originally posted by: FlyingFox
originally posted by: namelesss
originally posted by: FlyingFox
Are humans inherently good or evil or neither?
No one is 'inherently' 'good' or 'evil'.
Like all 'value', like all 'beauty', like all 'meaning'; ALL 'good', and ALL 'evil', exists in the (vain judgmental) ego (imagination/thoughts) of the
"We don't see the world as it is, we see it as we are!"
That is fine, but
I love 'fine but's', but how about 'fine, AND's'? *__-
I left it to an esoteric standard to make the distinction between good and evil.
What 'esoteric standard'? What is that? There are no 'Universal definitions' of the terms. What is an 'esoteric standard', please? And how does it
refute the Truth that I offered?
Is there some 'esoteric standard' of 'beauty'? Of 'ugly'?
Google told me this, first off;
" intended for or likely to be understood by only a small number of people with a specialized knowledge or interest."
It appears that I have offered the 'esoteric standard', which isn't 'standard' at all!
The only 'distinction between the two lies in the Perspective (and vain judgmental imagination) of the beholder.
There is no evidence or logic in support of 'good' or 'evil', 'beauty' or 'ugly', being anywhere other than in the eye of the beholder!
Esoteric or otherwise.
In a way, we think there are there are absolutes of good and evil, but it's not as simple as it seems.
"I am no we!"
"I don' know no steenkin' we!"
What is simplistic is imagining that one can break open a rock and find something called 'value', or 'worth', or 'beauty'...
It's just elements; silicon, carbon, oxygen and a bit of iron for the 'color'... that exists in Our Mind!
ALL 'distinctions', all 'identity', all 'duality'... is imaginary!
Reality (ALL inclusive) is One!
Look at the example of infanticide. On one hand it is deplorable evil as agreed upon, a standard of evil in our culture.
A 'standard of evil', perhaps, to the insane who believe that 'evil' exists 'out there'.
That is ignorance.
Ignorance is the 'standard'!
What infanticide is, without the insane judgment, is murder, illegal!
We, as a group living in proximity, define our standards of behavior and, for those with no ethics, we codify our standards of behavior
(theoretically) into law!
The reason that such vain ('conditional') judgment was and is the 'original' and only 'sin' (consuming the forbidden 'fruit' = believing what you
think and feel, and manifesting it!) is because such sinsanity blinds the vain practitioner to unconditional Love!
It is a 'standard of behavior', perhaps, but I do not indulge in such vain judgments as 'good' and 'evil'!
The eye of unconditional Love NEVER sees 'good' and 'evil', it ALWAYS see the Beloved!
On the other hand, traditions of such things run throughout human history, but often for the stated reason, "for the good of...." the group, or
even for the benefit of the affected individual! How contradictory is that?
That infant that was just murdered, not only carried the only surviving gene that would mutate and wipe out 2/3 of the human race, but he would murder
millions with violence and warfare before the gene mutation manifested in his future wife!
That the gene pool was cleansed of his genes exactly when it was, allowed YOUR grandchildren to go to college and one of them cured cancer, wile all
learned to Love, and made the world a better place for us all!
THAT is why it is vain insanity to 'judge' others!
Recently, the atomic bombing twice of Japan is debated as "wrong" or somehow "evil". On the other hand, I would argue that Japan brought it on
Like the woman asked to be raped because she was not covered from head to toe?
Exact same thing!
Japan was RUNNING to the surrender table, especially after Russia joined and took Mongolia!
Japan was already pen in hand, on their knees!
That we nuked them, twice, for no more reason than our fcuking insane vengeance for having the raw nerve to attack God's Holy 'Murikkka in the first
WE do the atakkin' 'cause God Loves 'Murikkka!!
Lets keep the lie going (and it is a well known lie) that it was our Holy Bombing of the 'Evil Nips' (tm) that ended the war!
Shall we support the disgusting ignorance!
In a way, the best answer is maybe closer to the reply of nameless, that two wrongs do not make a right.
That's me! *__-
But three rights make a left...
And three lefts make a right!
Seven lefts also make a right, right?
Or are you left in the dark?