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Trump: Americans Who Don’t Report Their Suspicious Neighbors Should Be ‘Brought To Justice’

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posted on Jun, 14 2016 @ 04:40 PM
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originally posted by: Ericthedoubter
a reply to: HoldMyBeer

Yellow Stars of David shall be handed out.

Is he an idiot?


yes, yes he is....he is following the lesson plan in Mein Kampf. I have a copy, and it is spelled out in there in very simple language




posted on Jun, 14 2016 @ 08:17 PM
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a reply to: HoldMyBeer

How about you excerpt within context, or you don't know what that is?... and this coming from the huff, no wonder... Lots of presumption in the part of some...

This is what he said


We need to know if he was affiliated with any radical Mosques or radical activists and what, if any, is their immigration status.

We need to know if he travelled anywhere, and who he travelled with.

We need to make sure every single last person involved in this plan – including anyone who knew something but didn't tell us – is brought to justice.

If it can be proven that somebody had information about any attack, and did not give this information to authorities, they must serve prison time.

America must do more – much more – to protect its citizens, especially people who are potential victims of crimes based on their backgrounds or sexual orientations.

It also means we must change our foreign policy.
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www.donaldjtrump.com...

He is referring about people who would have known something about the attack and didn't say anything about it.



posted on Jun, 14 2016 @ 08:21 PM
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a reply to: cuckooold

The Gestapo were national SOCIALISTS... They even implemented harsh penalties "to preserve the environment"... They also branded Jewish people as evil for murdering cows in their rituals... Only one side is known to do that...

You want to talk about the Gestapo?... Link them to socialists, and national socialists.
edit on 14-6-2016 by ElectricUniverse because: correct comment.



posted on Jun, 14 2016 @ 08:22 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen

But But But ...



"If You See Something, Say Something™"





you conveniently left out.....or the emperor will have your head !



posted on Jun, 14 2016 @ 08:29 PM
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In America the mindset had been driven by thugs with threats and coercion by 'snitches get stiches... I believe Trump is trying to break that intimidation mindset. And it should be broken for obvious reasons.



posted on Jun, 14 2016 @ 09:01 PM
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He's plenty American, I think the problem is people still believe life liberty and the pursuit of happiness is american. That went out with the gold standard..

Trump and Clinton? That is what it means to be American and what it has meant since at least WWII.
It seems to me that what Americans think of as america is really nothing more than what the media has been leading america to believe since the advent of the nuclear family. IT's not something that exists it's a shadow of what america is. A 2d representation of a 4d country missing all the depth that really describes what america is and what it represents.

I don't see any more validity in fighting for America then I see in fighting for a religion. A myth is a myth. And one created to subvert a population should rightly be ignored.

IMO America deserves trump and clinton, they epitomize what it means to be a liberal and conservative in this country. Neither fit the bill and both are what the masses crave. They are the brawndo in america's fight to quench the thirst of our sown seeds.



posted on Jun, 14 2016 @ 09:29 PM
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originally posted by: Plotus
In America the mindset had been driven by thugs with threats and coercion by 'snitches get stiches... I believe Trump is trying to break that intimidation mindset. And it should be broken for obvious reasons.


"Snitches get stitches" is by no means relegated to America. Try to "snitch" on the Mafiosa, Cammora, Latin American cartels, Yakuza, or any other crime ring and see what happens. I can guarantee you "witness protection" programs weren't created because of the Bloods and Crips. In fact, you can't even "snitch" against some global governments or law enforcement agencies without getting murdered in the process.
edit on 14-6-2016 by enlightenedservant because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 14 2016 @ 09:59 PM
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originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
a reply to: cuckooold

The Gestapo were national SOCIALISTS... They even implemented harsh penalties "to preserve the environment"... They also branded Jewish people as evil for murdering cows in their rituals... Only one side is known to do that...

You want to talk about the Gestapo?... Link them to socialists, and national socialists.


Oh no, not this "hitler was a socialist and nazism is a left wing ideology" bull # again.
Man you have been stating this for years now, and every time you do it people rip you a new one with arguments that even a 10 year old would have understood by now.



posted on Jun, 14 2016 @ 10:43 PM
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a reply to: ErrorErrorError

Exactly. They act like we can't look at any current Neo-Nazi group's website or newsletters and see that they're hardcore rightwingers. They're virtually always anti-immigrant, anti-Jew &/or Muslim, anti-Roma or Hispanic people (depending on which country's neonazis we're talking about), anti-LGBT, anti-liberal, and are pro-eugenics and ultra nationalist warhawks.

True socialism calls for all members of society to share in that society's wealth. Nazis only want their "accepted" demographics to share in any kind of social power, status, and wealth. Everyone else is an undesirable.
edit on 14-6-2016 by enlightenedservant because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 14 2016 @ 11:02 PM
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a reply to: Plotus

I asked a similar question to the one I'm about to ask you, and haven't got an answer yet...

So I'll try again.

What are these "obvious" reasons?



posted on Jun, 14 2016 @ 11:10 PM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Mateen's wife supposedly knew of his plans. If true, that makes her an aider and abetter. If Donald Trump were President, she'd be punished as such, if found guilty.



posted on Jun, 14 2016 @ 11:14 PM
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originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
a reply to: cuckooold

The Gestapo were national SOCIALISTS... They even implemented harsh penalties "to preserve the environment"... They also branded Jewish people as evil for murdering cows in their rituals... Only one side is known to do that...

You want to talk about the Gestapo?... Link them to socialists, and national socialists.


Sigh, not this again.

Your ignorance and extreme bias is showing once again.

disinfo.com...


Myth: Hitler was a leftist.

Fact: Nearly all of Hitler’s beliefs placed him on the far right.

Summary : Many conservatives accuse Hitler of being a leftist, on the grounds that his party was named “National Socialist.” But socialism requires worker ownership and control of the means of production. In Nazi Germany, private capitalist individuals owned the means of production, and they in turn were frequently controlled by the Nazi party and state. True socialism does not advocate such economic dictatorship — it can only be democratic. Hitler’s other political beliefs place him almost always on the far right. He advocated racism over racial tolerance, eugenics over freedom of reproduction, merit over equality, competition over cooperation, power politics and militarism over pacifism, dictatorship over democracy, capitalism over Marxism, realism over idealism, nationalism over internationalism, exclusiveness over inclusiveness, common sense over theory or science, pragmatism over principle, and even held friendly relations with the Church, even though he was an atheist.

edit on 14-6-2016 by cuckooold because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 14 2016 @ 11:38 PM
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Trump politically is a complete moron. I'm stunned so many folks here of all places, support this buffoon. He would be a nightmare if he were POTUS. I'm sure nothing bad could happen with a temperamental, thin-skinned bully with nuclear codes at his side 24/7 (which is literally how it goes).

His knowledge of foreign policy is laughable. On par with any normal American. Which is to say, minimal. Not a knock on Americans - people of all countries worry about their family, their laws, their country, and have little knowledge of foreign powers, names, associations, nuances. Someone running for POTUS should have quite a bit more knowledge - and Trump doesn't. I laughed when he stated he knew more about ISIS than U.S. Generals because he had a smart brain. Great stuff.. and supported here? Sad.

People talked about martial law and a police state under Obama, which was pretty far-fetched imo. With Trump, it would be the FIRST time I would actually consider it a possibility. And I have a feeling many here and in America would be ok with it. Sad times indeed.



posted on Jun, 15 2016 @ 12:05 AM
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a reply to: fleabit

Don't forget, a lot of people here want a police state, as long as it's clamping down on inner city neighborhoods, as long it's used to round up millions of undocumented workers, and as long as it's used to patrol and harass Muslim communities.

And then there are the people who are so scared of their own shadows that they accept every new authoritarian policy, as long as they think it will keep them "safe" and "secure".



posted on Jun, 15 2016 @ 02:02 AM
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Why couldnt Rand Paul have been the nominee, plain and simple?

Why does the right continue to nominate lame ducks.

Is it a conspiracy to keep the Dems in power forever?

Trump is getting scarier by the day.

Wonder what he would have done to the Bundy's...



posted on Jun, 15 2016 @ 02:07 AM
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a reply to: enlightenedservant




And then there are the people who are so scared of their own shadows that they accept every new authoritarian policy, as long as they think it will keep them "safe" and "secure".


I will cop some flack for this but it seems like mainly Americans wanting this tyranny, the fear sold over there is very strong....



posted on Jun, 15 2016 @ 02:52 AM
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originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: enlightenedservant




And then there are the people who are so scared of their own shadows that they accept every new authoritarian policy, as long as they think it will keep them "safe" and "secure".


I will cop some flack for this but it seems like mainly Americans wanting this tyranny, the fear sold over there is very strong....

Fear overrides logic. Kneejerk reactions do, as well. That's why it's so easy for many leaders to control their constituents. To stay in power, all they have to do is yell about a new or stereotypical bogeyman then claim they can "solve" the problem. Works almost every time.



posted on Jun, 15 2016 @ 06:10 AM
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And the federal government has been spying on its citizens for decades without warrants. So it looks like the Clintons, Bushes and Obama are far more guilty of paranoia and fascism, no?



posted on Jun, 15 2016 @ 06:41 AM
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Anyhow, this is not exactly a new idea from Trump...he's simply regurgitating old crap and relying on American's short-attention-spans and/or general ignorance about history, even recent history as this happened less than 15 years ago. He's preying on the same fears they preyed on then.

Here's what I couldn't remember the other day....


On Terror and Spying, Ashcroft Expands Reach

While the president has visited mosques to deliver a message of respect for Muslims, for instance, it was left to Mr. Ashcroft to orchestrate an unpopular program to register Middle Eastern immigrants. And after Mr. Bush last year announced that he wanted to enlist workers for a terrorist "tips" program, Mr. Ashcroft was dispatched to Capitol Hill to defend the unpopular idea.



Ashcroft’s Master Plan to Spy on Us
This newest John Ashcroft battle plan in the war on civil liberties would have us join the citizens of China, Cuba, Kazakhstan, and other countries where there is ubiquitous surveillance for signs of disloyalty to the state. Not only Joseph Stalin but also George Orwell would have understood what John Ashcroft had in mind. As The Boston Globe went on to say, "Ashcroft’s informant corps is a vile idea not merely because it violates civil liberties . . . or because it will sabotage genuine efforts to prevent terrorism by overloading law enforcement officials with irrelevant reports about Americans who have nothing to do with terrorists. Operation TIPS should be stopped because it is utterly anti-American." I was first alerted to Operation TIPS by Matt Olson in Isthmus, a lively alternative paper from Madison, Wisconsin. Then the May issue of The Progressive—a national monthly magazine also out of Madison—ran the full story by Bill Berkowitz, a regular contributor to Working Assets’



Some TIPS for John Ashcroft
That's right. The government wants your cable guy, meter reader, even your postman to voluntarily report any and all suspicious information about you to a new, central FBI database. It's called Operation TIPS, short for the Terrorism Information & Prevention System. The goal is to give millions of American truckers, letter carriers, train conductors, ship captains, and utility employees a formal way to report suspicious activity.



All you proclaimers of your rights who are supporting this because Trump said it and you want Trump? Well, again, you're kind of non-thinking hypocrites in my book. And yes, that's a judgement.
edit on 6/15/2016 by ~Lucidity because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 15 2016 @ 07:23 AM
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exactly, I guess the bundy's neighbors should be brought to justice, too. i'm sure there were quite a few who new about their plot that didn't speak up...




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