Clinton is less vocal about it but shes a surveillance state person too, have no doubt. Obama has been the biggest to date. And id like to retain all the bill of rights. What a mess. Borders do need to be secured and there is a problem with parts of Islam, but hold up Trumpo, im not signing on for a second edition 1984.

a reply to: HoldMyBeer

This is just more lame MSM propaganda that is skewing his meaning.... We already as Americans report suspicious people when we see something or someone who looks like they are planning to do something bad.... People do that every single day. You should listen to police radio with a scanner in a big city like Chicago.....

It's how 911 dispatchers receive tips on crimes about to happen or are happening!

a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed


There's no skewing it, he said it. And he said more than just "See something, say something." He said bring people who fail to do that to "justice".

a reply to: Sremmos80

You ask that like a person who's seen something. O_o

Did he say children should report their parents too?

Just wondering.

a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed

All true. But we do not currently punish people who for whatever reason did not report something.

You can say that's not what he said, but it's what he said.

Seriously, if you heard that from Obama what would you say???

a reply to: Annee

Probably next week's talking point.

originally posted by: HoldMyBeer
a reply to: Annee

Probably next week's talking point.