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Trump Wastes No Time Politicizing Orlando Massacre

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posted on Jun, 13 2016 @ 01:37 PM
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Why does it matter what Trump said? He is not the sitting POTUS. That is who we should be concerned with. His response to this is pretty easy to understand. The MSM, DNC, GOP and tons of people are calling him racist for calling on better measures to monitor Muslims including immigration and surveillance of mosques.

One Mosque creates to the first US suicide bomber to travel overseas to die and then another 'self radicalized' who just killed 49 people. There is a big issue here....Trump called it out. No one else will.

HIllary is calling for a weapons ban.
Obama lectured us again.

Trump 2016...




posted on Jun, 13 2016 @ 01:40 PM
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a reply to: matafuchs

This guy was under investigation by the FBI already, bought his guns legally, is a US citizen, and is most likely acting independently despite his claimed allegiance with ISIS. Heck even an off-duty police officer was present during the shooting and returning fire. What exactly more could have been done to prevent this?



posted on Jun, 13 2016 @ 01:42 PM
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For those who care, Trump is speaking live now on the Radical Islamic issue.



posted on Jun, 13 2016 @ 01:49 PM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t

He was interviewed by the FBI twice. They screwed up.

Now, did you know that he is also linked to a known FBI information who is a radicalized cleric? Again and HUGE check for he might be a bad Muslim.

He is not acting independently. He is following an ideology. It is called Islam.



posted on Jun, 13 2016 @ 01:51 PM
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a reply to: matafuchs

You didn't answer the question. What more should have been done to prevent this situation?



posted on Jun, 13 2016 @ 01:56 PM
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originally posted by: matafuchs
Why does it matter what Trump said? He is not the sitting POTUS.


Wow..you must be a great interviewer...why does it matter that this guy says?? He doesn't work here!...Lets hire him!



The MSM, DNC, GOP and tons of people are calling him racist for calling on better measures to monitor Muslims including immigration and surveillance of mosques.


This guy wasn't attending a radical mosque? I am not sure he was even attending mosque? and he was born in NYC and lived most of his life in Florida.

How is "banning all muslims from entering the united states!!" going to stop that?

Apart from being a mildly sociopathic egomaniac, Trump's assessment of the problem and suggested solutions are no where near reality...and that is what makes him not only stupid, but dangerous.



Trump called it out. No one else will.


Honestly...No..he didn't. He is completely clueless about the cause or the solution.
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posted on Jun, 13 2016 @ 02:20 PM
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Here's his speech from today.

Hillary has a lot to answer for.....

Speech starts at around 16:15

FULL Donald Trump Addresses The Nation With Anti-Terrorism Speech In New Hampshire Rally 6/13/16





posted on Jun, 13 2016 @ 02:26 PM
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a reply to: Indigo5

You are so misinformed it is truly incredible. The man killed in Orlando was at his mosque two days ago...Live in denial. What Trump said in his speech is correct. Islamic Terrorism needs to stop in the US.



posted on Jun, 13 2016 @ 02:48 PM
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originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: onequestion

If criticizing politicization is politicization, then you criticizing me for politicization for criticizing politicization is in fact, politicization.

This is what is known as an infinite regress or homunculus fallacy.

The answer to your question is "No."


Don't start spouting off fallacies out of misguided righteous indignation, when you routinely commit ad hominem attacks every other day. This is what we like to call hipocrasy.



posted on Jun, 13 2016 @ 02:48 PM
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I guess you ignored his official response giving his sympathy to the victims and their families first then addressing why this could have happened in the first place, which Obama refuses to admit it's an act of Islamic extremist terrorism. By refusing to do so and at the same time encouraging mass immigration from the Middle East of people who are NOT properly vetted Obama only increases the chances of such an event occurring again. Trump rightly calls it treason, which willfully endangering the American public is.

Blaming guns for Orlando is like blaming the WTC architects for all the people killed on 9/11. Pure ignorance. How he could purchase a gun after being twice investigated by the FBI seems a tad strange to me as well. But then it was the FBI who allowed real explosives to be placed in the WTC back in '93. I don't know who Obama or our intelligence agencies work for but often it's not the America people. Over and over we have been betrayed and lives lost in their program to increase their power and destroy the United States.

I support Trump because he isn't afraid to call it like he sees it AND because he's not a politician, just a businessman who if afraid the country that gave him so much opportunity will not be there for his children to inherit. He's made his billions and knowing this may be the last thing he attempts he is willing to put his life on the line to preserve his country. I respect that enormously.



posted on Jun, 13 2016 @ 02:52 PM
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a reply to: Asktheanimals

Question. What changes if you call this event "Islamic terrorism" or just "terrorism"?



posted on Jun, 13 2016 @ 03:03 PM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Asktheanimals

Question. What changes if you call this event "Islamic terrorism" or just "terrorism"?


Party lines will be broken down and everyone will understand that the biggest terrorist threat comes from within the islamic community. Muslim communities will be under more pressure to root out radical elements. In short, the victims will stop fighting with each other due to political differences. Perhaps businesses and the general public will be more comfortable reporting radical Muslims instead of being afraid of accusations of prejudice.


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posted on Jun, 13 2016 @ 03:03 PM
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a reply to: UKTruth

That sounds an awful lot like wishful thinking and not a reasoned account of what would actually happen.



posted on Jun, 13 2016 @ 03:10 PM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: UKTruth

That sounds an awful lot like wishful thinking and not a reasoned account of what would actually happen.


Maybe, but the only way I think this starts to get addressed is for politicians to come together and outline the clear and present danger from a faction of the Muslim community. You're probably right that politicians today just wont do it and are more interested in getting elected that saving lives. Actually identifying the issue and explaining it to people would be a good start though, even if they did not work together on the solutions.



posted on Jun, 13 2016 @ 03:11 PM
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a reply to: UKTruth

So you think antagonizing the moderate Muslim community further while enforcing our heavy handed revenge against radical Muslim is a "solution"?



posted on Jun, 13 2016 @ 03:19 PM
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Can we just have a general statement from the Trump supporters that they're willing to allow their hero to tread the Constitution underfoot?

That seems to be the requirement of anything resembling honesty at this point.



posted on Jun, 13 2016 @ 03:20 PM
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We are at war with Islam, the sooner the majority accepts that the better. And of course, you're looking at one (Obama) trying to convince the populous disarmament is in our best interests. Give me a break. How much sooner this tragedy would have ended if as Trump says "Bullets were going in the other direction" and how many lives would have been saved...



posted on Jun, 13 2016 @ 03:21 PM
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originally posted by: EyeKyu
We are at war with Islam, the sooner the majority accepts that the better. And of course, you're looking at one (Obama) trying to convince the populous disarmament is in our best interests. Give me a break. How much sooner this tragedy would have ended if as Trump says "Bullets were going in the other direction" and how many lives would have been saved...



You're at war with 1.8 Billion People in 57 countries.

I'm aware of the irony ... but THINK about that for a minute.
edit on 13-6-2016 by Gryphon66 because: Noted



posted on Jun, 13 2016 @ 03:26 PM
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I've noticed a trend on Twitter tonight of LGBT people and groups declaring their support for Trump now...



posted on Jun, 13 2016 @ 03:27 PM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: matafuchs

This guy was under investigation by the FBI already, bought his guns legally, is a US citizen, and is most likely acting independently despite his claimed allegiance with ISIS. Heck even an off-duty police officer was present during the shooting and returning fire. What exactly more could have been done to prevent this?


The acting independently line, even if true, is a smokescreen. It's a political game to try and deflect this away from terrorism because the left know that it helps Trump.

He claimed allegiance to ISIS. Radicalization of Muslims does not mean that one has to have meetings with terrorists.
ISIS have asked Muslims to commit these atrocities in their name and this murderer carried out their wishes.

As for stopping this - it's difficult, but...

His company could have reported him - a colleague resigned from the company because his warnings were ignored and he was scared of this individual. I don;t know why they didn't - maybe they were scared of being accused of islamaphobia.

His right to buy guns could have been revoked after his racist and extremist comments - which led to two FBI interviews.

He could have been forced to attend a series of interviews for a period of time to determine the depth of his radicalization - and jailed if he did not attend.

His family could have been drawn into the conversations - heck child support services seem to get very involved with extended families given the slightest evidence of child abuse, yet this murderer was allowed to walk around unmonitored and buy guns after not one, but two interviews with the FBI.

Monitoring needs to increase and more than anything else the Muslim community need to step forward - words are not enough.




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