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False Flag Alert: Orlando Shooting

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posted on Jun, 14 2016 @ 10:46 PM

originally posted by: JuJuBee
When i was reading the text message, i'm thinking: what grown man still calls his mom: "Mommy"? Yo, "Mommy" is a word little kids use.

Could have been auto-fill. My phone drives me buts with that stuff.

I havent been following all the threads since the first day, but my browsing has noted anyone talking about him being gay himself. That comes off to me as a total clusterF from the narrative I was reading Sunday.
edit on 14-6-2016 by IgnoranceIsntBlisss because: (no reason given)

posted on Jun, 14 2016 @ 11:39 PM

The shooter conspired to murder untold numbers.

What do I win?

posted on Jun, 14 2016 @ 11:51 PM

originally posted by: JuJuBee

originally posted by: sputniksteve

originally posted by: JuJuBee

originally posted by: jimmyx
again....the title is a lie.....there is absolutely no evidence of this being a "false flag"......this is the 3rd title ...just today...that I discovered is a lie....hello, moderators

See, there's were YOUR WRONG.

There's actually NO PROOF of an actual shooting. No videos. No recording. But, lots of evidence of a staged event. Lots of evidence that False Flags DO occur and ARE OCCURRING. See if you can get how things operate.

A major with the Nazi SS admitted at the Nuremberg trials that – under orders from the chief of the Gestapo – he and some other Nazi operatives faked attacks on their own people and resources which they blamed on the Poles, to justify the invasion of Poland.

Nazi general Franz Halder also testified at the Nuremberg trials that Nazi leader Hermann Goering admitted to setting fire to the German parliament building in 1933, and then falsely blaming the communists for the arson.

Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev admitted in writing that the Soviet Union’s Red Army shelled the Russian village of Mainila in 1939 – while blaming the attack on Finland – as a basis for launching the “Winter War” against Finland. Russian president Boris Yeltsin agreed that Russia had been the aggressor in the Winter War.

Now, tell me why this "event" should be treated any differently. It certainly does FIT an agenda. MANY, in fact:

Hate Muslims
Love Homosexuals
Gun Control

Convince me, as to how this "event" doesn't fit an agenda? Keep in mind, that it is "gay pride month". And, by the way, don't you know, "PRIDE COMES BEFORE DESTRUCTION"?

Nah bro that only happens in communist and fascist countries. People born outside the US innately have lower morals, ethics, and intelligence. Didn't know you know that all of our politicians were born in the US where they are inherently more moral and ethical and intelligent? Greatest country in the world where not only do the politicians and leaders disdain false flags and untruths they are literally incapable of producing a lie or false flag or immoral war due to there inherent goodness from being born in the geographical boundaries of the US of A. God himself came down and blessed this great land and people and in doing so confirmed our righteousness and pursuit of badassery.


The CIA admits that it hired Iranians in the 1950′s to pose as Communists and stage bombings in Iran in order to turn the country against its democratically-elected prime minister.

The NSA admits that it lied about what really happened in the Gulf of Tonkin incident in 1964 … manipulating data to make it look like North Vietnamese boats fired on a U.S. ship so as to create a false justification for the Vietnam war.

A U.S. Congressional committee admitted that – as part of its “Cointelpro” campaign – the FBI had used many provocateurs in the 1950s through 1970s to carry out violent acts and falsely blame them on political activists.

Although the FBI now admits that the 2001 anthrax attacks were carried out by one or more U.S. government scientists, a senior FBI official says that the FBI was actually told to blame the Anthrax attacks on Al Qaeda by White House officials (remember what the anthrax letters looked like). Government officials also confirm that the white House tried to link the anthrax to Iraq as a justification for regime change in that country.

Would you like a CHERRY ON TOP?

Similarly, the U.S. falsely blamed Iraq for playing a role in the 9/11 attacks – as shown by a memo from the defense secretary – as one of the main justifications for launching the Iraq war. Even after the 9/11 Commission admitted that there was no connection, Dick Cheney said that the evidence is “overwhelming” that al Qaeda had a relationship with Saddam Hussein’s regime, that Cheney “probably” had information unavailable to the Commission, and that the media was not ‘doing their homework’ in reporting such ties. Top U.S. government officials now admit that the Iraq war was really launched for oil … not 9/11 or weapons of mass destruction (despite previous “lone wolf” claims, many U.S. government officials now say that 9/11 was state-sponsored terror; but Iraq was not the state which backed the hijackers).

That was all sarcasm my dude. I'm sorry I didn't think I could make it more blatant. I must admit it was a pretty piece of writing though so I appreciate the quote either way.

posted on Jun, 15 2016 @ 08:59 AM
I'm a firm believer in False Flags but dude you're really reaching on this one and your sources are crap.

posted on Jun, 15 2016 @ 03:59 PM
a reply to: JuJuBee

These 'False Flag' cries are the only thing trying to deceive us. Maybe the OPs a shill for the NRA. Maybe the OPs post is a 'False Flag'. 49 people were killed in Orlando, FL, and many more injured, by a lone gunman. Nothing false about that.

posted on Jun, 15 2016 @ 06:26 PM

originally posted by: Mandroid7

"Watching you tube of ABC interviewing eye witness. His name was Luis Burbano. Looked up the name. Low and behold, the first hit was a IMDB sire. Luis is an actor with quite a few movies under his belt. Can we say crisis actor?"

It sure looks like him too, just saying'

posted on Jun, 15 2016 @ 06:32 PM
a reply to: JuJuBee

Here is a partial quote from one of your sources?

[involving the “Pulse” sodomite club in Orlando, Florida]

a "sodomite club" um this sounds a little dubious.

Why would a gay bar be called a "sodomite club" couldn't "straight"
bars be called Sodomite Clubs just as legitimately, since the practice
of sodomy among heterosexuals is pretty common.

Rhetorical question, but it makes me question your sources, and your motives.

Rebel 5

posted on Jun, 15 2016 @ 06:59 PM
a reply to: pale5218

He had a role in the 2009 movie "The Sacred".

Group of five students facing their sins in a swamp ocupied by the spirits of dead native Americans.

There was an image of him on the web in an FSU maroon shirt which made chills run up my spine.
The ghost of George Marsaglia come back to haunt..

posted on Jun, 15 2016 @ 07:28 PM
Again. Just cause he does acting doesn't mean crap. There are tons of talent agents in orlando. I have two and I'm not a crisis actor. Wtf, is wrong with some people with the lack of common sense. I've been coming to this site for 15 years and noticed some dumb stuff. But holy hell, lately it's out of control.

posted on Jun, 15 2016 @ 07:28 PM

edit on 15-6-2016 by Irishtruckie83 because: Double post

posted on Jun, 15 2016 @ 07:28 PM

edit on 15-6-2016 by Irishtruckie83 because: Double post

posted on Jun, 16 2016 @ 02:48 AM

originally posted by: MichiganSwampBuck
I have to appreciate JuJuBee's passion for false flags and the propaganda machine....

But it's more than a passion, it's a completely blinkered obsession.

I can fully understand that there are genuine false flags and other kinds of conspiracies, but there are an increasing number of people on the web who genuinely think EVERYTHING is a conspiracy; that's serious delusion and some people need help.

It's good to question the MSM, they only serve certain interests and help to keep those interests in power. Keeping a healthy skepticism and objectivity is what we should all be doing, looking at the facts, making our own minds up, but flagging every shooting as a conspiracy to get rid of the US second amendment, well c'mon, that's stretching the bounds of reality way too far.

More likely in this situation is that the US has been out there killing people around the world for so long with its allies that eventually there is blow-back and the sh1t hits the fan back on home territory. Even if this guy was not officially aligned with terrorists, there are plenty of mentally unstable people out there who will associate themselves with these morons and do something on their behalf, and that's partly what ISIS and others are counting on, spreading their ideas.

posted on Jun, 16 2016 @ 03:04 AM

originally posted by: crayzeed
I think you aught to look up what G4S is about.It aint a special military unit it's a private company that provides prisons, prisoner escort, money transfer security and low grade security for such things as pop concerts.
In the UK G4S are well known 2nd rate security firm. They do not undertake any military operations.

Appears to be clearly written with intent to downplay who and what G4S is and do. Downloaded another post on G4S in the last day so so off this website and in the files were several newspaper clippings some clearly many years old. The all painted a much more sinister picture of G4S than a simple harmless prison gard company.

Add there is a large number of posts bagging the OP within a short time of the OP being up, Dunno why but the through of paid people come into my head when I read the first half dozen or so posts.

posted on Jun, 16 2016 @ 05:17 AM
Found on Live Leak

Apparently Omar Mateen appeared in a documentary called "The Big Fix" whick is about the BP oil spill in 2010.

In the video he is a security guard who is interviewed by the film maker with a hidden camera.

Seems to have been confirmed by Sky News.


posted on Jun, 16 2016 @ 06:25 AM
Is there any footage of him approaching the club? What about anyone posting cell phone video from inside the club? Was anybody captured on film running from the club once the shooting started? Just questions.

posted on Jun, 16 2016 @ 06:36 AM

originally posted by: AgarthaSeed
Wow there's a lot of anger in this thread.

Look folks, this is a conspiracy theory site. It exists for the purpose of discussion. Anyone who is immediately dismissing the fact that this COULD have been a false flag sound very naive and stubborn.

No, Juju does not have much information about this particular event, but it did only happen very recently.

Asking mods to shut down a thread that suggests foul play is straight up stupid.


If you don't think the government and the powers that be are capable of conspiring against us and lying to us, then GTFO.

posted on Jun, 16 2016 @ 08:27 AM
a reply to: JuJuBee

And by the way: a "false flag event" is NOT a conspiracy. They are documented events that the government has ADMITTED TO.

I really don't get it.

Do you know what the word conspiracy means?

If false flags are admitted events and more than one person is involved then the people involved would have conspired to perform the false flag so they are in fact conspiracies.

There's a difference between denying ignorance and willfully being ignorant.

So why not simply pic up a dictionary and learn what words mean?

Not sure what your definition of ignorance is, though. Perhaps, you should try this one: Ignorant: TO BE UNIFORMED.

You mean like saying "And by the way: a "false flag event" is NOT a conspiracy. They are documented events that the government has ADMITTED TO."

You seem to be uniformed as what the word conspiracy means, hence using the definition you give, you are ignorant of the things you make claims about.

posted on Jun, 16 2016 @ 08:38 AM
a reply to: JuJuBee

I came to read the thoughts of people that aren't under the powers of hypnosis. This thread shows very few are under that power.

Yes, you certainly have shown the readers who one of the very few are.

Or was it simply an ignorant mistake on your part and you meant to say this thread shown very few who aren't instead of are under that power?

I agree that this thread has shown a very few (well one actually) who are.

posted on Jun, 16 2016 @ 10:13 AM
So a CIA cover-ops agent went to the shooter told him that he is Al-queda or whatever agent, befriended him and told him stories how muslim factions fight the western zionist/dominators/destructors/plotters for the good of all suffering people in Afrika, middle east and the world. Then seeing the agreement in ideology of the shooter the CIA agent gave him some guns, and blessed him to do whatever with them to repell the agents of evil(U.S.A politics). So the shooter did, he stood against what he beleived to be the lesser evil and killed 40-50 people thinking that he is fighting to save many more in the usurped by US world regions. Ofcourse the shooter was astrologically picked, so his psichology to be proned to do something like this. They have all the birth data of US citisens so CIA could pick exactly the right person and in key moments "moove" him to do what they want. It is basic manipulation done in sophisticated way. The media is shouting now how the islamic factions are terrorising the poor americans which simply is gonna give them more excuses to attack the places they need to attack for the various geo-political and occult reasons they have. in the end...



Stop fighting ATS mo***s about marginal isues

posted on Jun, 20 2016 @ 03:33 PM
a reply to: Irishtruckie83

Thank u!! I'm a firefighter/EMT here and I had many friends on this call as well. I also have friends and family that knew some of the victims. It's mind boggling how people that aren't even from here, nor having any knowledge of EMS operations can make such distasteful claims.

I don't ever comment, but this incident was very close to home and I couldn't stand to read some of the ridiculous things I've read without speaking up for these victims.

I literally had someone tell me I'm in on the charade, because I said I work for the fire dept here. LoL wtf?!
They even have videos showing that the victims are being carried TOWARDS Pulse, which somehow means they were "acting" and getting footage but forgot to walk the right way. But if they knew ORLANDO they would know that the way they are walking is TOWARDS the hospital. As if they couldn't have frantically run away from Pulse, only to be carried back BY it later to head to the hospital, which is in that direction.

And thanks for clarifying the protocol for us staging. A poster on IG actually said "where are all the ambulances and medics for this so called deadliest shooting massacre?! Why did they use so many different agencies?! What a hoax".

Face palm, face palm, face palm!!!

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