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FBI Investigating Orlando Night Club Shootings as terrorist Attack, Obama Says

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posted on Jun, 12 2016 @ 02:37 PM
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originally posted by: Domo1
a reply to: SgtHamsandwich

Yes Reldra needs to check herheslf


I don't fully disagree, but tact goes along way with getting your point across without it being disappeared by a mod for a manners violation lol.




posted on Jun, 12 2016 @ 02:38 PM
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originally posted by: NightFlight

originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: Informer1958
a reply to: reldra


Now the government can move forth with their gun control agenda so we all can be unarmed and killed by terrorists.

If all Americans were armed I guaranteed, most of these people would be alive today.




You can't be serious. In a crowded nightclub, in low light and strobing lights, everyone armed would have made the death toll higher. Inability to see the target, ricochet.

Are you calling this a false flag to further an agenda?


Are you forgetting, rel, that the perp engaged a police officer who was acting as security for the club outside in front of the club. No reports have surfaced yet about the safety or condition of the officer, yet. If someone else had been armed during this, there maybe 49 less dead.


Or maybe 49 more dead. I know that it is a bad idea to have guns in bars. Guns in malls. Guns in schools. Especially guns in crowded places with low lighting and incredibly loud music.

We can add guns in movie theaters to that. There was at least 1 incident where confusion led to gunfire (there was no gunman, it was a teen youtuber setting off a firework or loud noise thing) and another where an older man shot someone over noise or something. Low lighting, connfusion, crowd= bad for your average citizen to gave a gun, especially a whole bunch.



posted on Jun, 12 2016 @ 02:40 PM
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originally posted by: Domo1
a reply to: SgtHamsandwich

Yes Reldra needs to check herheslf


For what? That is a term with no meaning that immature people with a chip on their shoulder use.



posted on Jun, 12 2016 @ 02:40 PM
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LISTEN UP!



That's ENOUGH!

Stay on topic (the OP is the topic, NOT OTHER MEMBERS!).

Keep it civil. Keep it clean.

Post bans are going to be handed out soon if you can not.

Do NOT reply to this post.



posted on Jun, 12 2016 @ 02:40 PM
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edit on 6/12/2016 by Zaphod58 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 12 2016 @ 02:41 PM
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a reply to: KingIcarus


Guns are cool, we really do get it - but it isn't Islamists or liberals that are your problem, it's people who think a loaded gun is something that should be in the bedside cabinet drawer or glove compartment.


I agree.

However I do not trust my government since they brought this war to our country and countries around the globe.

I believe there is a bigger agenda that is at play, that will implement NWO.



posted on Jun, 12 2016 @ 02:42 PM
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originally posted by: Willtell


what happens when they get a nuke?




And what if they do?

A total of nine nations have or are assumed to have nuclear weapons. They're incredibly complex weapon systems requiring a truly enormous amount of specialist knowledge to operate. We're not talking about a push button to detonate here.

At best they could pack nuclear material around a conventional bomb and detonate it as a dirty bomb - but that would render the target zone problematic for days at most by all conventional projections.

Stop worrying about things that don't exist. Deny ignorance.



posted on Jun, 12 2016 @ 02:45 PM
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originally posted by: Willtell

originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: Willtell

originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: Willtell
The irony is that Obama’s failure to act might help Trump win!


Trump soon will be all over the place saying


See. I told you so




To act how? please share your ideas.


Very simple, as I posted way back...

At the first sign of the ISIS victories, what now over a year ago....

Obama should have led....A WORLD COALITION OF AT LEAST 100,00,TROOPS INCLUDING ARAB AND SYRIAN TROOPS IN A MASSIVE EFFORT TO WIPE ISIS OFF THE FACE OF THE EARTH.


Now its only going to get worst or now the US might really overreact when they should have acted a long time ago big time




And how does he go about forcing this leadership plan upon the world? And how easy do you think it would be for him to get ground troops for this? You seem to have no idea about how all of this works.



It’s called diplomacy...ability to communicate and persuade others to the wisdom of destroying ISIS in a timely fashion.


Something the first Bush did in the first Iraqi war


It’s that Obama is just unqualified…he doesn’t have the capacity to do that


Its easy to order a drone to kill someone.

It takes wisdom, and diplomatic ability to form a coalition.

With ISIS murdering people all over the place it could have been easy at first…now its too late


We needed that Iraq war like a hole in the head.

The US certainly does have a coalition with other countries to attack ISIS.



posted on Jun, 12 2016 @ 02:46 PM
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a reply to: KingIcarus

You don’t know the mentality of religious fanatics.

If you did you’d feel different, believe me.

I think it would be foolish not to think about that

and in-fact Obama himself mentioned that he was worried about



posted on Jun, 12 2016 @ 02:47 PM
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originally posted by: Willtell
a reply to: KingIcarus

You don’t know the mentality of religious fanatics.

If you did you’d feel different, believe me.

I think it would be foolish not to think about that

and in-fact Obama himself mentioned that he was worried about




I think most of us are aware of the mentality of religious fanatics. Including the poster you directed that towards.



posted on Jun, 12 2016 @ 02:50 PM
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a reply to: reldra


That coalition is a fraud


Look there are unjust wars, the Iraq invasion of 2003(the original sin)

and just wars: WWII…Civil War

And a war against ISIS would be a just war and with the proper resources a quick war

but like I said its water over the bridge now



posted on Jun, 12 2016 @ 02:52 PM
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So, the point is, that the FBI is investigating this atrocity as a Terrorist Attack. Obama noted that they were doing so and noted the event as terrorism and that all resources would be available to them and related law enforcement agancies.

It is also true, that the US, in cooperation with other countries, have been bombing ISIS to death overseas.

I am not sure where the unrelated issues are arising from.

It appears that the US government has done what they can do.
edit on 12-6-2016 by reldra because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 12 2016 @ 02:58 PM
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originally posted by: Informer1958
a reply to: KingIcarus


Guns are cool, we really do get it - but it isn't Islamists or liberals that are your problem, it's people who think a loaded gun is something that should be in the bedside cabinet drawer or glove compartment.


I agree.

However I do not trust my government since they brought this war to our country and countries around the globe.

I believe there is a bigger agenda that is at play, that will implement NWO.


Interesting point, in my opinion. I disagree, but I don't think your opinion is without value.

The West (American and the UK included) have made major mistakes. I'd probably reject your theory myself though.



posted on Jun, 12 2016 @ 02:59 PM
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a reply to: reldra

I know you are blind to owning firearms, but what part of "outside" did you not understand?



posted on Jun, 12 2016 @ 03:07 PM
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originally posted by: Willtell
a reply to: KingIcarus

You don’t know the mentality of religious fanatics.

If you did you’d feel different, believe me.

I think it would be foolish not to think about that

and in-fact Obama himself mentioned that he was worried about




Good post, but I'm not sure what makes you think you know the mentality of fanatics better than anyone else.

Islamic fundamentalism is clearly a point of concern, but if today's violence is interpreted as such (which I think is fair at this point), I don't see how it's any better or worse than the countless gun attrocities that take place in America day in, day out.

This is seemingly the worst attrocity of modern or even all time, but the 'score' is irrelevant really. If someone wants to kill people, being able to legally buy an automatic weapon makes that much, much easier. Thousands of Americans die in mass gun violence every single year, so the motivation means nothing. It might be Islam this week, it might be a creepy virgin next week - a dude who got fired the week after, etc etc etc.



posted on Jun, 12 2016 @ 03:09 PM
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originally posted by: kaylaluv
So he said the word terrorist? So much for the predictions that he wouldn't.

He did not say ISLAMIC Terrorist.



posted on Jun, 12 2016 @ 03:44 PM
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You seem to have no trouble forgetting crazy speeches from people like Trump. Palin, Bacchman, Carson...
a reply to: reldra

None of these people have been the POTUS for 7.5 years, or been POTUS at all. Just sayin'...



posted on Jun, 12 2016 @ 03:54 PM
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Really, they're investigating now.

How about the 3 times they interviewed the suspect, while he was on their terrorist watch list?

Maybe a little prevention was called for.

Or maybe you don't let someone on a terrorist watch list, interviewed 3 times by the FBI a position in a security firm with clearances and weapons.

Just thinking out of the box here apparently.

www.zerohedge.com...
Orlando Killer Worked For Company Transporting Illegal Immigrants Inside US; Was Interviewed By FBI 3 Times



posted on Jun, 12 2016 @ 03:57 PM
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originally posted by: Unity_99
Really, they're investigating now.

How about the 3 times they interviewed the suspect, while he was on their terrorist watch list?

Maybe a little prevention was called for.

Or maybe you don't let someone on a terrorist watch list, interviewed 3 times by the FBI a position in a security firm with clearances and weapons.

Just thinking out of the box here apparently.

www.zerohedge.com...
Orlando Killer Worked For Company Transporting Illegal Immigrants Inside US; Was Interviewed By FBI 3 Times


When I hear of things like this, I have to think there is no other answer than either ineptness or infiltration in the upper tier of these agencies.



posted on Jun, 12 2016 @ 04:03 PM
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originally posted by: reldra
So, the point is, that the FBI is investigating this atrocity as a Terrorist Attack. Obama noted that they were doing so and noted the event as terrorism and that all resources would be available to them and related law enforcement agancies.



And they did all that *after* the last attack.

And they will do it again *after* the next one.

loads of cognitive dissonance.




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